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On July 08 2012 02:57 ohampatu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 02:56 andaylin wrote:On July 08 2012 02:53 Ammoth wrote:
Whats up with mvp today? :/ He's a better preparation GSL player. Basically opposite of MKP. MVP can play long tournies just fine. he absolutely smashed everything last year when he entered its not better preparation (he is out of GSL). Its that he is getting worse/not improving like others. The king is slowly falling
I know I replied to this already, but I feel I have to point out that he gets very little practice compared to other progamers because of his wrists. He's said in several interviews that a lot of days his wrists trouble him too much to practice at all. I don't think it's so much a case of him getting worse, as it is others are improving a lot and he can't keep up with the limited practice he gets.
That said, I'm an IM fanboy so I'm fairly biased and hopeful his wrists are the cause of his lack of dominance. :p
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On July 08 2012 03:04 Heavenlee wrote:
The whole "preparation player" thing is such a random excuse for anyone who does poorly outside of the GSL. As other people brought up, he's done fine in other tournaments in the past, and he's knocked out of this current GSL. Maybe that's applicable to Nestea but people do it for everyone who underperforms according to expectations.
You're clueless if you can't see that MVP/Nestea are both better preparation players. And as other have pointed out, MVP's wrists make him less suited for weekend tournaments.
On another note, DRG is a beast because he's good at both the MLG/GSL format.
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On July 08 2012 03:02 nath wrote:
i wish there was something listing whos currently casting. its one of my favorite things about hsc and because of work i drop in and out and never know exactly who the standin pros are...also i missed happy/dimaga :/
one of the guys is ukrainian though absed on mr.b, who is it?
Bly and DBS
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On July 08 2012 03:06 Arc1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 03:04 chipmonklord17 wrote:On July 08 2012 03:03 Olinim wrote:
naam vs ret on b stream casted by nerchio and who else? And Snute.
thank you, I assumed it was a terran (as generally they've stuck to having casters of each race) but knew he wasn't any of them
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CruiseR
Poland4014 Posts
I have a question: how are the 7/8 and 5/6 places determined? I'm curious since the reward for 7-8 and 5-6 is different, and there's no LB or anything that could determine if a player finished in any place other than 5-8.
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Golden is really not very good...
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On July 08 2012 03:04 lawwwl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 02:59 Fiasko wrote:On July 08 2012 02:56 SilSol wrote:On July 08 2012 02:54 Fiasko wrote:On July 08 2012 02:52 SilSol wrote:On July 08 2012 02:50 Fiasko wrote:On July 08 2012 02:46 SilSol wrote:On July 08 2012 02:45 Fiasko wrote:On July 08 2012 02:44 SilSol wrote:On July 08 2012 02:42 Fiasko wrote:
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"puttgarden"??? what do you mean?
And CHEERS :o) Everyone from southern sweden or wth even me travels to puttgarden from Trelleborg in sweden. http://www.border-shop.dk/ mostly to buy beer's so cheap it's insane. cheers ^_^ hahahaha ok! I didn´t know it :o) Wow seriously? Puttgarden is so famous in Sweden it's ridicioulus! We love Germany nonetheless Everybody in the hole world loves us!!! Last but not least the greece xD Thats the way it goes!!!! :D Just trolling :p yeah well i really like germany as a country! and i've been in many cities/villages the people is great there  We ARE friendly, but the most people have there bias of us :/ But ok.....no problem with that^^ Well everyone haven't visit germany yet so they can't make up stories that's not real so ;] I still love Dresden's local beer called "feldschlösschen" http://www.feldschlosschen.ch/de/00_check_01.php Best beer i've ever had in my entire life. And trust me i've had many different type of beers. Don´t know that beer!!! You drunk, Warsteiner, Veltins or the beer in Cologne? thats awesome :o) Germany has a lot of gooood beer but we dont have the best like budweiser or heineken If you think of the US budweiser than no. Heineken is also not so good imo. Czechoslovakian Budweiser is great. Germany has very many small Breweries. The big one like Warsteiner or Veltins are mostly just ok. Also I like the big variety of diferent type of beers. Actually I'm studying in Dresden right now. And I'm often drinking Feldschlösschen it is a good beer
I meant the Czechs beer :o)
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Austria24422 Posts
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On July 08 2012 02:59 Fiasko wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 02:56 SilSol wrote:On July 08 2012 02:54 Fiasko wrote:On July 08 2012 02:52 SilSol wrote:On July 08 2012 02:50 Fiasko wrote:On July 08 2012 02:46 SilSol wrote:On July 08 2012 02:45 Fiasko wrote:On July 08 2012 02:44 SilSol wrote:On July 08 2012 02:42 Fiasko wrote:On July 08 2012 02:41 SilSol wrote:
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Nah it's not that expensive lol ;] Some places you can get a beer for 1.5 €
Most places you have to pay like 3.5-4€ for a beer.
