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On June 11 2012 07:14 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 07:10 bsball8806 wrote:On June 11 2012 07:07 SCST wrote:
And watch the viewership for MLG now drop to 8 people God forbid the two best players make the finals, amirite? i personally am not watching anymore, im not bitter thinking "better player lost omg joke game", the better players made it further, MKP and DRG are obviously sick good, but they dont hold any entertainment for me. i love watching foreigners.
And you and all of your kind do have to post this crap every time, every single tournament, why? Nobody ever posts saying they are not watching anymore, unless when the last white guy is knocked out. I'd like to understand why.
Does it feel better to throw a meaningless bitter jab to show that foreigners' pride is still there, even if their skills are not? Is it some kind of "you will have your prestige, money, and whatever comes with skill, but never popularity, unless you look like one of us" protest? Or maybe "A Korean may have won, but foreigners won in our hearts" statement? Which one is it?
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It would be the same scenario if there was a Korean white / mixed guy who was a top Starcraft player. I don't think "race" has anything to do with it. People just like to see top players from outside Korea, because they've typically been the underdogs.
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On June 11 2012 07:20 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 07:19 ES.Genie wrote:God I hate those foreigner biased people. Finally they are leaving this thread.  Pretty much this :D I love when foreigners get eliminated, half of the bullshit goes with them! No offense to foreign players, but the bias posters in LR threads are ridiculous.
Oh c'mon, I also root for foreigners and would like to see them do well and winning it all. I am glad for SaSe, Grubby, Socke, Stephano... It doesn't mean I wouldn't watch Korean scene or anything - in fact I have that monthly subscription and watch every GS(T)L VoD I just love to see foreigners winning (or you could say underdogs... that's why I root for Alicia now)
On the other hand, Alicia gogogo fighting! :-)
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On June 11 2012 07:21 Reval wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 07:20 iamthedave wrote:On June 11 2012 07:17 zerglingrodeo wrote:
I am consistently amazed/dismayed by the number of people in this forum who (claim to?) stop watching when the White People are gone. Glory to e-sports! This is the future! Seriously, I agree. It's pretty sad that people care more about foreigners winning than quality of play. True. How can you not like MKP/DRG, 2 incredibly good and charismatic players
It's not that, I'm super excited everytime I can see MKP against DRG, but we know Alicia will lose, and the finals starts at 2:0 because of extended series, so it's less exciting sadly.
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i really don't like alicia's pvt playstyle
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lol MKP used to loooove building bunkers, now he hates building them
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On June 11 2012 07:20 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 07:19 Sp00ly wrote:On June 11 2012 07:19 Kahmoon wrote:On June 11 2012 07:17 jmbthirteen wrote:On June 11 2012 07:15 busbarn wrote:
Why aren't they hosting MLG in korea yet, no one can possibly find korean top3 at every single event intresting? Yes I'm mad. I could watch MKP vs DRG all day long. They are the highest level TvZ's ever. If MLG was just a Bo500 between DRG and MKP played over 3 days, it would be way way better than any other tournament ever Sundance needs to make that happen. Bo501 would be better.
No, then one of them has to lose
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On June 11 2012 07:17 Valikyr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 07:14 L3g3nd_ wrote:On June 11 2012 07:10 bsball8806 wrote:On June 11 2012 07:07 SCST wrote:
And watch the viewership for MLG now drop to 8 people God forbid the two best players make the finals, amirite? i personally am not watching anymore, im not bitter thinking "better player lost omg joke game", the better players made it further, MKP and DRG are obviously sick good, but they dont hold any entertainment for me. i love watching foreigners. The only word that comes to mind seeing comments like this is "racist".
I have absolutely no idea how you came to that conclusion, Valikyr
Unfortunately my players lost earlier today, but I think I'll enjoy this top3. The level of play will compensate for their absence.
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On June 11 2012 07:24 Kkxtrouble wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 07:20 iamthedave wrote:On June 11 2012 07:17 zerglingrodeo wrote:
I am consistently amazed/dismayed by the number of people in this forum who (claim to?) stop watching when the White People are gone. Glory to e-sports! This is the future! Seriously, I agree. It's pretty sad that people care more about foreigners winning than quality of play. Yeah, it's like they're not there for the game but for who is playing it.Maybe the players should have flags instead of names =/.
Or maybe we are fans of certain people. The way SC2 is presented to us it is essentially like a country vs country thing(In this case Korea vs Everyone Else, so we end up cheering for the everyone else, the underdog. MKP vs DRG will get a lot of attention but do you blame people? Does everyone watch Olympic events that dont involve your country? Every Olympic event? Doubtful in most cases.
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On June 11 2012 07:24 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 07:24 Adreme wrote:On June 11 2012 07:22 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 11 2012 07:21 honed wrote:On June 11 2012 07:20 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 11 2012 07:20 Shadow_Dog wrote:
What are they basing that 91% off? MLG tournament or TLPD? I doubt that any player has a 91% winrate in the TLPD.  Jjakji My god. Its like the anti JYP. JYP has a 9% winrate? Not as far as I'm aware. But as far as I'm aware the man could ride a dragon to work and a polar bear on Tuesdays.
