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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
July 08 2012 12:02 GMT
#181
If you missed the karaoke yesterday here is the vod: http://de.twitch.tv/taketvpro/b/324032892

I don't recommend watching it if you are not drunk.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
July 08 2012 12:03 GMT
#182
On July 08 2012 19:29 Nerchio wrote:
I want Nerchio to win, i think he's quite good.


He is that good he deserves place in my signature :D
GL młody , you can do it !
SC 2 -LingsLover- EU -- Jaedong , NesTea , Nerchio , DRG , Moon , Oz , Tarson , Scarlett -- Dota 2 Pallad EU- NaVi - LGD
xarcatos
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany41 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 12:07:05
July 08 2012 12:06 GMT
#183
Well, since there is no Terran anymore, i should probably cheer for Hasu. Tho i guess i just won't watch it.
conz
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom163 Posts
July 08 2012 12:10 GMT
#184
Ah that bracket sucks for ret, rooting for him none the less. And what's up with the no terran comments everywhere, one tournament in 2 years where you don't have the majority. And after watching nearly all of this tournament terrans haven't been good enough simply put, and you could say that a side from Mvp who would of had trouble from a top8 diamond this tournament there was no terrans that have ever done really well in tournaments.

ret fighting!

User was warned for this post
TheRealDude: you were lucky you scouted
xarcatos
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany41 Posts
July 08 2012 12:11 GMT
#185
It's incredibly boring to watch. Except PvP.
Domus
Profile Joined March 2011
510 Posts
July 08 2012 12:12 GMT
#186
On July 08 2012 18:03 Deadlifter wrote:
I got to say it's awkward as hell to see the terrans at HSC complain that there are so few terrans left in the tourney. I mean come on.
There were 12 protoss, 13 zerg and only 7 terrans. Now lets look at who could realistically go really far in the tourney from each race:

Protoss: MC Socke Sase ToD MaNa Yonghwa and maybe bling.
Zerg: TLO Dimaga Ret Golden Sleep Nerchio and maybe idra/slivko.
Terran: MVP. Who is currently in a huge slump, and also lost to Naama..... TvT imba too? lol

Tell me ANY of the other terran players are on the same level as the above mentioned zergs and protosses please.


This is not a balance discussion though... In all recent tournaments terrans are less and less represented. There are no new terran players joining the pro scene, and we see terran less and less on a higher level (ro16/ro8). There are also pros switching away from terran. Do you think it is preferable that on a tournament level the game is slowly turning into a 2 race game?

For me, terran is just most fun to watch. They simply have to do more than the other races to be effective, like drops in multiple locations, continuous marine micro, it is just fun to see. What is the most complex thing you see from a ZvP? Durp, ling runby into the protoss natural while sitting back on creep...Or the infamous lets sit behind 10 spines while making infestor/broodlord. It is so static, boring, and passive that it is no fun to watch.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
July 08 2012 12:19 GMT
#187
On July 08 2012 21:12 Domus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 18:03 Deadlifter wrote:
I got to say it's awkward as hell to see the terrans at HSC complain that there are so few terrans left in the tourney. I mean come on.
There were 12 protoss, 13 zerg and only 7 terrans. Now lets look at who could realistically go really far in the tourney from each race:

Protoss: MC Socke Sase ToD MaNa Yonghwa and maybe bling.
Zerg: TLO Dimaga Ret Golden Sleep Nerchio and maybe idra/slivko.
Terran: MVP. Who is currently in a huge slump, and also lost to Naama..... TvT imba too? lol

Tell me ANY of the other terran players are on the same level as the above mentioned zergs and protosses please.


This is not a balance discussion though... In all recent tournaments terrans are less and less represented. There are no new terran players joining the pro scene, and we see terran less and less on a higher level (ro16/ro8). There are also pros switching away from terran. Do you think it is preferable that on a tournament level the game is slowly turning into a 2 race game?

For me, terran is just most fun to watch. They simply have to do more than the other races to be effective, like drops in multiple locations, continuous marine micro, it is just fun to see. What is the most complex thing you see from a ZvP? Durp, ling runby into the protoss natural while sitting back on creep...Or the infamous lets sit behind 10 spines while making infestor/broodlord. It is so static, boring, and passive that it is no fun to watch.

Nobody is switching away from Terran...
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
July 08 2012 12:21 GMT
#188
On July 08 2012 21:10 conz wrote:
Ah that bracket sucks for ret, rooting for him none the less. And what's up with the no terran comments everywhere, one tournament in 2 years where you don't have the majority. And after watching nearly all of this tournament terrans haven't been good enough simply put, and you could say that a side from Mvp who would of had trouble from a top8 diamond this tournament there was no terrans that have ever done really well in tournaments.

ret fighting!


2 years is pretty short, if it can fit in 20 days + Show Spoiler +
Dreamhack, ahem
.