Germany has good prices for beers tho ;] *silsol loves puttgarden*
"puttgarden"??? what do you mean? And CHEERS :o) Everyone from southern sweden or wth even me travels to puttgarden from Trelleborg in sweden. http://www.border-shop.dk/ mostly to buy beer's so cheap it's insane. cheers ^_^ hahahaha ok! I didn´t know it :o) Wow seriously? Puttgarden is so famous in Sweden it's ridicioulus! We love Germany nonetheless Everybody in the hole world loves us!!! Last but not least the greece xD Thats the way it goes!!!! :D Just trolling :p yeah well i really like germany as a country! and i've been in many cities/villages the people is great there We ARE friendly, but the most people have there bias of us :/ But ok.....no problem with that^^ Well everyone haven't visit germany yet so they can't make up stories that's not real so ;] I still love Dresden's local beer called "feldschlösschen" http://www.feldschlosschen.ch/de/00_check_01.php Best beer i've ever had in my entire life. And trust me i've had many different type of beers. Don´t know that beer!!! You drunk, Warsteiner, Veltins or the beer in Cologne? thats awesome :o) Germany has a lot of gooood beer but we dont have the best like budweiser or heineken
Of course! Warsteiner i have a big glass that says Warsteiner on! lol I like those beers yes. Here in Sweden we have Heineken, budweiser.. I think Carlsberg Sort Guld here in sweden is the best beer or the millenium beer 
I've tasted many german beers and they are not bad at all!
You should try feldschlösschen best one ever made trust me. When you go to Dresden try that!
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On July 08 2012 03:06 LimitSEA wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 02:57 ohampatu wrote:On July 08 2012 02:56 andaylin wrote:On July 08 2012 02:53 Ammoth wrote:
Whats up with mvp today? :/ He's a better preparation GSL player. Basically opposite of MKP. MVP can play long tournies just fine. he absolutely smashed everything last year when he entered its not better preparation (he is out of GSL). Its that he is getting worse/not improving like others. The king is slowly falling I know I replied to this already, but I feel I have to point out that he gets very little practice compared to other progamers because of his wrists. He's said in several interviews that a lot of days his wrists trouble him too much to practice at all. I don't think it's so much a case of him getting worse, as it is others are improving a lot and he can't keep up with the limited practice he gets. That said, I'm an IM fanboy so I'm fairly biased and hopeful his wrists are the cause of his lack of dominance. :p
yea i made another post i wasn't for sure if you saw
its not that i dont think MVP's issues are his wrists. But he has started to complain about them every single interview. And every fanboy uses that excuse. I like players who take a loss and then say: my opponent was better
edit: that said, i still say MVP is a winner, he will continue winning till he doesn't want to, just cause he is MVP
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why didn't golden attack......
