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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
On July 02 2012 20:32 SolidMustard wrote: Yup it's like one of the most interesting match-ups. Much more depth than ZvZ and PvP and much more variety Not more variety than ZvZ at the very least. Mostly what varies is the ratio of bio with your siege tanks force... | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
Steppes of War! | ||
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SilentSC2
United States505 Posts
On July 02 2012 20:33 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Losira 8-0 with finally some different Korean writing....going to assume he's won at least 1 game in there somewhere by now xD And you would be assuming wrong... from what I see they haven't started yet... | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On July 02 2012 20:33 Probe1 wrote: Dude that's pretty shit of you to say. zvz is entertaining in moderation. tvt is entertaining in moderation. I appreciate no one likes a shitload of zvz. I don't like playing it over and over. But saying TvT is a skillful matchup (and I'm assuming that implies other matchups require less skill) is fucking stupid.  Also, I believe it was you saying Daybreak was bad for T. TvZ: 107-107 (50%) k Daybreak is one of the better Maps for TvZ in the mappool because there's no way Creepspread will be at the 3rd/4th Base of the non-zerg by 12-15 minutes. | ||
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Tsubbi
Germany7996 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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Williammm
Australia908 Posts
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
Ha ha ha the good old Steppes of War would be fun ^^ | ||
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SolidMustard
France1515 Posts
On July 02 2012 20:34 samurai80 wrote: Not more variety than ZvZ at the very least. Mostly what varies is the ratio of bio with your siege tanks force... Not really. Pure bio and pure mech are both viable and fairly frequent. There is a lot of different openings, and late game composition are also diversified with various mech / sky-terran combos. He, it comes to personal preference at some point but I gotta say TvT is my second favourite matchup after TvZ | ||
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SilentSC2
United States505 Posts
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OnFiRe888
United States629 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On July 02 2012 20:35 s3rp wrote: Daybreak is one of the better Maps for TvZ in the mappool because there's no way Creepspread will be at the 3rd/4th Base of the non-zerg by 12-15 minutes. Season 3: Code A TvZ: 4-1 (80%) Season 3: Code S TvZ: 17-16 (51.5%) No Daybreak TvZs in Code A TvZ: 5-3 (62.5%) in Code S On July 02 2012 20:37 OnFiRe888 wrote: So much talk about zvz and tvt. What about pvp? 0.o Heh I'd say pvp is the mirror matchup thats come the farthest! | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On July 02 2012 20:36 samurai80 wrote: Ha ha ha the good old Steppes of War would be fun ^^ I don't think so i'd guess creepspread would be at the natural of Terran by 10 minutes. ^^ I guess you could still All-In very well there though ^^ | ||
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SilentSC2
United States505 Posts
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
On July 02 2012 20:29 s3rp wrote: Only way this is gonna change without a balance patch is introducing a bunch of different maps that aren't great for Zerg. The maps they used seem to make for a pretty good balance at least in TvZ. If i'm not mistaken, in this qualifier ZvT is at 25W-29L for terran. | ||
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Tsubbi
Germany7996 Posts
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
On July 02 2012 20:35 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: TvT is overrated. Best tvt was the during the mech days. It's still the best mirror but ZvZ isn't far behind these days and may even overtake it should we see more development like we have been recently. Personally, I always thought it was the least figured out MU. Yeah, and I personally think ZvZ is already better. Recent TvT have mostly been this tanks siege / unsiege shit, the guys taken by surprise when unsieging losing most of the time... | ||
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JohannesClimacus
United Kingdom66 Posts
On July 02 2012 20:35 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: TvT is overrated. Best tvt was the during the mech days. It's still the best mirror but ZvZ isn't far behind these days and may even overtake it should we see more development like we have been recently. Personally, I always thought it was the least figured out MU. I think early/mid game PvP has improved 10 fold in the last couple of months. If someone could develop a lategame counter to collossi that was not just more collossi then it would be an eminently watchable matchup. | ||
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