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magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
June 18 2012 16:18 GMT
#1961
On June 19 2012 01:15 Heinsenzerg wrote:
lately sc2 feels like a one-mistake-game. Both ways, wether win or lose, you need to make or capitalize on one mistake



Thats because the people playing are so good. If someone was able too make multiple mistakes and still win would be the bigger concern for me.

And it wasn' just one mistake that led to SaSe's victory, there were three or four mistakes made that allowed him to capitalize
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
June 18 2012 16:18 GMT
#1962
On June 19 2012 01:16 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 01:15 Mobsy wrote:
On June 19 2012 01:11 dragonborn wrote:
NaNiwa vs DIMAGA is the most excited ro8 match.

stephano vs nerchio - nerchio favored.
HerO vs MaNa- HerO favored
NaNiwa vs DIMAGA - 50% 50%
SaSe vs Fraer - SaSe favored, upset can happen too.


How is Nerchio favored? Stephano wins 66.5% of his ZvZs... Nerchio is 68%. Stephano has wayyyyyy more LAN experience though. So it really just evens out.

Mobsy, Stephano lose ZvZ to sLivko and one no name at dreamhack. Also he stated that didnt practice ZvZ for 2 weeks.

tell me, how is nerchio isnt favored.

Losing ZvZ to no names while hungover in a stage that has no meaning because you know you will advance...

Yeah, clear proof that his ZvZ is terrible and a prime example of why Stephano will lose.

+ Show Spoiler +
/s
Embir
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland567 Posts
June 18 2012 16:18 GMT
#1963
On June 19 2012 01:15 Heinsenzerg wrote:
lately sc2 feels like a one-mistake-game. Both ways, wether win or lose, you need to make or capitalize on one mistake


If anything it only indicates how high overall skill of players improved and how good game is figured out.
P.S. Or how SC2 doesnt allow comebacks... I am not quite sure....
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
June 18 2012 16:19 GMT
#1964
On June 19 2012 01:17 Presidenten wrote:
how did sase win that o.o left the comp to eat when his first attack failed

SaSe backed off and Ret followed up with some agression at Sase's natural, Sase defends efficiently and Ret loses his third to a proxy warp-in of zealots. Sase sets up to take his third and counterattacks before Ret could get his tech/economy up.
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
June 18 2012 16:19 GMT
#1965
20-0? thats just stupid!
SIMONZAOOO
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland1 Post
June 18 2012 16:19 GMT
#1966
Ret lost because that 3rd hatch was sniped.. thats the only reason..

The best part is that he saw the zealots with the overlord and he dont go back to kill them... Thats what i call clutch decision making;/

sry for eng !
Moriarty
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom286 Posts
June 18 2012 16:19 GMT
#1967
My prediction from this morning has panned out, zvz pvp pvz. Suck them apples.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44535 Posts
June 18 2012 16:19 GMT
#1968
On June 19 2012 01:17 Sp00ly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 01:15 Mobsy wrote:
On June 19 2012 01:11 dragonborn wrote:
NaNiwa vs DIMAGA is the most excited ro8 match.

stephano vs nerchio - nerchio favored.
HerO vs MaNa- HerO favored
NaNiwa vs DIMAGA - 50% 50%
SaSe vs Fraer - SaSe favored, upset can happen too.


How is Nerchio favored? Stephano wins 66.5% of his ZvZs... Nerchio is 68%. Stephano has wayyyyyy more LAN experience though. So it really just evens out.


Stephano is 8-5 against Nerchio as well. I'd hardly call that Nerchio favored.


True. Stephano did already lose a ZvZ decidedly in this tournament so far though (to Slivko I believe), so that may factor in to the equation. We'll see what happens though.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
June 18 2012 16:19 GMT
#1969
On June 19 2012 01:15 Mobsy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 01:11 dragonborn wrote:
NaNiwa vs DIMAGA is the most excited ro8 match.

stephano vs nerchio - nerchio favored.
HerO vs MaNa- HerO favored
NaNiwa vs DIMAGA - 50% 50%
SaSe vs Fraer - SaSe favored, upset can happen too.


How is Nerchio favored? Stephano wins 66.5% of his ZvZs... Nerchio is 68%. Stephano has wayyyyyy more LAN experience though. So it really just evens out.


It is widely known that ZvZ is by far Stephanos worst match up, he lost 2 ZvZs earlier in the tournament, one of which was to some no name. Nerchio, on the other hand, is known as having some of the best ZvZ in Europe.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
June 18 2012 16:19 GMT
#1970
On June 19 2012 01:17 Mobsy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 01:16 dragonborn wrote:
On June 19 2012 01:15 Mobsy wrote:
On June 19 2012 01:11 dragonborn wrote:
NaNiwa vs DIMAGA is the most excited ro8 match.

stephano vs nerchio - nerchio favored.
HerO vs MaNa- HerO favored
NaNiwa vs DIMAGA - 50% 50%
SaSe vs Fraer - SaSe favored, upset can happen too.


