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MepHiii
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland191 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 10:26:21
June 22 2012 18:29 GMT
#1
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This was definitely something that needed to be done. Welcome to the first big reverse race Starcraft II tournament. Players offrace on ladder or smurf accounts all the time, let's see how professional players fare when they have to play each other's races in a tournament environment. Will they teach each other how their races are really supposed to be played or will we see funny mistakes from all sides? Creative or standard? "Consider switching races" or "never touch that race again"? This tournament would not be possible without our great sponsor Alienware.

Thursday, Jun 28 1:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)


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Not Terran:
(T)ClouD - Carlo Giannacco
(T)Kas - Mihaylo Hayda
(T)LucifroN - Pedro Moreno Duran
(T)GoOdy - Sascha Lupp
(T)meRz - Tim Olsson


Not Protoss:
(P)BlinG - Samayan Kay
(P)Socke - Giacomo Thüs
(P)MaNa - Grzegorz Komincz
(P)White-Ra - Aleksey Krupnyk
(P)elfi - Samuli Sihvonen

Not Zerg:
(Z)sLivko - Artem Garavtsov
(Z)JonnyREcco - Paul Whyte
(Z)Cytoplasm - Jonas Larsson
(Z)HappyZerG - Svyatoslav Vlasyuk
(Z)Stephano - Ilyes Satouri
(Z)Nerchio - Artur Bloch

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  • 1st place: 200£ (~248€)
  • 2nd place: 100£ (~124€)
  • 3rd/4th place: 50£ (~62€)

Exchange ratios according to Google on June 22nd.

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(2) ESV Korhal Compound TE

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(2) ESV Ohana LE

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(4) ESV Vicious

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(4) ESV Khaydaria

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(4) MLG Entombed Valley


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Four streams, coverage of all matches!
Main Stream: Martijn & JoRoSaR [image loading] [image loading]
http://www.twitch.tv/glhf

Stream 2: Leon [image loading]
http://www.twitch.tv/leonstarcraft

Stream 3: IMBAtv [image loading]
http://www.twitch.tv/imbalancedtv

Stream 4: GamerPowered [image loading]
http://www.twitch.tv/gamerpowered

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You just play each other's races, okay? Fine, here you have it in more detail:
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Format: 16 player Single Elimination

Match format: All matches Bo3, Final Bo5

Reverse Race: In each match, players will choose the default race of their opponent.
- Example: (Terran) Grubby vs Kas (Protoss)

Mirror matches: The non-mirror matchups of the other two races will be played first. For a possible third map, the regular races will be played. The upper player in the bracket chooses his race for the first map BEFORE the map veto.
- Example: DarK.FoRcE vs Slivko – DarK.FoRcE chooses Protoss for the first map before the map veto
- - Map 1: (Protoss) DarK.FoRcE vs Slivko (Terran)
- - Map 2: (Terran) DarK.FoRcE vs Slivko (Protoss)
- - Map 3: (Zerg) DarK.FoRcE vs Slivko (Zerg)

Mirror match in Final: Again, non-mirror matchups of the other two races first. For maps 3 and 4, the mirror matchups of those races will be played. For a possible fifth map, the regular races will be played. The upper player chooses his race for the first map (which will also be the mirror race for map 3).
- Example: ClouD vs SjoW – ClouD chooses Zerg for the first and third map
- - Map 1: (Zerg) ClouD vs SjoW (Protoss)
- - Map 2: (Protoss) ClouD vs SjoW (Zerg)
- - Map 3: (Zerg) ClouD vs SjoW (Zerg)
- - Map 4: (Protoss) ClouD vs SjoW (Protoss)
- - Map 5: (Terran) ClouD vs SjoW (Terran)
MepHiii
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland191 Posts
June 22 2012 18:30 GMT
#2
If you like the idea, please consider checking out our website and the official tournament landing page. Thank you very much.
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
June 22 2012 18:33 GMT
#3
i dont understand the race picking rules for mirror matchups on your page. can you explain in a more clear way? thanks!

other than mirror MU, should be fun
Founder of Flow Enterprises, LLC http://flow-enterprises.com/
MepHiii
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland191 Posts
June 22 2012 18:38 GMT
#4
On June 23 2012 03:33 nath wrote:
i dont understand the race picking rules for mirror matchups on your page. can you explain in a more clear way? thanks!

