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Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
July 07 2012 21:40 GMT
#4041
MVP will just have to learn some new things and learn to how to react to how his opponent is playing just like MC does and then maybe he could also be at the finals of HSC. Maybe next time MVP, maybe next time.
luuk
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria386 Posts
July 07 2012 21:40 GMT
#4042
On July 08 2012 06:39 Talho wrote:
I think HSC is a bit to blame for the lack of terrans. Some people seem to be forgetting there were only 7 terrans in this tournament.

Check this list :
mvp, maana, goody, dbs, cloud, tarson, happy

who would you list for a sure top8 except mvp who played very bad.

The people left in Ro8 are mostly expected players. And I'm not saying there is or there isn't an imbalance in ZvT. I'm just saying please don't use this tourney as an example of imbalance when there were only 7 terrans out of 32 players and they weren't the best.

well, mkp was supposed to come, but didnt make it and got replaced by dbs.

wouldve been a save call for ro8 with mvp. (ye i know mvp didnt make it, but nobody wouldve thought of that)
Waywatcher
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands205 Posts
July 07 2012 21:40 GMT
#4043
On July 08 2012 06:37 TommyP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 06:34 InoyouS2 wrote:
I like at least how Zerg and Protoss players are acknowledging that Terran is broken atm, but some of the people just want to watch Starcraft become a 2-race RTS...


Terran is broken because Terran hasnt found new timings and strategies after the patch, give it a few months and it will be back to normal my man. The top tier terrans are still finding ways to win (GSL)


Well i think terran is a bit weak late game, but still it is indeed no where as bad as a lot of terrans are suggesting. I mean for this tournament MVP is just playing bad havent seen a single really good game of MVP that you see at GSL. And there are no other strong terrans (maybe happy, he had a chance to get in top 8), but thats it. So it isnt weird there is no terran left.
INNI
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden249 Posts
July 07 2012 21:41 GMT
#4044
On July 08 2012 06:39 Mabius wrote:
So is MVP out no matter what the result is from this match?


That's right. MVPs matchresults is 4-3 if he wins this, but 2 players in the group are 5-3
pepe08
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany566 Posts
July 07 2012 21:41 GMT
#4045
On July 08 2012 06:39 Talho wrote:
I think HSC is a bit to blame for the lack of terrans. Some people seem to be forgetting there were only 7 terrans in this tournament.

Check this list :
mvp, maana, goody, dbs, cloud, tarson, happy

who would you list for a sure top8 except mvp who played very bad.

The people left in Ro8 are mostly expected players. And I'm not saying there is or there isn't an imbalance in ZvT. I'm just saying please don't use this tourney as an example of imbalance when there were only 7 terrans out of 32 players and they weren't the best.


you blame the tourney that not more terrans got through quali, had time or in kas case didnt get visa? OO what is this?
and on your second point you are absolutly right. dont use this for balance whine...but its the internet there will always be whine
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
July 07 2012 21:41 GMT
#4046
On July 08 2012 06:38 artosismermaid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 06:37 TommyP wrote:
On July 08 2012 06:34 InoyouS2 wrote:
I like at least how Zerg and Protoss players are acknowledging that Terran is broken atm, but some of the people just want to watch Starcraft become a 2-race RTS...


Terran is broken because Terran hasnt found new timings and strategies after the patch, give it a few months and it will be back to normal my man. The top tier terrans are still finding ways to win (GSL)


ITT: a zerg or protoss who can finally win and doesn't want terran to own him again

And you can't count GSL as a source of standard games, people learn everything about their opponents : builds, scouting partners, preferred reactions to moves, etc, preparation counts a lot more than general strength.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
July 07 2012 21:41 GMT
#4047
On July 08 2012 06:39 PhoenixVoid wrote:
What a scrappy TvT. Such low economies at pretty late in the game.


Games like this are a lot more fun to watch than 12 minute 200/200 imo

I will miss TvT tomorrow
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
July 07 2012 21:41 GMT
#4048
On July 08 2012 06:39 Talho wrote:
I think HSC is a bit to blame for the lack of terrans. Some people seem to be forgetting there were only 7 terrans in this tournament.