How is Nerchio favored? Stephano wins 66.5% of his ZvZs... Nerchio is 68%. Stephano has wayyyyyy more LAN experience though. So it really just evens out.

Mobsy, Stephano lose ZvZ to sLivko and one no name at dreamhack. Also he stated that didnt practice ZvZ for 2 weeks.

tell me, how is nerchio isnt favored.


Hey I'm just going off his career stats... you can go off what he said and has shown in the past few weeks. We'll see who is correct


You do realize that you wouldn't have predicted the ZvZ defeats he already had by going off of his career stats? Thus your prediction method is already more flawed in comparison.
Mobsy
Profile Joined April 2012
United States127 Posts
June 18 2012 16:19 GMT
#1971
On June 19 2012 01:17 Klipsys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 01:15 Mobsy wrote:
On June 19 2012 01:11 dragonborn wrote:
NaNiwa vs DIMAGA is the most excited ro8 match.

stephano vs nerchio - nerchio favored.
HerO vs MaNa- HerO favored
NaNiwa vs DIMAGA - 50% 50%
SaSe vs Fraer - SaSe favored, upset can happen too.


How is Nerchio favored? Stephano wins 66.5% of his ZvZs... Nerchio is 68%. Stephano has wayyyyyy more LAN experience though. So it really just evens out.



Making useless comparisons, classic schmosby!


Classic schmosby? Mosby? Hmm, anywways, We'll see who is correct
I like the moment I break a man's ego.
Sp00ly
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1546 Posts
June 18 2012 16:20 GMT
#1972
Stephano gogogo!
Though I really don't know which game to watch
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
June 18 2012 16:20 GMT
#1973
On June 19 2012 01:17 Kommander wrote:
What's up with all this bullshit "he didn't deserve to win" crap? It's not like Sase just sat back and didn't press any keys or didn't click his mouse towards a victory. A lot of idiotic posts in here.

It can happen that no player deserves to win when both played poorly. It's pro level, we want to see betetr play.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
SyDe
Profile Joined January 2011
France355 Posts
June 18 2012 16:20 GMT
#1974
Nerchio Stephano started: http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhacksc2 !
Life :(
deepfield1
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States373 Posts
June 18 2012 16:20 GMT
#1975
That was actually really hard to watch.


FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
June 18 2012 16:20 GMT
#1976
If Nerchio goes through, doubt he can beat HerO.
Stephano would at least give HerO a crazy run for his money.

ZvZ is volatile and it really can go either unless you are ZenexLife.
Play your best
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
June 18 2012 16:20 GMT
#1977
On June 19 2012 01:15 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 01:13 SCST wrote:
On June 19 2012 01:10 hugman wrote:
On June 19 2012 01:06 SCST wrote:
SaSe doing the equivilent of a 1-1-1 for Protoss vs Zerg as per usual, he didn't deserve to win that game. Ret however, had that game won and lost it. Leaving half his army sitting around during the counter-attack and forgetting about it? Really?

How does Ret deserve to win when he made even worse mistakes?
It's not like whoever makes a mistake first deserves to lose


I didn't say Ret deserved to win, I said SaSe DIDN'T deserve to win. I respect players like Naniwa, Hero, Squirtle etc because they typically don't do pathetic all-ins as they have more builds and ideas available to them and don't have to rely on coin-flips. SaSe is no where near their level, yet gets results because of his cheese and good luck. Of course people are going to hate on him.


yet just one game earlier, he beat him on 3 bases?



Yeah, if SaSe didn't do the exact same build in game 3 to Stephano at MLG, then my opinion of him wouldn't have deteriorated. This is just the nail in the coffin for him in my opinion. First foreigner that I am officially an anti-fan of.
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
Embir
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland567 Posts
June 18 2012 16:20 GMT
#1978
I am really curious if Nerchio will balance-whine in mirror match-up in case of defeat.
Fanta_Rules
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden669 Posts
June 18 2012 16:20 GMT
#1979
On June 18 2012 22:26 Fanta_Rules wrote:
Poll: Who is going to advance?

Nerchio (46)
 
55%

Stephano (37)
 
45%

83 total votes

Your vote: Who is going to advance?

(Vote): Nerchio
(Vote): Stephano


Vote.
Fenneth
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia354 Posts
June 18 2012 16:20 GMT
#1980
Looking for Hero vods, but the vods available are just 10 hour long livestreams. Anyone know when/which stream exactly the games were played?
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