On July 16 2012 06:25 PhothreeniX wrote:
BitterDam = Finals
You heard it here first!
BitterDam = Finals
You heard it here first!
i think we knew that for the last couple of hours lol
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
July 15 2012 21:26 GMT
#1821
On July 16 2012 06:25 PhothreeniX wrote: BitterDam = Finals You heard it here first! i think we knew that for the last couple of hours lol | ||
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Toadvine
Poland2234 Posts
July 15 2012 21:26 GMT
#1822
On July 16 2012 06:22 Derrida wrote: I don't really follow the Korean scene, but is MC single-handedly changing the PvZ metagame for toss? both in HSC and NASL, he has been consistently going 3-4 bases which is in stark contrast with his signature 2base all ins. Frankly, there are better macro PvZ players in Korea. Seed, for instance, plays lategame better than MC. The reason MC is considered to have top PvZ, is because he's so versatile, and good at everything he does. I don't think there's any other Protoss who can play so many different styles so well. | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
July 15 2012 21:26 GMT
#1823
On July 16 2012 06:25 Oldfool wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2012 06:22 TheProphet_ wrote: On July 16 2012 06:20 Jacobs Ladder wrote: On July 16 2012 06:19 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: ret's micro is horrible In all fairness, very few Zergs have good micro (by that I mean Stephano and DRG) and anyone's micro looks bad next to MC's top 1 control. Oh please, when the first big attack came he placed lousy 3 forcefields when he had 6 sentries and just let the zerglings walk in first and take all of them out, barely even kited the immortals. He lost because he was rallying all his bases to his opponent third and a moving into a cannon plus stalker concave, i dont think he was even looking at the battle for like 3 minutes He got surrounded cause lings are so fast and he was at that exact moment saving 10+ stalkers from lings outside the front of his base, which he needed to blink at that moment. At no point did MC even attempt to micro his immortals, his blink micro was also not that good, this level of play wouldn't get through the code A qualifiers round 1. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
July 15 2012 21:27 GMT
#1824
DRG looked sloppy in his games too vs nani though maybe MC is playing bad to throw off DRG? | ||
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TheProphet_
51 Posts
July 15 2012 21:27 GMT
#1825
On July 16 2012 06:25 Oldfool wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2012 06:22 TheProphet_ wrote: On July 16 2012 06:20 Jacobs Ladder wrote: On July 16 2012 06:19 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: ret's micro is horrible In all fairness, very few Zergs have good micro (by that I mean Stephano and DRG) and anyone's micro looks bad next to MC's top 1 control. Oh please, when the first big attack came he placed lousy 3 forcefields when he had 6 sentries and just let the zerglings walk in first and take all of them out, barely even kited the immortals. He lost because he was rallying all his bases to his opponent third and a moving into a cannon plus stalker concave, i dont think he was even looking at the battle for like 3 minutes He got surrounded cause lings are so fast and he was at that exact moment saving 10+ stalkers from lings outside the front of his base, which he needed to blink at that moment. He is fast enough to have done that and at least saved some of the sentries, or at least throw more forcefields as the last ones died. He didn't bother, like he didnt bother trying to save his 3 colossi that were miscontroled and eaten by roaches, because he knew he could win the battle with just 1. The point is, MC knows ret isnt looking at the battles and microing, so he is barely even bothering to do it himself, and thats a bummer. | ||
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
July 15 2012 21:27 GMT
#1826
On July 16 2012 06:26 Toadvine wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2012 06:22 Derrida wrote: I don't really follow the Korean scene, but is MC single-handedly changing the PvZ metagame for toss? both in HSC and NASL, he has been consistently going 3-4 bases which is in stark contrast with his signature 2base all ins. Frankly, there are better macro PvZ players in Korea. Seed, for instance, plays lategame better than MC. The reason MC is considered to have top PvZ, is because he's so versatile, and good at everything he does. I don't think there's any other Protoss who can play so many different styles so well. plus MC has the best control of any protoss, so even if he does a dumb build, he can make it do more damage than anyone else with godly forcefields and blink | ||
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yeint
Estonia2329 Posts
July 15 2012 21:27 GMT
#1827
On July 16 2012 06:21 Dandy_Moustachu wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2012 06:20 Toadvine wrote: MC playing pretty bad, but Ret's so much worse, it's almost laughable. I think MC can just do whatever, and then win from behind anyway as Ret donates the game to him with awful engagement after awful engagement. What was pretty bad in MC's play ? Quite a lot of micro mistakes, getting sentries surrounded, move commanded immortals. Nothing big, but uncharacteristic for MC imo. | ||
