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[EG MCSL] Finals Weekend - Season VII - Day 2 - Page 13

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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 02 2012 03:00 GMT
#241
On July 02 2012 11:58 Kieofire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 11:56 SeeKeR wrote:
Killer <GSL Metropolis> Oz

Heart <GSL Cloud Kingdom> Moon

GanZi <GSL Bel'Shir Beach Winter> ByuL

Goswser <GSL Antiga Shipyard> aLive


Bad draw for Oz there.


It's funny how a few months really changes things. Just a few months ago, that matchup should have been almost a given for Oz, with his great PvP and Killer's lackluster PvP. Now I'm not so sure anymore
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
July 02 2012 03:02 GMT
#242
bad draw for Goswser but that's understandable lol.
Sucks to have only 3 good players there, but at least they got two shot at it if they miss.
BrassMonkey27
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada616 Posts
July 02 2012 03:02 GMT
#243
Are these the finals?
HoneyBadger.784 Diamond KR "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 02 2012 03:10 GMT
#244
On July 02 2012 12:02 BrassMonkey27 wrote:
Are these the finals?


Yes
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 02 2012 03:21 GMT
#245
That was possibly the shittest PvP engagement I've ever seen on both sides. -_-;;
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
July 02 2012 03:22 GMT
#246
Oz is so dead. He isn't even trying to neutralize the pheonix.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
July 02 2012 03:23 GMT
#247
What just happened?
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17739 Posts
July 02 2012 03:23 GMT
#248
On July 02 2012 12:23 Mordiford wrote:
What just happened?

Oz's PvP curse
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elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
July 02 2012 03:24 GMT
#249
lol queen latifah
d=(^_^)z
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
July 02 2012 03:27 GMT
#250
Shite. Complexity is handpicking counters. That is just shitty
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17739 Posts
July 02 2012 03:29 GMT
#251
On July 02 2012 12:27 redviper wrote:
Shite. Complexity is handpicking counters. That is just shitty

interesting, is this a bigger handicap than extended series?
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TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
July 02 2012 03:30 GMT
#252
This advantage system in the finals is even more dumb than the MLG system.
Finals are supposed to be finals, they're supposed to be fair. Who cares about one team having lost a series and the other team not having lost a previous series? These advantages make finals much less meaningful as a display of skill.
Cubeface
Profile Joined April 2011
965 Posts
July 02 2012 03:33 GMT
#253
Why was that the funniest thing I've ever seen
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 02 2012 03:33 GMT
#254
On July 02 2012 12:30 TigerKarl wrote:
This advantage system in the finals is even more dumb than the MLG system.
Finals are supposed to be finals, they're supposed to be fair. Who cares about one team having lost a series and the other team not having lost a previous series? These advantages make finals much less meaningful as a display of skill.


It's not fair to Complexity if they had no advantage either though. If Fnatic wins, they end up 1-1 in matchs in the playoffs, yet Fnatic is the champion and coL is 2nd.

coL hasn't lost a series in the playoffs yet, while Fnatic has.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17739 Posts
July 02 2012 03:34 GMT
#255
On July 02 2012 12:30 TigerKarl wrote:
This advantage system in the finals is even more dumb than the MLG system.
Finals are supposed to be finals, they're supposed to be fair. Who cares about one team having lost a series and the other team not having lost a previous series? These advantages make finals much less meaningful as a display of skill.

yea I agree, it should be an epic rematch, not a "well these guys should probably just win again"
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Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
July 02 2012 03:35 GMT
#256
Strange PvP. Zealots>EVERYTHING. No just kidding but interesting strategy coming out from Killer.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
July 02 2012 03:35 GMT
#257
On July 02 2012 12:30 TigerKarl wrote:
This advantage system in the finals is even more dumb than the MLG system.
Finals are supposed to be finals, they're supposed to be fair. Who cares about one team having lost a series and the other team not having lost a previous series? These advantages make finals much less meaningful as a display of skill.


If this system wasn't in place Complexity would have already won the tournament. It blows my mind that people don't understand double elimination or are actually idiotic enough to think it's unfair. Everyone gets two opportunities to lose in the tournament, everyone gets the same opportunity, that's entirely fair.

The Master's Cup tries to make it a more equal final by removing the advantage that the winner's bracket finalist earned by not losing and you're STILL complaining. The fair alternative to this is simple single elimination, if you want single elimination that's fine, but Complexity having an advantage here is not unfair.
FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
July 02 2012 03:38 GMT
#258
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 02 2012 03:38 GMT
#259
what else do we do? Make them lose 2 cw's? Do you know what the does to a team/production? That is 4 more hours for us to cast and at least that much for those 2 teams to play another match.. with koreans it is almost impossible to find that much time in a day.

This is a HUGE advantage but so is double elim where 1 team has to lose 2x
MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 03:42:49
July 02 2012 03:40 GMT
#260
That's just how double elimination tournaments work, you have 2 lives, it's just normal that the non-losing team gets an advantage.
The better finals are the single elimination tournaments one, but then it make it so fan favorites sometimes don't go far in the tournament.

Edit: Uh. Don't know what's the advantage in this tournament though.
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