other than mirror MU, should be fun

basically we don't want standard and we don't want one of them to have an advantage by playing their actual race
so in a TvT mirror we want them to play ZvP and PvZ (and TvT as decider)
mirror match in final (Best of 5), we would want them to play ZvP, PvZ, ZvZ, PvP (and TvT as 5th decider map)
is that clearer?
Krallman
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden713 Posts
June 22 2012 18:41 GMT
#5
If you're both zergs 1 player gets toss and the other gets terran. Then the next game the first player gets terran and the second gets protoss. If its 1-1 by that point you'll just play the mirror match up (zvz). And then this: The upper player in the bracket chooses his race for the first map BEFORE the map veto.
to decide who picks the first race.
Im better than Stefan
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
June 22 2012 18:41 GMT
#6
On June 23 2012 03:38 MepHiii wrote:
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On June 23 2012 03:33 nath wrote:
i dont understand the race picking rules for mirror matchups on your page. can you explain in a more clear way? thanks!

other than mirror MU, should be fun

basically we don't want standard and we don't want one of them to have an advantage by playing their actual race
so in a TvT mirror we want them to play ZvP and PvZ (and TvT as decider)
mirror match in final (Best of 5), we would want them to play ZvP, PvZ, ZvZ, PvP (and TvT as 5th decider map)
is that clearer?

that is clear, but in the page it says for a TvT, first map one player gets to pick P or Z, and the other gets the other race. Who gets to pick?
Founder of Flow Enterprises, LLC http://flow-enterprises.com/
Avicularia
Profile Joined February 2012
540 Posts
June 22 2012 18:46 GMT
#7
I really love the idea Good luck!
MepHiii
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland191 Posts
June 22 2012 18:49 GMT
#8
On June 23 2012 03:41 nath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 03:38 MepHiii wrote:
On June 23 2012 03:33 nath wrote:
i dont understand the race picking rules for mirror matchups on your page. can you explain in a more clear way? thanks!

other than mirror MU, should be fun

basically we don't want standard and we don't want one of them to have an advantage by playing their actual race
so in a TvT mirror we want them to play ZvP and PvZ (and TvT as decider)
mirror match in final (Best of 5), we would want them to play ZvP, PvZ, ZvZ, PvP (and TvT as 5th decider map)
is that clearer?

that is clear, but in the page it says for a TvT, first map one player gets to pick P or Z, and the other gets the other race. Who gets to pick?

Ah, ok. So two Terrans meet and they are yet to do the map veto. Before knowing what the first map will be, the "upper" player (in the bracket) has to decide which race he will play in the first map (P or Z). Say he picks Zerg, they do the veto, now knowing the first map will be ZvP and the 2nd map PvZ.
Basically we don't want them to veto and THEN let one player pick his race, both players should know the matchup before vetoing.
quannguyen
Profile Joined January 2012
Vietnam1390 Posts
June 22 2012 18:52 GMT
#9
I love this idea. Hope this tourney will be a sucess so that we'll have more tourneys like this in the future
Unlimited Warcraft Works and Super Starcraft Taisen ^^
HoboJoe20
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada63 Posts
June 22 2012 18:52 GMT
#10
This is a fantastic idea. I'm excited to tune in!
IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 18:56:04
June 22 2012 18:55 GMT
#11
Really, really excited to watch this! Although i'm not waking up at 6:00am lol
SC2 Mapmaker || twitter: @ironmansc || Ohana & Mech Depot || 3x TLMC finalist || www.twitch.tv/sc2mapstream
MepHiii
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland191 Posts
June 24 2012 14:10 GMT
#12
Announcing (T)ClouD, (T)Kas, (P)BlinG and (Z)sLivko as the first four players!
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
June 24 2012 16:53 GMT
#13
Cool idea! Socke and Grubby need to be in this, their bo3 TvT they played in a weekly cup once was pretty cool.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9031 Posts
June 24 2012 17:08 GMT
#14
Finally. Hope more tournaments like this happen.
hellokittySC2
Profile Joined September 2009
United States395 Posts
June 24 2012 19:26 GMT
#15
Bling imbA off race Zerg!!
twitter.com/hellokittyhots facebook.com/hellokittysc2 hellokitty.278, http://twitch.tv/noobeater5 为中国人在星际上争气!
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
June 24 2012 19:30 GMT
#16
This should be fun!! Ill definitely tune in
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
lorestarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1049 Posts
June 24 2012 19:35 GMT
#17
That map pool is.... fun?
SC2 Mapmaker
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
June 24 2012 19:45 GMT
#18
Should be fun!
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
June 24 2012 19:50 GMT
#19
I've thought this would be really cool for a while!! Awesome.
IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
June 24 2012 20:16 GMT
#20
Just a heads up

Khaydaria is sorta broken in terms of the game variants switching modes and not allowing 1v1 to occur properly, but it should be resolved this monday.
SC2 Mapmaker || twitter: @ironmansc || Ohana & Mech Depot || 3x TLMC finalist || www.twitch.tv/sc2mapstream
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