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On July 15 2012 10:43 iNviSible.yunO wrote:
Not sure if I am the first one to bring this up but...
alicia does look alot like Hiro Nakamura from the TVshow heroes.
But thats abot the only thing that makes me sad about the 2:0. Ret fiighting!! =)=) You can do it!
Great job so far!
good spot. That's a blast from the past...
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On July 15 2012 10:44 Kieofire wrote:Because this is day 1.
but aren't the finals the only thing left after this match? is that going to be tomorrow?
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On July 15 2012 10:42 KingRajesh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2012 10:41 Mozdk wrote:
Alicia close to flawless... Still can't beat those injects.
BAMBAMBAM 90 zerglings comming Flawless? lol no. He lost 3 HTs right before ret attacked to zerglings. He could have stormed for days.
Of course Ret continually a-moving infestors past the protoss army is a very minor mistake compared to losing 3 whole HT.
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On July 15 2012 10:42 KingRajesh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2012 10:41 Mozdk wrote:
Alicia close to flawless... Still can't beat those injects.
BAMBAMBAM 90 zerglings comming Flawless? lol no. He lost 3 HTs right before ret attacked to zerglings. He could have stormed for days.
yea 1 mistake.. while ret just keeps a-moving into forcefields all game, plus losing 6 infestors... and losing his expo..... and still wins??
You can't even tell me Ret is doing anything amazing. Both ret and stephano haven't even done anything other than macro ling/mutas or roaches/infestors/broods...... The Protoss' has been trying everything and zergs just laughs it off.
Boring games.
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On July 15 2012 10:44 Kieofire wrote:Because this is day 1.
I found that quite convincing.
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is day9 casting at the finals or just doing interviews?
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If I was a mod, I'd put a little note at the top saying "Anyone saying the phrase full foreigner after page 386 will receive a warning, repeat offenders will be banned".
And that's why I'm not a mod.
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On July 15 2012 10:43 theMiNUS wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2012 10:41 Devolved wrote:
Ret's macro was so amazing. Every time I looked at his mineral count he was at less than 200 with 4-5 bases. Just crazy. yea, i was pretty amazed too... to keep injecting with all that action going on... he truly is the macro master!
I dunno. I thought his multitasking was pretty lacking. Losing the Greater Spire for example.
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On July 15 2012 10:42 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2012 10:39 RoyAlex wrote:On July 15 2012 10:31 Musicus wrote:On July 15 2012 10:27 RoyAlex wrote:On July 15 2012 10:22 Housemd wrote:On July 15 2012 10:21 ajkayken wrote:
seems like this tournament has lag which effects protoss literally 50x as much as it effects zerg
all forcefields seem late this whole tournament. lag for protoss is horrible There's a referee right there. They can easily complain to them if anything was wrong. Wow, that's very interesting ! In EU I'm guessing the SC2 server park is in French, and dunno about US. But in Korea it's in Seoul, I think, atleast Morrow and other players was saying it was 0 ping. At anyrate, if it is like that. It could explain a little why EU & NA Zergs are doing fairly well, consider KR Zergs in GSL aren't doing so well against Toss. Well.. maybe.. interesting anyway. Just a mere 300-700ms delay on FF matters A LOT ! Apart from lags which is definetly no the case what makes you believe that the ping is bad? The situations where Protoss got completly surrounded they were just not looking imo. I don't believe they would play for that much money with a ping of half a second and I'm sure the players would've complained already. Yea I agree, many times Players just are busy doing something else and end up bungling everything when they are getting attacked and surrounded. But If you have ever tried playing and just testing some micro inside the map ediotor where you will have 0 ping, you will be suprised beyond your belif how much ping there actually is online in SC2. Thinking out load without having tested or anything: Ping definitely affects FF and stutter step M&M micro much more than anything Zerg has, Just having a 100-150ms can possible affect the overall DMG in M&M micro by something like 10-20% !! Well I was just thinking loudly here.. since i'm not a Pro player it does not affect my life and I don't base any decisions on this. And I don't writing in a Live thead matters that much so if I say something wrong I don't care, so I just speaking my mind loudly to see what other people might say. Just amusing myself here while i'm wathcing :D I think you forget that Toss has to look away to warp in units, which I really hate 
Zerg needs to look away at every base to inject, even when he's maxed, it's a fair game.
