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SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
July 04 2012 10:01 GMT
#921
that wasn't what happened :\ wish they would at least say the correct information if they are going to talk about it on air
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 10:02:17
July 04 2012 10:01 GMT
#922
Why is it so hard for people to say, well that was a 2-1 series and it was pretty close game between two really strong PvP players.

Of course you dont. Genius soooooooo completely owned Naniwa it was just silly!!!!!! The previous 0-3 record in GSL to Naniwa clearly says that there is a huuuuuuuuuugh difference between them.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
July 04 2012 10:01 GMT
#923
On July 04 2012 19:00 Zorgaz wrote:
Do they really need 5 different GSL openings xD?

And what is this Global Standard!


GSL is the Global Standard. They are the best of the best, the highest level of SC2 and the most prestigious SC2 tournament in the world.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
July 04 2012 10:01 GMT
#924
Good god, I don't think I'll ever get tired of the GSL map intros.
ffxiv enjoyer
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
July 04 2012 10:02 GMT
#925
Go handsomepuppyterran!
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 04 2012 10:02 GMT
#926
On July 04 2012 19:00 jmbthirteen wrote:
If GOM is gonna market themselves as the Global Standard, can they meet the global standard of stream quality please?


You get used to it the stream is really no different to MLG for me even on LQ
Lovedoll
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan540 Posts
July 04 2012 10:02 GMT
#927
I really love all these new maps this season.
Spread your eggs until they crack!
masterchip27
Profile Joined April 2011
United States284 Posts
July 04 2012 10:02 GMT
#928
On July 04 2012 19:01 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 19:00 jmbthirteen wrote:
If GOM is gonna market themselves as the Global Standard, can they meet the global standard of stream quality please?

Too poor


im actually fine with their quality. you guys must be using some pretty big screens
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 04 2012 10:02 GMT
#929
TvT on whirlwind.
New record incoming?
I had a good night of sleep.
MMS
Profile Joined February 2012
39 Posts
July 04 2012 10:02 GMT
#930
On July 04 2012 18:59 dangerjoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 18:56 MMS wrote:
On July 04 2012 18:50 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 04 2012 18:49 Strela wrote:
I love how Naniwa always badmouths other players and now he fails so hard


wow what a failure in the round of 16 in the hardest tournament in the world. He's so bad.

wait what?


Haters gonna hate. This Season Naniwa is top 16 in the world. People will call him a loser and a failure because he wasn't able to win it all.
But luckily there are peolpe like you and me, and we know better than that!


He can still advance tho.. right?


It's better if you start with a win, but yes, he can still advance. He did it in RO 32 and he can do it in Ro16 as well.
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
July 04 2012 10:02 GMT
#931
On July 04 2012 18:58 blooblooblahblah wrote:
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On July 04 2012 18:53 Seiniyta wrote:
For PvP Cloud Kingdom is a very poor map if one player goes Blink and the other Robo, the amount of flexibility the blink players has is just insane. Genius picked the right build for the map and Naniwa didn't, but it was still a meh build order loss game.


If that observer gets sniped, Genius has no flexibility at all and Naniwa has enough units to defend at the front until the next observer comes. I understand how in-game it sees really risky to build an observer in those moments, but with the decreased build time and chrono boost, it could have been a life saver. Naniwa just needed a little more time to stabilize so he could defend both his main and natural fairly efficiently. Blink is obviously great on Cloud Kingdom, but i don't think that was a complete loss from the outset at all. Both players played well, but if you're the FEing player, you have to play even better and Naniwa wasn't quite able to.


It's super risky though, especially when you don't have Blink. If Genius controls his observer well its really hard, if not impossible. Chronoboosting out Inmortals and hoping you have enough inmortals to just overpower the blink stalker army is in that situation I think a 'safer' option.
Pokemon Master
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
July 04 2012 10:02 GMT
#932
On July 04 2012 19:00 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 18:59 Gladiator333 wrote:
On July 04 2012 18:56 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 04 2012 18:56 ShoWTimE94 wrote:
On July 04 2012 18:52 GDbushido wrote:
lol people are calling that BO loss? immortals are pretty good against stalkers guys. it was the fact that naniwa kept letting genius blink into his main. he lost like 20 probes that way.


and how exactly was naniwa supposed to prevent it? you cant snipe the obs when it's controlled well and when he puts a lot of units in his main, genius will just kill probes/units at the natural. you can always do a shit lot of damage with blink obs vs 2 gate robo into expansion. simply not the best build order choice by naniwa for this map.


well tastetosis did mention that genius overextended with his obs so if naniwa made an obs earlier he could have sniped genius's obs and put an end to the blinking into the main, at least for a long time.


