[NASL] Week 9 Division 4 - Page 2
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Australia54784 Posts
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
Edit: This is the open tournament opterown: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/North_American_Star_League_Season_3/Open_Tournament | ||
Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On June 17 2012 09:27 Dante_A_ wrote: I've never understood people's strong aversion to cheesy games - I'd rather watch a cheese rush than a long cautious 4 base game that has only one big battle at the end. I wish they would be called "micro-intensive openers" instead of "cheese". I don't have a problem with cheese. Cheese is fine. A player who basically ONLY cheeses is not fine. Seriously, nearly every game he plays, he opens in a cheesy way if he can, be it proxy starport, double rax as in these games, or some other cheese. It's what he does all the time. Someone who CAN cheese and does cheese sometimes is good. SC is like Idra, but the opposite. For most of his early career, Idra never ever cheesed, which made him bad and boring, because he never mixed it up, and was predictable. SC equally always cheeses, so he's also predictable and it's simply a bad way to play. You need to mix it up, not play the same way every single time you play. On June 17 2012 09:20 Dexington wrote: Lol this is the first time sC has been shown on an NASL broadcast... I never said they have shown him before, but he has played before many times in various competitions, and always cheeses. | ||
Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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HeroMystic
United States1217 Posts
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compucomp
United States98 Posts
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
And then complaining about lag. Sorry mate, but lag doesn't cause you to have really crap army control, being bad at army control does. When Forsen plays even close to well, he can complain about his opponent, until then, he's just being a complete baby. Maybe Masa didn't deserve to win, but Forsen deserved to win even less, so Masa should have won on balance anyway, and did. | ||
petered
United States1817 Posts
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Swords
6038 Posts
On June 17 2012 09:56 Lonyo wrote: Forsen a-moving infestors at the front of his army into a few fungaled marines. And then complaining about lag. Sorry mate, but lag doesn't cause you to have really crap army control, being bad at army control does. When Forsen plays even close to well, he can complain about his opponent, until then, he's just being a complete baby. Maybe Masa didn't deserve to win, but Forsen deserved to win even less, so Masa should have won on balance anyway, and did. Not to mention, you know, scouting. | ||
Swords
6038 Posts
On June 17 2012 09:42 Lonyo wrote: I don't have a problem with cheese. Cheese is fine. A player who basically ONLY cheeses is not fine. Seriously, nearly every game he plays, he opens in a cheesy way if he can, be it proxy starport, double rax as in these games, or some other cheese. It's what he does all the time. Someone who CAN cheese and does cheese sometimes is good. SC is like Idra, but the opposite. For most of his early career, Idra never ever cheesed, which made him bad and boring, because he never mixed it up, and was predictable. SC equally always cheeses, so he's also predictable and it's simply a bad way to play. You need to mix it up, not play the same way every single time you play. I never said they have shown him before, but he has played before many times in various competitions, and always cheeses. Hasn't sC spent the last year or so dealing with a collapsed lung? As someone who started playing in a time when lots of 2rax and early terran cheeses defined the game, he may not have spent much time learning macro builds while having lung surgery. It may be frustrating for you to watch, but give the guy a break, he's had horrible medical issues and is trying to make a living playing this game. | ||
GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
On June 17 2012 09:42 Lonyo wrote: I don't have a problem with cheese. Cheese is fine. A player who basically ONLY cheeses is not fine. Seriously, nearly every game he plays, he opens in a cheesy way if he can, be it proxy starport, double rax as in these games, or some other cheese. It's what he does all the time. Someone who CAN cheese and does cheese sometimes is good. SC is like Idra, but the opposite. For most of his early career, Idra never ever cheesed, which made him bad and boring, because he never mixed it up, and was predictable. SC equally always cheeses, so he's also predictable and it's simply a bad way to play. You need to mix it up, not play the same way every single time you play. I never said they have shown him before, but he has played before many times in various competitions, and always cheeses. SC vs Nestea That is all~ | ||
compucomp
United States98 Posts
Edit: Apparently Liquipedia has an error and Alicia is only +6. Or did NASL make an error? | ||
Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On June 17 2012 09:56 petered wrote: lol forsen. Gets a moment of fame, BMs opponent hardcore. Way to go man, now we all think you are a joke! First impressions, and he whiffed bigtime :| | ||
Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
On June 17 2012 10:01 compucomp wrote: Bitterdam just said Ret is playing for first place in the division, but Alicia is +7, 6-2 when Ret can be at best +7, 6-2, and Alicia beat Ret, how does Ret ever overtake Alicia? Edit: Apparently Liquipedia has an error and Alicia is only +6. Yeah he can't, Alicia wins the group for sure. Edit: I'm 90% sure Liquipedia is right. Just added up all the matches and what we have there is right based on that. And the nasl.tv site has nothing updated. | ||
compucomp
United States98 Posts
On June 17 2012 10:06 Dexington wrote: Yeah he can't, Alicia wins the group for sure. Edit: I'm 90% sure Liquipedia is right. Just added up all the matches and what we have there is right based on that. And the nasl.tv site has nothing updated. Well, NASL put up a graphic with the standings and had Alicia at +6. The discrepancy matters and should be resolved. | ||
Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
On June 17 2012 10:11 compucomp wrote: Well, NASL put up a graphic with the standings and had Alicia at +6. The discrepancy matters and should be resolved. I just looked at every live report thread for this division, Liquipedia is right. | ||
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Australia54784 Posts
On June 17 2012 09:37 Dexington wrote: Haha I want to see Forsen more. Such rage. Edit: This is the open tournament opterown: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/North_American_Star_League_Season_3/Open_Tournament ah right, cheers | ||
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On June 17 2012 10:12 Dexington wrote: I just looked at every live report thread for this division, Liquipedia is right. Alicia is in-fact +7. The standings were wrong in the graphic, should be fixed now. | ||
BathTubNZ
New Zealand2556 Posts
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