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Mooster
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada43 Posts
June 29 2012 10:13 GMT
#361
Dont blame the casters for their analysis. Anyone with a decent knowledge of how sc2 works at the pro level would've called it Finale's win. But finale just got too confident and spread himself too thin, people should be enjoying these games where near impossible comebacks are made possible by one player's mistakes and another's tenacity.
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
June 29 2012 10:13 GMT
#362
On June 29 2012 19:12 Chantastic wrote:
Stop bashing on Wolf and Khalador, it wasn't a Misread, Alive was down 40 supply with 10 SCVs on one base while Finale still had two bases up. It was a sound call, it was literally Finale's game to lose, and he let Alive back in by letting him do drops, teching through two paths at the same time while taking a third. Sure, MULES rock, but the casters aren't fucking clairvoyants, they had no way to know that Finale would choke that bad.



the Lurker emerges.... and speaks TRUTH!

Amen.
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munchmunch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada789 Posts
June 29 2012 10:14 GMT
#363
A comeback with drops like that is the equivalent of a hail mary pass. Sure, you don't expect it to work most of the time. But when it does, it's beautiful to see.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
June 29 2012 10:15 GMT
#364
On June 29 2012 19:12 Chantastic wrote:
Stop bashing on Wolf and Khalador, it wasn't a Misread, Alive was down 40 supply with 10 SCVs on one base while Finale still had two bases up. It was a sound call, it was literally Finale's game to lose, and he let Alive back in by letting him do drops, teching through two paths at the same time while taking a third. Sure, MULES rock, but the casters aren't fucking clairvoyants, they had no way to know that Finale would choke that bad.



I really don't think it was a misread. I'm only half watching while playing D3 but I was thinking the whole time "Im not sure this is over..." He had upgrade advantage, mules are never to be underestimated and he had a drop killing probes while that attack was going on. A protoss on 1 base(he wasn't fully saturated anywhere) isn't that dangerous, especially vs upgraded marauders.
Sure he was down but a come back wasnt that far fetched imo.
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37071 Posts
June 29 2012 10:15 GMT
#365
On June 29 2012 19:12 Chantastic wrote:
Stop bashing on Wolf and Khalador, it wasn't a misread, Alive was down 40 supply with 10 SCVs on one base while Finale still had two bases up. It was a sound call, it was literally Finale's game to lose, and he let Alive back in by letting him do drops, teching through two paths at the same time while taking a third. Sure, MULES rock, but the casters aren't fucking clairvoyants, they had no way to know that Finale would choke that bad.


dat 1st post Oo;;
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glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
June 29 2012 10:15 GMT
#366
On June 29 2012 19:14 munchmunch wrote:
A comeback with drops like that is the equivalent of a hail mary pass. Sure, you don't expect it to work most of the time. But when it does, it's beautiful to see.


Although I'm a terran player, that was painful to watch a player choke that bad D:
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
TheRealFluid
Profile Joined June 2011
United States501 Posts
June 29 2012 10:15 GMT
#367
On June 29 2012 19:12 Chantastic wrote:
Stop bashing on Wolf and Khalador, it wasn't a misread, Alive was down 40 supply with 10 SCVs on one base while Finale still had two bases up. It was a sound call, it was literally Finale's game to lose, and he let Alive back in by letting him do drops, teching through two paths at the same time while taking a third. Sure, MULES rock, but the casters aren't fucking clairvoyants, they had no way to know that Finale would choke that bad.


Please post more often here. We need men of sense and logic in our community.
"The wings don't make you fly and the crown don't make you king.||"What do you say to god of gg? NOT TODAY" -John the Translator. "Give me Command" -Yellow.
Woizit
Profile Joined June 2011
801 Posts
June 29 2012 10:15 GMT
#368
There were 2 OCs, with the first base beginning to mine out. Wolf and Khaldor made the right calls, but they did skew it a little too much in Finale's favour when disregarding that.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
June 29 2012 10:16 GMT
#369
On June 29 2012 19:15 TheRealFluid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 19:12 Chantastic wrote:
Stop bashing on Wolf and Khalador, it wasn't a misread, Alive was down 40 supply with 10 SCVs on one base while Finale still had two bases up. It was a sound call, it was literally Finale's game to lose, and he let Alive back in by letting him do drops, teching through two paths at the same time while taking a third. Sure, MULES rock, but the casters aren't fucking clairvoyants, they had no way to know that Finale would choke that bad.