I think Naniwa felt it was a all-in and not expand afterwards, probably the reason why he wanted those immortals instead of the observer. However that was not the case and Naniwa probably misread. I think if Naniwa had a hidden probe on the map so that he could perhaps sneak it by Genius natural and base plus put down proxy pylon would be the absolute best for him.

How do you want him to have a probe on the map ? he doesn't scout.


Well, he could have it out anytime before the pressure starts. Doesn't need to be early scout or so but just before the real timings begin like 4 gate and such ones.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
July 04 2012 10:02 GMT
#933
On July 04 2012 19:01 Kommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 19:00 Zorgaz wrote:
Do they really need 5 different GSL openings xD?

And what is this Global Standard!


GSL is the Global Standard. They are the best of the best, the highest level of SC2 and the most prestigious SC2 tournament in the world.

They have the best stream quality too.
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
GDbushido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States926 Posts
July 04 2012 10:02 GMT
#934
On July 04 2012 18:56 ShoWTimE94 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 18:52 GDbushido wrote:
lol people are calling that BO loss? immortals are pretty good against stalkers guys. it was the fact that naniwa kept letting genius blink into his main. he lost like 20 probes that way.


and how exactly was naniwa supposed to prevent it? you cant snipe the obs when it's controlled well and when he puts a lot of units in his main, genius will just kill probes/units at the natural. you can always do a shit lot of damage with blink obs vs 2 gate robo into expansion(on certain maps ofc). simply not the best build order choice by naniwa for this map.
short of sniping the observer he could have left a couple zealots and an immortal on the high ground to inflict heavy losses as soon as genius blinks up. once he had 3 immortals out you can definitely afford to do this and still hold your natural.
remember not to think too much and your trip will be numbingly pleasant
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 04 2012 10:02 GMT
#935
On July 04 2012 19:01 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 19:00 jmbthirteen wrote:
If GOM is gonna market themselves as the Global Standard, can they meet the global standard of stream quality please?

Too poor


all your posts are so aggressive today It's funny.
dyi
Profile Joined March 2012
United States19 Posts
July 04 2012 10:02 GMT
#936
On July 04 2012 18:57 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 18:55 Yaki wrote:
On July 04 2012 18:52 sc2superfan101 wrote:
meh, genius played well but he still barely squeeked by. nani still probly gonna get out of this group. hopefully.

ggs by genius though. i picked him and nani to get out, so im happy.

barely ? he crushed him in game 1 and 3. you don't know shit

The bias is heavy in this one.

How is it bias? Game one was a total build order win, while game three Genius toyed around with Naniwa with his blink. Pretty delusional to say otherwise.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
July 04 2012 10:02 GMT
#937
On July 04 2012 19:01 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Why is it so hard for people to say, well that was a 2-1 series and it was pretty close game between to really strong PvP players.

Of course you dont. Genius soooooooo completely owned Naniwa it was just Silly. The previous 0-3 record in GSL to Naniwa clearly says that there is a huuuuuuuuuugh difference between them.


You can be pretty sure people saying Genius owned Nani is just backlash from Nani fans talking about him outclassing Genius in game 2 xD

And Genius 4-0'd Nani in their NASL showmatch so I'm pretty sure they are fairly well matched, it just comes down a lot to builds and who plays better on a given day.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
July 04 2012 10:02 GMT
#938
Kind of ridiculous that they don't say Byun's name.

:[
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 04 2012 10:02 GMT
#939
hey new prime shirt
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
July 04 2012 10:02 GMT
#940
Hahaha, just "Prime" cos he changed his name again.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
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