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On July 08 2012 03:04 ohampatu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 03:02 Ammoth wrote:On July 08 2012 03:00 ohampatu wrote:On July 08 2012 02:59 andaylin wrote:On July 08 2012 02:57 ohampatu wrote:On July 08 2012 02:56 andaylin wrote:On July 08 2012 02:53 Ammoth wrote:
Whats up with mvp today? :/ He's a better preparation GSL player. Basically opposite of MKP. MVP can play long tournies just fine. he absolutely smashed everything last year when he entered its not better preparation (he is out of GSL). Its that he is getting worse/not improving like others. The king is slowly falling Yes, but he is still a much better GSL player than the MLG/IPL format. oh i agree But i just hate that thats the reason people spout for him losing, especially when he is out of GSL right now as well. Its like we can say Nestea got worse, we can say MC got worse. But if somebody just says 'mvp is getting worse', the response is always 'hey now he is a preparation player'. Sometimes nestea seems more like a preparation player to me i think nestea and mvp both are. They are smart and they are winners. So they do better in GSL of course. Fighting 'unknowns' is more their weakness. I just wish when a player played bad, or slowly started to get worse, we said it. Instead we have bias for certain members of each race. Idk, regardless if mvp's wrists are causing his losses or not, its more manly to take the loss without a 'reason'. MVP always makes up 'reasons' (yes i know they are true) and his fans always make up reasons. I take my losses without stating a reason, my opponent played better Show nested quote +
The whole "preparation player" thing is such a random excuse for anyone who does poorly outside of the GSL. As other people brought up, he's done fine in other tournaments in the past, and he's knocked out of this current GSL. Maybe that's applicable to Nestea but people do it for everyone who underperforms according to expectations.
i agree mostly with this
Well, we also have people saying certain players have 'nerve' issues in GSL which is basically an excuse as well. At the end of the day, people will always have reasons as to why their favorite lost. This is not just sc2. You see people blaming refs in sports as well.
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On July 08 2012 03:06 Arc1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 03:04 chipmonklord17 wrote:On July 08 2012 03:03 Olinim wrote:
naam vs ret on b stream casted by nerchio and who else? And Snute.
JENS MOTHERFUCKING AASGAARD?!
SIGN ME THE FUCK UP
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oh yea i forgot about refs.
them fuckers
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On July 08 2012 03:07 ohampatu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 03:06 LimitSEA wrote:On July 08 2012 02:57 ohampatu wrote:On July 08 2012 02:56 andaylin wrote:On July 08 2012 02:53 Ammoth wrote:
Whats up with mvp today? :/ He's a better preparation GSL player. Basically opposite of MKP. MVP can play long tournies just fine. he absolutely smashed everything last year when he entered its not better preparation (he is out of GSL). Its that he is getting worse/not improving like others. The king is slowly falling I know I replied to this already, but I feel I have to point out that he gets very little practice compared to other progamers because of his wrists. He's said in several interviews that a lot of days his wrists trouble him too much to practice at all. I don't think it's so much a case of him getting worse, as it is others are improving a lot and he can't keep up with the limited practice he gets. That said, I'm an IM fanboy so I'm fairly biased and hopeful his wrists are the cause of his lack of dominance. :p yea i made another post i wasn't for sure if you saw its not that i dont think MVP's issues are his wrists. But he has started to complain about them every single interview. And every fanboy uses that excuse. I like players who take a loss and then say: my opponent was better
except that he was so ahead of everyone when he played at his best that he's still the better player overall, simply he can't play at his best. just watch the 1st ladder games he streamed and today... he was so much better back then :'(
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On July 08 2012 03:07 ohampatu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 03:06 LimitSEA wrote:On July 08 2012 02:57 ohampatu wrote:On July 08 2012 02:56 andaylin wrote:On July 08 2012 02:53 Ammoth wrote:
Whats up with mvp today? :/ He's a better preparation GSL player. Basically opposite of MKP. MVP can play long tournies just fine. he absolutely smashed everything last year when he entered its not better preparation (he is out of GSL). Its that he is getting worse/not improving like others. The king is slowly falling I know I replied to this already, but I feel I have to point out that he gets very little practice compared to other progamers because of his wrists. He's said in several interviews that a lot of days his wrists trouble him too much to practice at all. I don't think it's so much a case of him getting worse, as it is others are improving a lot and he can't keep up with the limited practice he gets. That said, I'm an IM fanboy so I'm fairly biased and hopeful his wrists are the cause of his lack of dominance. :p yea i made another post i wasn't for sure if you saw its not that i dont think MVP's issues are his wrists. But he has started to complain about them every single interview. And every fanboy uses that excuse. I like players who take a loss and then say: my opponent was better
I would complain about my wrists too if I had carpal tunnel , you know, since he plays starcraft for a living and all, ya know?