Check this list :
mvp, maana, goody, dbs, cloud, tarson, happy

who would you list for a sure top8 except mvp who played very bad.

The people left in Ro8 are mostly expected players. And I'm not saying there is or there isn't an imbalance in ZvT. I'm just saying please don't use this tourney as an example of imbalance when there were only 7 terrans out of 32 players and they weren't the best.


yeah apart from MVP, the only one I could see in a ro8 is Happy. MaNa, ToD, Socke and SaSe are a lot better than the terrans who also missed out on ro8.
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
July 07 2012 21:41 GMT
#4049
This tournament was like a free money for MC fund more than anything @_@
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
pepe08
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany566 Posts
July 07 2012 21:41 GMT
#4050
On July 08 2012 06:40 Proseat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 06:37 pepe08 wrote:
are you sure the brackets are right? looks strange that groupplayers could meet in the semis again?

TaKe just said on the second stream that they haven't released the official bracket yet. SaSe and BlinG showed the supposed bracket on Liquipedia to him asking if it was correct. Someone just got overzealous there.


ah see Liquipedia to fast
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
July 07 2012 21:41 GMT
#4051
haha Tarson such a fanboy
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
HotGlueGun
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1409 Posts
July 07 2012 21:42 GMT
#4052
Tarson ahahahaha
Don't hoot with the Owls at night if you cant soar with the Eagles at dawn.
luuk
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria386 Posts
July 07 2012 21:42 GMT
#4053
"OF COURSE HE CAAAAN, HE IZ MVPPPPP" :p
Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
July 07 2012 21:42 GMT
#4054
Hahahah Tarson is amazing
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
July 07 2012 21:42 GMT
#4055
On July 08 2012 06:39 s3rp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 06:37 TommyP wrote:
On July 08 2012 06:34 InoyouS2 wrote:
I like at least how Zerg and Protoss players are acknowledging that Terran is broken atm, but some of the people just want to watch Starcraft become a 2-race RTS...


Terran is broken because Terran hasnt found new timings and strategies after the patch, give it a few months and it will be back to normal my man. The top tier terrans are still finding ways to win (GSL)


The Zerg are finding ways to lose not the Terrans ways to win. There are no timing that haven't been used and don't hit at a point the Zerg shouldn't have any units. Not to mention there's no way to stop creep anymore thanks to superqueens and superfast spreading.

Indeed, Zergs really shouldn't lose too much too any timings now. With the enhanced queen and easier scouting, the only reason they get killed by timings is pure greed.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Cook
Profile Joined May 2011
France130 Posts
July 07 2012 21:42 GMT
#4056
Tarson - "I don't have to tell you how marines are imbalanced"
Master_Blaster
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom269 Posts
July 07 2012 21:42 GMT
#4057
On July 08 2012 06:41 Hall0wed wrote:
This tournament was like a free money for MC fund more than anything @_@


He did promise to make more money than MVP this year so he is on the right track. TOO THE BAAANK!
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 21:43:20
July 07 2012 21:42 GMT
#4058
On July 08 2012 06:37 TommyP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 06:34 InoyouS2 wrote:
I like at least how Zerg and Protoss players are acknowledging that Terran is broken atm, but some of the people just want to watch Starcraft become a 2-race RTS...


Terran is broken because Terran hasnt found new timings and strategies after the patch, give it a few months and it will be back to normal my man. The top tier terrans are still finding ways to win (GSL)

GSL is not structured the same way as most of the tournaments. In GSL, playing against the player plays a significant role as well as the race setup. There are also race preference depending on culture, and terran has always been the popular race to go in Korea dated since back broodwar
INNI
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden249 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-07 21:42:49
July 07 2012 21:42 GMT
#4059
Ofcourze he can, he'z MVP!"

:lol
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
July 07 2012 21:43 GMT
#4060
HAAHAH Bitter just said he wants a marine nerf.. how does that make you terrans feel?
#TheOneTrueDong
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