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Oboeman
Canada3980 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Kkxtrouble
Brazil575 Posts
On May 31 2012 12:35 Andrew2658 wrote: What happened to the Puma vs Nightend games? They will probably be played next week, i assume they were not played today because Puma has no other game today. | ||
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
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BathTubNZ
New Zealand2556 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On May 31 2012 12:32 Oboeman wrote: He played like this against violet at redbull, and I saw him doing it a bunch on ladder while he streamed. It blows my mind that it even works. I do kind of like the roach ling way better than trying to stay on pure ling until ultralisk, but still weird. He wins because his mechanics outclasses a lot of NA/EU players. His APM in the last Red Bull tournament averaged 377, and that is not spam - he had higher EPM than the Korean pros in that tournament. DRG is faster still, I think, but Stephano is closing the gap. With this speed and his precision, there's a lot he is able to get away with vs. NA/EU players. He is able to fight Haypro's baneling roach army because he is fast enough to separate lings to take out multiple banelings simultaneously while running the rest around. This style that he's playing is not doable without high APM and Stephano is abusing that to make it work. The problem, though, is that because his mechanics outclass NA/EU players he doesn't see the weaknesses in his build playing vs. them, and that comes back to him when he plays in big tournaments against top Korean pros. | ||
simmeh
Canada2511 Posts
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Warpish
834 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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ZeroSC2
Korea (South)668 Posts
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BathTubNZ
New Zealand2556 Posts
On May 31 2012 13:29 ZeroSC2 wrote: uhh, not looking too bright with Zenio out of shape for 2morrows match TL Tomorrow? it's in 5 hours time. | ||
Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On May 31 2012 13:29 ZeroSC2 wrote: uhh, not looking too bright with Zenio out of shape for 2morrows match TL Zenio's ZvT has always been mediocre and his big function for Liquid in GSTL is his ZvP (his ZvZ as well obviously, but they've got two other excellent options vs Z in Hero and Taeja). Liquid has other vT options with Taeja's TvT, Hero's PvT and possible snipes from TLO. | ||
OpticalPhonon
Canada72 Posts
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Phobbers
773 Posts
On May 31 2012 13:36 Orome wrote: Zenio's ZvT has always been mediocre and his big function for Liquid in GSTL is his ZvP (his ZvZ as well obviously, but they've got two other excellent options vs Z in Hero and Taeja). Liquid has other vT options with Taeja's TvT, Hero's PvT and possible snipes from TLO. I wouldn't even say it's mediocre, it's almost as bad as JYPvT. It's just painful to watch. But yeah, Zenio has some pretty strong ZvP and decent ZvZ. A lot of players tend to always have that one MU that makes them look kinda bleh at time. | ||
BathTubNZ
New Zealand2556 Posts
On May 31 2012 13:37 OpticalPhonon wrote: Great outro music. I remember they gave out a soundcloud page several weeks ago. Does anyone have a link to that? http://soundcloud.com/tropicool-official | ||
Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On May 31 2012 13:41 Phobbers wrote: I wouldn't even say it's mediocre, it's almost as bad as JYPvT. It's just painful to watch. But yeah, Zenio has some pretty strong ZvP and decent ZvZ. A lot of players tend to always have that one MU that makes them look kinda bleh at time. The thing about Zenio's ZvT is it seems to be almost purely an issue of understanding the matchup, not mechanics or execution. It's entirely possible I'm just too bad to see the underlying reasoning behind a lot of Zenio's decisions ZvT, but from what I can tell, his ZvT play completely lacks direction and logic. Pretty much the exact opposite of Ret's ZvT. | ||
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