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On July 08 2012 03:07 ohampatu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 03:06 LimitSEA wrote:On July 08 2012 02:57 ohampatu wrote:On July 08 2012 02:56 andaylin wrote:On July 08 2012 02:53 Ammoth wrote:
Whats up with mvp today? :/ He's a better preparation GSL player. Basically opposite of MKP. MVP can play long tournies just fine. he absolutely smashed everything last year when he entered its not better preparation (he is out of GSL). Its that he is getting worse/not improving like others. The king is slowly falling I know I replied to this already, but I feel I have to point out that he gets very little practice compared to other progamers because of his wrists. He's said in several interviews that a lot of days his wrists trouble him too much to practice at all. I don't think it's so much a case of him getting worse, as it is others are improving a lot and he can't keep up with the limited practice he gets. That said, I'm an IM fanboy so I'm fairly biased and hopeful his wrists are the cause of his lack of dominance. :p yea i made another post i wasn't for sure if you saw its not that i dont think MVP's issues are his wrists. But he has started to complain about them every single interview. And every fanboy uses that excuse. I like players who take a loss and then say: my opponent was better
I suppose you like Keen then, takes balls to say "I'm not as good as squirtle so I cheesed him" instead of excusing himself.
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On July 08 2012 03:07 SilSol wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 02:59 Fiasko wrote:On July 08 2012 02:56 SilSol wrote:On July 08 2012 02:54 Fiasko wrote:On July 08 2012 02:52 SilSol wrote:On July 08 2012 02:50 Fiasko wrote:On July 08 2012 02:46 SilSol wrote:On July 08 2012 02:45 Fiasko wrote:On July 08 2012 02:44 SilSol wrote:On July 08 2012 02:42 Fiasko wrote:
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"puttgarden"??? what do you mean?
And CHEERS :o) Everyone from southern sweden or wth even me travels to puttgarden from Trelleborg in sweden. http://www.border-shop.dk/ mostly to buy beer's so cheap it's insane. cheers ^_^ hahahaha ok! I didn´t know it :o) Wow seriously? Puttgarden is so famous in Sweden it's ridicioulus! We love Germany nonetheless Everybody in the hole world loves us!!! Last but not least the greece xD Thats the way it goes!!!! :D Just trolling :p yeah well i really like germany as a country! and i've been in many cities/villages the people is great there We ARE friendly, but the most people have there bias of us :/ But ok.....no problem with that^^ Well everyone haven't visit germany yet so they can't make up stories that's not real so ;] I still love Dresden's local beer called "feldschlösschen" http://www.feldschlosschen.ch/de/00_check_01.php Best beer i've ever had in my entire life. And trust me i've had many different type of beers. Don´t know that beer!!! You drunk, Warsteiner, Veltins or the beer in Cologne? thats awesome :o) Germany has a lot of gooood beer but we dont have the best like budweiser or heineken Of course! Warsteiner i have a big glass that says Warsteiner on! lol I like those beers yes. Here in Sweden we have Heineken, budweiser.. I think Carlsberg Sort Guld here in sweden is the best beer or the millenium beer I've tasted many german beers and they are not bad at all! You should try feldschlösschen best one ever made trust me. When you go to Dresden try that!
I dont think, that i will be in Dresden the next 3489374 Years :D But you are very right, Carlsberg is very good, too :o)
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