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PhothreeniX
Canada161 Posts
July 15 2012 21:27 GMT
#1828
On July 16 2012 06:26 aRyuujin wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2012 06:25 PhothreeniX wrote: BitterDam = Finals You heard it here first! i think we knew that for the last couple of hours lol I meant first on that page dood | ||
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ZeratuLsc2
Canada426 Posts
July 15 2012 21:27 GMT
#1829
"Look at this AMAZING control!" | ||
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aruken
France348 Posts
July 15 2012 21:28 GMT
#1830
On July 16 2012 06:24 Schelim wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2012 06:22 aruken wrote: any chances inc/idra to cast the finals on an alternate stream maybe?? that would instantly become the main stream in terms of viewers though... oh wait nevermind, the power of day9. and...that would be a bad thing right? | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
July 15 2012 21:28 GMT
#1831
On July 16 2012 06:27 opterown wrote: i hope DRG doesn't stomp MC like this, looks sloppy DRG looked sloppy in his games too vs nani though maybe MC is playing bad to throw off DRG? I think he's playing styles he probably doesn't plan on using in the GSL so he doesnt give anything away leading up to the DRG matches | ||
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Orek
1665 Posts
July 15 2012 21:28 GMT
#1832
On July 16 2012 06:24 aRyuujin wrote: this pvz makes me scared for MC when he goes against DRG. There's no way drg will lose after being so much better rested and prepared Lately, MC uses more DT. This could be mind game vs DRG. | ||
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Prugelhugel
Austria637 Posts
July 15 2012 21:28 GMT
#1833
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Benjamin99
4176 Posts
July 15 2012 21:28 GMT
#1834
On July 16 2012 06:27 opterown wrote: i hope DRG doesn't stomp MC like this, looks sloppy DRG looked sloppy in his games too vs nani though maybe MC is playing bad to throw off DRG? So much money on the line? ofcourse not | ||
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Belha
Italy2850 Posts
July 15 2012 21:28 GMT
#1835
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Bojas
Netherlands2397 Posts
July 15 2012 21:28 GMT
#1836
On July 16 2012 06:28 Prugelhugel wrote: Oh, they are both getting blown by fans hiding in their cabins while playing. (No ambiguity intended) Hahahahahahahahaha well done sir, 5/5 | ||
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Fluffboll
Sweden516 Posts
July 15 2012 21:29 GMT
#1837
On July 16 2012 06:25 Oldfool wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2012 06:22 TheProphet_ wrote: On July 16 2012 06:20 Jacobs Ladder wrote: On July 16 2012 06:19 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: ret's micro is horrible In all fairness, very few Zergs have good micro (by that I mean Stephano and DRG) and anyone's micro looks bad next to MC's top 1 control. Oh please, when the first big attack came he placed lousy 3 forcefields when he had 6 sentries and just let the zerglings walk in first and take all of them out, barely even kited the immortals. He lost because he was rallying all his bases to his opponent third and a moving into a cannon plus stalker concave, i dont think he was even looking at the battle for like 3 minutes He got surrounded cause lings are so fast and he was at that exact moment saving 10+ stalkers from lings outside the front of his base, which he needed to blink at that moment. Not worth it to try and explain basic things to these people. They are not smart enough to understand anyway, it's just a waste of energy. Sit back and laugh at them instead, it will save you time and brighten your day. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
July 15 2012 21:29 GMT
#1838
On July 16 2012 06:28 Benjamin99 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2012 06:27 opterown wrote: i hope DRG doesn't stomp MC like this, looks sloppy DRG looked sloppy in his games too vs nani though maybe MC is playing bad to throw off DRG? So much money on the line? ofcourse not there's a lot more on the line for gsl, this is for 5k, gsl for potentially 50 lol | ||
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Toadvine
Poland2234 Posts
July 15 2012 21:29 GMT
#1839
On July 16 2012 06:26 mordk wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2012 06:24 aRyuujin wrote: this pvz makes me scared for MC when he goes against DRG. There's no way drg will lose after being so much better rested and prepared Yep, I'm worried for the same reason. DRG is better than Stephano, and the type of mistakes MC is making in NASL won't be let go by DRG, he'll just pounce on the opportunities and windows MC is leaving open. I dunno man, DRG looked very shaky against Naniwa, nearly lost from seemingly unlosable positions at least twice. | ||
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
July 15 2012 21:29 GMT
#1840
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