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Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
May 31 2012 03:36 GMT
#61
I love this guy
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 31 2012 03:36 GMT
#62
Man, Nightend is so cool.
Moderator
Kkxtrouble
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil575 Posts
May 31 2012 03:37 GMT
#63
On May 31 2012 12:35 Andrew2658 wrote:
What happened to the Puma vs Nightend games?

They will probably be played next week, i assume they were not played today because Puma has no other game today.
I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
May 31 2012 03:40 GMT
#64
NightEnD is brilliant.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 03:41:41
May 31 2012 03:41 GMT
#65
Awww they should have asked him about the Code A qualifiers.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 03:46:43
May 31 2012 03:45 GMT
#66
On May 31 2012 12:32 Oboeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 12:29 BathTubNZ wrote:
On May 31 2012 12:27 Dexington wrote:
It really seems like Stephano is just fucking with Haypro in this game.


Yeah I was wondering if it was a bit of trolling on his part.


He played like this against violet at redbull, and I saw him doing it a bunch on ladder while he streamed. It blows my mind that it even works. I do kind of like the roach ling way better than trying to stay on pure ling until ultralisk, but still weird.


He wins because his mechanics outclasses a lot of NA/EU players. His APM in the last Red Bull tournament averaged 377, and that is not spam - he had higher EPM than the Korean pros in that tournament. DRG is faster still, I think, but Stephano is closing the gap.

With this speed and his precision, there's a lot he is able to get away with vs. NA/EU players. He is able to fight Haypro's baneling roach army because he is fast enough to separate lings to take out multiple banelings simultaneously while running the rest around. This style that he's playing is not doable without high APM and Stephano is abusing that to make it work.

The problem, though, is that because his mechanics outclass NA/EU players he doesn't see the weaknesses in his build playing vs. them, and that comes back to him when he plays in big tournaments against top Korean pros.
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
May 31 2012 03:59 GMT
#67
excellent play by cloud on dual sight
byah!
Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
May 31 2012 04:03 GMT
#68
Best game of the night so far.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 31 2012 04:04 GMT
#69
Bravo! Beautiful play, really emulating the multitasking and aggression of TvZ greats like MMA and MKP.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 04:25:13
May 31 2012 04:24 GMT
#70
Cloud demolished Zenio there, hit him at timings when he was transitioning. Great games by Cloud, and this is great for Stephano because he is now in second place and has a decent shot at staying there against NightEnd.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
May 31 2012 04:24 GMT
#71
Yeah, Cloud's tweet was definitely a spoiler.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 31 2012 04:24 GMT
#72
Cloud absolutely crushed Zenio this series. He simply played better on basically every aspect.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
May 31 2012 04:29 GMT
#73
uhh, not looking too bright with Zenio out of shape for 2morrows match TL
Flash
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
May 31 2012 04:29 GMT
#74
On May 31 2012 13:29 ZeroSC2 wrote:
uhh, not looking too bright with Zenio out of shape for 2morrows match TL


Tomorrow? it's in 5 hours time.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
May 31 2012 04:35 GMT
#75
Puma is qualified for the finals. He will at worst be 6-2, +7, so only Stephano can pass him.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
May 31 2012 04:36 GMT
#76
On May 31 2012 13:29 ZeroSC2 wrote:
uhh, not looking too bright with Zenio out of shape for 2morrows match TL


Zenio's ZvT has always been mediocre and his big function for Liquid in GSTL is his ZvP (his ZvZ as well obviously, but they've got two other excellent options vs Z in Hero and Taeja). Liquid has other vT options with Taeja's TvT, Hero's PvT and possible snipes from TLO.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
OpticalPhonon
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada72 Posts
May 31 2012 04:37 GMT
#77
Great outro music. I remember they gave out a soundcloud page several weeks ago. Does anyone have a link to that?
Phobbers
Profile Joined May 2011
773 Posts
May 31 2012 04:41 GMT
#78
On May 31 2012 13:36 Orome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 13:29 ZeroSC2 wrote:
uhh, not looking too bright with Zenio out of shape for 2morrows match TL


Zenio's ZvT has always been mediocre and his big function for Liquid in GSTL is his ZvP (his ZvZ as well obviously, but they've got two other excellent options vs Z in Hero and Taeja). Liquid has other vT options with Taeja's TvT, Hero's PvT and possible snipes from TLO.

I wouldn't even say it's mediocre, it's almost as bad as JYPvT. It's just painful to watch. But yeah, Zenio has some pretty strong ZvP and decent ZvZ. A lot of players tend to always have that one MU that makes them look kinda bleh at time.
EG/C9/ALL/TSM
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
May 31 2012 04:42 GMT
#79
On May 31 2012 13:37 OpticalPhonon wrote:
Great outro music. I remember they gave out a soundcloud page several weeks ago. Does anyone have a link to that?


http://soundcloud.com/tropicool-official
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
May 31 2012 05:05 GMT
#80
On May 31 2012 13:41 Phobbers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 13:36 Orome wrote:
On May 31 2012 13:29 ZeroSC2 wrote:
uhh, not looking too bright with Zenio out of shape for 2morrows match TL


Zenio's ZvT has always been mediocre and his big function for Liquid in GSTL is his ZvP (his ZvZ as well obviously, but they've got two other excellent options vs Z in Hero and Taeja). Liquid has other vT options with Taeja's TvT, Hero's PvT and possible snipes from TLO.

I wouldn't even say it's mediocre, it's almost as bad as JYPvT. It's just painful to watch. But yeah, Zenio has some pretty strong ZvP and decent ZvZ. A lot of players tend to always have that one MU that makes them look kinda bleh at time.


The thing about Zenio's ZvT is it seems to be almost purely an issue of understanding the matchup, not mechanics or execution. It's entirely possible I'm just too bad to see the underlying reasoning behind a lot of Zenio's decisions ZvT, but from what I can tell, his ZvT play completely lacks direction and logic. Pretty much the exact opposite of Ret's ZvT.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
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