Please post more often here. We need men of sense and logic in our community.


Indeed!
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
June 29 2012 10:16 GMT
#370
On June 29 2012 19:09 JunkkaGom wrote:
What do you say to god of gg?

NOT TODAY

I AM STILL ALIVE!
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37071 Posts
June 29 2012 10:17 GMT
#371
On June 29 2012 19:16 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 19:09 JunkkaGom wrote:
What do you say to god of gg?

NOT TODAY

I AM STILL ALIVE!

LOL! DOUBLE WIN!
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Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)2394 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 10:17:39
June 29 2012 10:17 GMT
#372
That was thebest banshee control I've seen in awhile
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Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
June 29 2012 10:18 GMT
#373
On June 29 2012 19:13 Mooster wrote:
Dont blame the casters for their analysis. Anyone with a decent knowledge of how sc2 works at the pro level would've called it Finale's win. But finale just got too confident and spread himself too thin, people should be enjoying these games where near impossible comebacks are made possible by one player's mistakes and another's tenacity.


They just called it over too quickly, not the first time for them.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
June 29 2012 10:19 GMT
#374
On June 29 2012 19:18 Strela wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 19:13 Mooster wrote:
Dont blame the casters for their analysis. Anyone with a decent knowledge of how sc2 works at the pro level would've called it Finale's win. But finale just got too confident and spread himself too thin, people should be enjoying these games where near impossible comebacks are made possible by one player's mistakes and another's tenacity.


They just called it over too quickly, not the first time for them.


Yeah but in this situation it's not worth giving them shit for it. Every caster in the world would have called it in Finale's favor there.
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
June 29 2012 10:20 GMT
#375
On June 29 2012 19:09 JunkkaGom wrote:
What do you say to god of gg?

NOT TODAY

john you're a hero

you best be platinum now
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Chantastic
Profile Joined June 2012
86 Posts
June 29 2012 10:21 GMT
#376
On June 29 2012 19:15 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 19:12 Chantastic wrote:
Stop bashing on Wolf and Khalador, it wasn't a Misread, Alive was down 40 supply with 10 SCVs on one base while Finale still had two bases up. It was a sound call, it was literally Finale's game to lose, and he let Alive back in by letting him do drops, teching through two paths at the same time while taking a third. Sure, MULES rock, but the casters aren't fucking clairvoyants, they had no way to know that Finale would choke that bad.



I really don't think it was a misread. I'm only half watching while playing D3 but I was thinking the whole time "Im not sure this is over..." He had upgrade advantage, mules are never to be underestimated and he had a drop killing probes while that attack was going on. A protoss on 1 base(he wasn't fully saturated anywhere) isn't that dangerous, especially vs upgraded marauders.
Sure he was down but a come back wasnt that far fetched imo.


Excellent point, but with a proper response, IE chronoing out some probes, then remaking Collossi and pushing again, it should've been over. He lost all but two medivacs, and he wouldn't have been able to get the medivac count and viking count at the same time to deal without having zero ground army to harass/hold the follow up push.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37071 Posts
June 29 2012 10:21 GMT
#377
On June 29 2012 19:17 Scarlett` wrote:
That was thebest banshee control I've seen in awhile

Damn. It's so awesome to see Scarlett post in my threads two days in a row
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 29 2012 10:21 GMT
#378
Monster is so good. I became a fan when he all killed the top 5 of EG .
I had a good night of sleep.
Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
June 29 2012 10:21 GMT
#379
On June 29 2012 19:19 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 19:18 Strela wrote:
On June 29 2012 19:13 Mooster wrote:
Dont blame the casters for their analysis. Anyone with a decent knowledge of how sc2 works at the pro level would've called it Finale's win. But finale just got too confident and spread himself too thin, people should be enjoying these games where near impossible comebacks are made possible by one player's mistakes and another's tenacity.


They just called it over too quickly, not the first time for them.


Yeah but in this situation it's not worth giving them shit for it. Every caster in the world would have called it in Finale's favor there.


Yea ofcourse no need to totally bash on them for it
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37071 Posts
June 29 2012 10:22 GMT
#380
WOW!

I HATE TERRANS THAT DON'T SPLIT THEIR TANKS!!!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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