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On July 15 2012 10:42 brentsen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2012 10:41 IshinShishi wrote:
Training pays off in the end guys, just play 5000 games like Kas and eventually you will win a major tournament. Like Kas did?
And the two finalists (well Ret is a probable finalist by now) are rumored to not practice that much.
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I'm really enjoying this tournament thus far. Was a lit disappointed by the last seasons final but this time everything seems to be right. They have mostly good caster combos. The crowd is awsome. There is little downtime. The games are pretty entertaining (I just skipped the PvP). And foreigners are winning!
Good job NASL!
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On July 15 2012 10:41 GreyKnight wrote:Alicia didnt stop ret from droning he didnt even bother to attack when ret was playing that greedy
It's like 10 times harder to try to slow down Zerg's early game macro than it is to defend it nowadays; Queens + a few lings can pretty much defend against any early game pressure except maybe all ins. And that's why you see so many 2 base all-ins from P lately
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The salt in this thread is fucking hilarious.
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after seeing the response time from MC and Alicia...I think there's an internet issue b/c these forcefields are late and it's pretty unorthodox to see that happen to both of those players
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While I like the idea of an all foreigner final, zvz is much less exciting than pvz. MC / Stephano probably best series I've seen today.
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On July 15 2012 10:39 RoyAlex wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2012 10:31 Musicus wrote:On July 15 2012 10:27 RoyAlex wrote:On July 15 2012 10:22 Housemd wrote:On July 15 2012 10:21 ajkayken wrote:
seems like this tournament has lag which effects protoss literally 50x as much as it effects zerg
all forcefields seem late this whole tournament. lag for protoss is horrible There's a referee right there. They can easily complain to them if anything was wrong. Wow, that's very interesting ! In EU I'm guessing the SC2 server park is in French, and dunno about US. But in Korea it's in Seoul, I think, atleast Morrow and other players was saying it was 0 ping. At anyrate, if it is like that. It could explain a little why EU & NA Zergs are doing fairly well, consider KR Zergs in GSL aren't doing so well against Toss. Well.. maybe.. interesting anyway. Just a mere 300-700ms delay on FF matters A LOT ! Apart from lags which is definetly no the case what makes you believe that the ping is bad? The situations where Protoss got completly surrounded they were just not looking imo. I don't believe they would play for that much money with a ping of half a second and I'm sure the players would've complained already. Yea I agree, many times Players just are busy doing something else and end up bungling everything when they are getting attacked and surrounded. But If you have ever tried playing and just testing some micro inside the map ediotor where you will have 0 ping, you will be suprised beyond your belif how much ping there actually is online in SC2. Thinking out load without having tested or anything: Ping definitely affects FF and stutter step M&M micro much more than anything Zerg has, Just having a 100-150ms can possible affect the overall DMG in M&M micro by something like 10-20% !! Well I was just thinking loudly here.. since i'm not a Pro player it does not affect my life and I don't base any decisions on this. And I don't writing in a Live thead matters that much so if I say something wrong I don't care, so I just speaking my mind loudly to see what other people might say. Just amusing myself here while i'm wathcing :D
I agree that Protoss and Terran are more effected by ping, but the conditions at the venue should be just fine. I'd hope so at least :D
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Woah, Stephano beat Hero and MC? Damn...how did that happen? 
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On July 15 2012 10:44 xmungam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2012 10:44 Kieofire wrote:On July 15 2012 10:43 xmungam wrote:
lol why does it say day 1 ?? Because this is day 1. but aren't the finals the only thing left after this match? is that going to be tomorrow?
3rd place and grand finals are on day 2, yes.
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On July 15 2012 10:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2012 10:42 artosismermaid wrote:On July 15 2012 10:41 IshinShishi wrote:
Training pays off in the end guys, just play 5000 games like Kas and eventually you will win a major tournament. kas would be the best foreigner zerg ever He did beat Nerchio in the finals of that reverse race tournament 3-2 in zvt ^^
And that is actually pretty good, since nerchio was a sick random player back in the days.
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I feel strange cheering because I can't hear them. then again it feels more tense without sound.
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