EPT[IPL] FC22: TaeJa vs MarineKing - Page 3
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FinestHour
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andaylin
United States10830 Posts
On June 19 2012 08:55 MrCash wrote: Is it just me, or is TvT no longer the elegant chess match it's been long proclaimed to be? And not simply judging from this showmatch, my ladder experience in TvT has declined, but it's possible I'm just facing better players and am not used to their style. It feels like it just might be the messiest mirror match up right now. depends alot on the opening builds players choose imo. tank wars are still pretty strategical though. | ||
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andaylin
United States10830 Posts
On June 19 2012 08:58 FinestHour wrote: wait is mkp seriously about to lose o.O he should have lost like 10 minutes ago, he literally had like 1 scv left to 15 of taeja. | ||
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sc2superfan101
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Canucklehead
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On June 19 2012 09:00 sc2superfan101 wrote: MKP: creating the illusion of imbalance in TvT since 2010(?) Since 2012. Prior to this year, MKP had bad TvT and I would cringe watching them. He also used to have the worst banshee defense ever and I would see him die to cloakeds banshee a lot. His TvT this year is so much better now and is night and day compared to what it used to be. | ||
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Qaatar
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On June 19 2012 08:55 MrCash wrote: Is it just me, or is TvT no longer the elegant chess match it's been long proclaimed to be? And not simply judging from this showmatch, my ladder experience in TvT has declined, but it's possible I'm just facing better players and am not used to their style. It feels like it just might be the messiest mirror match up right now. If you want to watch art in SC2, watch MVP's TvT's. MKP is just playing like a straight up beast...inelegant, but effective and brutal. | ||
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Sumahi
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Itsmedudeman
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andaylin
United States10830 Posts
On June 19 2012 09:06 Itsmedudeman wrote: Bad compared to what? I don't really remember a time where MKP's TvT was under 50%, but I guess now it's a better matchup of his because zergs and protoss matchups have gotten harder. Maybe the blue flame helion era that lasted around 2 months or so. That was a tough period for MKP haha. | ||
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MrCash
United States1504 Posts
On June 19 2012 09:05 Qaatar wrote: If you want to watch art in SC2, watch MVP's TvT's. MKP is just playing like a straight up beast...inelegant, but effective and brutal. You mean like the 2 rax marine, marauder all-in? That was his most recent TvT build. Not the elegant TvT of old, of MVP or anyone else. | ||
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SwizzY
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On June 19 2012 08:55 MrCash wrote: Is it just me, or is TvT no longer the elegant chess match it's been long proclaimed to be? And not simply judging from this showmatch, my ladder experience in TvT has declined, but it's possible I'm just facing better players and am not used to their style. It feels like it just might be the messiest mirror match up right now. it's just MKP's tvts, they're not really drawn out tank wars but very timing and micro based from what i've seen this year he actually has the highest tvt winrate of any player this year lol. have only dropped matches to alive (2-1 marauder proxy) and taeja (after tilting hard). won every single other BOx and most BO1s this year  looking forward to him playing Mvp in ro16! | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
On June 19 2012 09:00 andaylin wrote: o.O he should have lost like 10 minutes ago, he literally had like 1 scv left to 15 of taeja. oh shit i guess i got too distracted by the banshees doing so good, forgot his base was basically nothing xp | ||
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andaylin
United States10830 Posts
On June 19 2012 09:12 opterown wrote: it's just MKP's tvts, they're not really drawn out tank wars but very timing and micro based from what i've seen this year he actually has the highest tvt winrate of any player this year lol. have only dropped matches to alive (2-1 marauder proxy) and taeja (after tilting hard). won every single other BOx and most BO1s this year looking forward to him playing Mvp in ro16! Haha would actually be a good TvT now! MKP best matchup is definitely TvT atm. | ||
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Qaatar
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On June 19 2012 09:10 MrCash wrote: You mean like the 2 rax marine, marauder all-in? That was his most recent TvT build. Not the elegant TvT of old, of MVP or anyone else. Not every game can be a beautiful management game. Didn't happen in BW TvZ, and certainly not in SC2 TvT. I think you've just been watching a few bad ones. The problem is, there hasn't really been too many TvT's recently, since the good Terrans aren't getting far enough in tournaments to meet each other. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46137 Posts
On June 19 2012 06:23 Qaatar wrote: Yes! Finally a fun TvT to watch. Dreamhack has been a snorefest. It's too bad you missed the actual Dreamhack that went on this weekend. It was awesome. This series is pretty one-sided. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On June 19 2012 09:13 andaylin wrote: Haha would actually be a good TvT now! MKP best matchup is definitely TvT atm. his vsP is still pretty decent and probably the best of any player's atm though, and while his vsZ is not super hot, relative to other terrans it's also pretty good haha | ||
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Murlos
United States27 Posts
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andaylin
United States10830 Posts
On June 19 2012 09:17 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: It's too bad you missed the actual Dreamhack that went on this weekend. It was awesome. This series is pretty one-sided. The quality of dreamhack games were pretty poor actually, especially the finals. Problem is there were no terrans in any of the later rounds. Can only stand so many 2 base all ins in PvZ. | ||
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FinestHour
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