I've started watching a lot less SC2 recently. Love what the tournament organizers are doing, but it's no fun to watch with no-one to learn from.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
July 08 2012 12:25 GMT
#189
Realised that there are no terrans in the ro8! Not surprised though, as this mirrors their plight in recent tournaments
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
July 08 2012 12:25 GMT
#190
Yonghwa
sLivko

Nerchio
MC

---------------

Yonghwa
MC

--------------

MC
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
July 08 2012 12:27 GMT
#191
On July 08 2012 21:19 ZAiNs wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 08 2012 21:12 Domus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 18:03 Deadlifter wrote:
I got to say it's awkward as hell to see the terrans at HSC complain that there are so few terrans left in the tourney. I mean come on.
There were 12 protoss, 13 zerg and only 7 terrans. Now lets look at who could realistically go really far in the tourney from each race:

Protoss: MC Socke Sase ToD MaNa Yonghwa and maybe bling.
Zerg: TLO Dimaga Ret Golden Sleep Nerchio and maybe idra/slivko.
Terran: MVP. Who is currently in a huge slump, and also lost to Naama..... TvT imba too? lol

Tell me ANY of the other terran players are on the same level as the above mentioned zergs and protosses please.


This is not a balance discussion though... In all recent tournaments terrans are less and less represented. There are no new terran players joining the pro scene, and we see terran less and less on a higher level (ro16/ro8). There are also pros switching away from terran. Do you think it is preferable that on a tournament level the game is slowly turning into a 2 race game?

For me, terran is just most fun to watch. They simply have to do more than the other races to be effective, like drops in multiple locations, continuous marine micro, it is just fun to see. What is the most complex thing you see from a ZvP? Durp, ling runby into the protoss natural while sitting back on creep...Or the infamous lets sit behind 10 spines while making infestor/broodlord. It is so static, boring, and passive that it is no fun to watch.

Nobody is switching away from Terran...

To be honest switching a race doesn't just mean to learn new hotkeys and builds.
You have to learn again all your matchups, the timings, your opponent timings, the exceptions and how to answer to particular opponents' style with your new race.

Mvp plays zerg incredibly well, I've seen it on the IM stream channel.
Still, it's not his race, it's not where he puts all of his efforts.
Also you don't want to rust because after a patch it would mean starting everything once again.
Example: most of the zergs complained about balance issues in the past ZvT.
If someone would have switched now they would all suicide since
a. No wins after the switch since they have to re-learn everything
b. the day you finally have done it, patch comes.
Your Opinion has been counted. Only 3 more Opinions needed for a reddit thread.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 08 2012 12:31 GMT
#192
On July 08 2012 21:25 KalWarkov wrote:
Yonghwa
sLivko

Nerchio
MC

---------------

Yonghwa
MC

--------------

MC

I'm gonna second this. I called out YongHwa as my champion this tourney, but in a PvP against MC... no
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
July 08 2012 12:33 GMT
#193
Reeeetje fighting!

Gogo!! Lets do this
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
conz
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom163 Posts
July 08 2012 12:34 GMT
#194
On July 08 2012 21:21 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 21:10 conz wrote:
Ah that bracket sucks for ret, rooting for him none the less. And what's up with the no terran comments everywhere, one tournament in 2 years where you don't have the majority. And after watching nearly all of this tournament terrans haven't been good enough simply put, and you could say that a side from Mvp who would of had trouble from a top8 diamond this tournament there was no terrans that have ever done really well in tournaments.

ret fighting!


2 years is pretty short, if it can fit in 20 days + Show Spoiler +
Dreamhack, ahem
.

I've started watching a lot less SC2 recently. Love what the tournament organizers are doing, but it's no fun to watch with no-one to learn from.


Ok point taken, I still feel this tournament I wouldn't have fancied any of terrans to win because they're not good enough. Aside from Mvp but he didn't show.
TheRealDude: you were lucky you scouted
Singularity
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden142 Posts
July 08 2012 12:35 GMT
#195
Woah they "day 3 impression video" was sick!
EnSky
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines1003 Posts
July 08 2012 12:37 GMT
#196
Dang! I'm rooting for MC and Ret. >.<
Kurato
Profile Joined June 2011
27 Posts
July 08 2012 12:39 GMT
#197
On July 08 2012 21:02 Musicus wrote:
If you missed the karaoke yesterday here is the vod: http://de.twitch.tv/taketvpro/b/324032892

I don't recommend watching it if you are not drunk.


That was brilliant :D
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 12:39:31
July 08 2012 12:39 GMT
#198
On July 08 2012 21:02 Musicus wrote:
If you missed the karaoke yesterday here is the vod: http://de.twitch.tv/taketvpro/b/324032892

I don't recommend watching it if you are not drunk.


Doesn't work for me T.T

edit: nvm works. thanks!
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Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 12:40:45
July 08 2012 12:40 GMT
#199
are the 1/4 games parallel (2 each) or all four after each other?
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
July 08 2012 12:42 GMT
#200
On July 08 2012 21:39 Derrida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 21:02 Musicus wrote:
If you missed the karaoke yesterday here is the vod: http://de.twitch.tv/taketvpro/b/324032892

I don't recommend watching it if you are not drunk.


Doesn't work for me T.T

edit: nvm works. thanks!


np, but yeah twitch is a bitch these days, needs a few tries maybe :D
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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