Your [JYP] PvT is rather terrible with a 9% win rate.
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On June 11 2012 07:20 iamthedave wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 07:17 zerglingrodeo wrote:
I am consistently amazed/dismayed by the number of people in this forum who (claim to?) stop watching when the White People are gone. Glory to e-sports! This is the future! Seriously, I agree. It's pretty sad that people care more about foreigners winning than quality of play.
I too agree that people being racists is bad for e-sport. But the quality of play is almost at the same level when we are talking about Stephano, SaSe and Socke compared to koreans so it doesn't really matter. So personally the only reason I'd root for a foreigner is because the are the underdogs and because SaSe is Swedish. 
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On June 11 2012 07:26 NeonFox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 07:21 Reval wrote:On June 11 2012 07:20 iamthedave wrote:On June 11 2012 07:17 zerglingrodeo wrote:
I am consistently amazed/dismayed by the number of people in this forum who (claim to?) stop watching when the White People are gone. Glory to e-sports! This is the future! Seriously, I agree. It's pretty sad that people care more about foreigners winning than quality of play. True. How can you not like MKP/DRG, 2 incredibly good and charismatic players It's not that, I'm super excited everytime I can see MKP against DRG, but we know Alicia will lose, and the finals starts at 2:0 because of extended series, so it's less exciting sadly.
They really need to have another look at the tournament structure. Not only does someone going through the losers bracket have to exhaust themselves to make it; Extended Series rules are just crap.
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On June 11 2012 07:24 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 07:24 Adreme wrote:On June 11 2012 07:22 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 11 2012 07:21 honed wrote:On June 11 2012 07:20 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 11 2012 07:20 Shadow_Dog wrote:
What are they basing that 91% off? MLG tournament or TLPD? I doubt that any player has a 91% winrate in the TLPD. Jjakji My god. Its like the anti JYP. JYP has a 9% winrate? Not as far as I'm aware. But as far as I'm aware the man could ride a dragon to work and a polar bear on Tuesdays.
He is doing significantly better in Korean PvT getting his record up to 8-29. It used to even worse than that so thats all that need be said.
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On June 11 2012 07:26 Kahmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 07:20 IntoTheheart wrote:On June 11 2012 07:19 Sp00ly wrote:On June 11 2012 07:19 Kahmoon wrote:On June 11 2012 07:17 jmbthirteen wrote:On June 11 2012 07:15 busbarn wrote:
Why aren't they hosting MLG in korea yet, no one can possibly find korean top3 at every single event intresting? Yes I'm mad. I could watch MKP vs DRG all day long. They are the highest level TvZ's ever. If MLG was just a Bo500 between DRG and MKP played over 3 days, it would be way way better than any other tournament ever Sundance needs to make that happen. Bo501 would be better. No, then one of them has to lose
It would be pretty amusing if they went 250-250 
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On June 11 2012 07:14 FuzzyJAM wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 07:13 SCST wrote:On June 11 2012 07:10 bsball8806 wrote:On June 11 2012 07:07 SCST wrote:
And watch the viewership for MLG now drop to 8 people God forbid the two best players make the finals, amirite? Doens't change the fact that everyone is tuning out except the hardcore SC2 crowd. I'll continue watching, but most people won't. Just a fact. Unless I've been totally misinformed, GSL gets well over 100,000 viewers every broadcast. I think there are enough people who value quality games over seeing white people that there will be more than 8 viewers.
Exactly, people get their Korean fix from the GSL.
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I'm not sure I really see Alicia holding this pressure
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On June 11 2012 07:22 MrKn4rz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 07:18 IamBach wrote:On June 11 2012 07:17 Valikyr wrote:On June 11 2012 07:14 L3g3nd_ wrote:On June 11 2012 07:10 bsball8806 wrote:On June 11 2012 07:07 SCST wrote:
And watch the viewership for MLG now drop to 8 people God forbid the two best players make the finals, amirite? i personally am not watching anymore, im not bitter thinking "better player lost omg joke game", the better players made it further, MKP and DRG are obviously sick good, but they dont hold any entertainment for me. i love watching foreigners. The only word that comes to mind seeing comments like this is "racist". So everyone who watches the Olympics for certain countries is a racist. While I dont agree with the racist comment. How can you even compare those two? At the Olympics its mostly about nations. In Starcraft its purely about the players. At least it should be.
Depends. The people that are /really/ into, say, Athletics should watch for the athletes, not for the US flag. The Olympics should (and are meant to be) about the individual athletes, not about the country they represent.
We all know that it doesn't work like that in practice, though.
And seriously, do you guys really think StarCraft would be popular in Korea if on average only 1 player per OSL was Korean? The fact that a surge in popularity of figure skating in Korea around 2008 and the emergence of Kim Yu Na happened at the same time must just be a coincidence and the only reason Koreans started caring is because the level of competition went up, right?
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