• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:30
CET 01:30
KST 09:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros9[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win62025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!10BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION2Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams10Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest5
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four DreamHack Open 2013 revealed RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros
Tourneys
Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia Kirktown Chat Brawl #9 $50 8:30PM EST 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment
Brood War
General
What's going on with b.net? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Ladder Map Matchup Stats Map pack for 3v3/4v4/FFA games BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread The Perfect Game Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Big Programming Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
more word salad -- pay no h…
Peanutsc
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1547 users

[NASL] Week 8 Division 1 - Page 4

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
May 31 2012 03:36 GMT
#61
I love this guy
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 31 2012 03:36 GMT
#62
Man, Nightend is so cool.
Moderator
Kkxtrouble
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil575 Posts
May 31 2012 03:37 GMT
#63
On May 31 2012 12:35 Andrew2658 wrote:
What happened to the Puma vs Nightend games?

They will probably be played next week, i assume they were not played today because Puma has no other game today.
I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
May 31 2012 03:40 GMT
#64
NightEnD is brilliant.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 03:41:41
May 31 2012 03:41 GMT
#65
Awww they should have asked him about the Code A qualifiers.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 03:46:43
May 31 2012 03:45 GMT
#66
On May 31 2012 12:32 Oboeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 12:29 BathTubNZ wrote:
On May 31 2012 12:27 Dexington wrote:
It really seems like Stephano is just fucking with Haypro in this game.


Yeah I was wondering if it was a bit of trolling on his part.


He played like this against violet at redbull, and I saw him doing it a bunch on ladder while he streamed. It blows my mind that it even works. I do kind of like the roach ling way better than trying to stay on pure ling until ultralisk, but still weird.


He wins because his mechanics outclasses a lot of NA/EU players. His APM in the last Red Bull tournament averaged 377, and that is not spam - he had higher EPM than the Korean pros in that tournament. DRG is faster still, I think, but Stephano is closing the gap.

With this speed and his precision, there's a lot he is able to get away with vs. NA/EU players. He is able to fight Haypro's baneling roach army because he is fast enough to separate lings to take out multiple banelings simultaneously while running the rest around. This style that he's playing is not doable without high APM and Stephano is abusing that to make it work.

The problem, though, is that because his mechanics outclass NA/EU players he doesn't see the weaknesses in his build playing vs. them, and that comes back to him when he plays in big tournaments against top Korean pros.
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
May 31 2012 03:59 GMT
#67
excellent play by cloud on dual sight
byah!
Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
May 31 2012 04:03 GMT
#68
Best game of the night so far.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 31 2012 04:04 GMT
#69
Bravo! Beautiful play, really emulating the multitasking and aggression of TvZ greats like MMA and MKP.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 04:25:13
May 31 2012 04:24 GMT
#70
Cloud demolished Zenio there, hit him at timings when he was transitioning. Great games by Cloud, and this is great for Stephano because he is now in second place and has a decent shot at staying there against NightEnd.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
May 31 2012 04:24 GMT
#71
Yeah, Cloud's tweet was definitely a spoiler.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 31 2012 04:24 GMT
#72
Cloud absolutely crushed Zenio this series. He simply played better on basically every aspect.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
May 31 2012 04:29 GMT
#73
uhh, not looking too bright with Zenio out of shape for 2morrows match TL
Flash
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
May 31 2012 04:29 GMT
#74
On May 31 2012 13:29 ZeroSC2 wrote:
uhh, not looking too bright with Zenio out of shape for 2morrows match TL


Tomorrow? it's in 5 hours time.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
May 31 2012 04:35 GMT
#75
Puma is qualified for the finals. He will at worst be 6-2, +7, so only Stephano can pass him.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
May 31 2012 04:36 GMT
#76
On May 31 2012 13:29 ZeroSC2 wrote:
uhh, not looking too bright with Zenio out of shape for 2morrows match TL


Zenio's ZvT has always been mediocre and his big function for Liquid in GSTL is his ZvP (his ZvZ as well obviously, but they've got two other excellent options vs Z in Hero and Taeja). Liquid has other vT options with Taeja's TvT, Hero's PvT and possible snipes from TLO.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
OpticalPhonon
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada72 Posts
May 31 2012 04:37 GMT
#77
Great outro music. I remember they gave out a soundcloud page several weeks ago. Does anyone have a link to that?
Phobbers
Profile Joined May 2011
773 Posts
May 31 2012 04:41 GMT
#78
On May 31 2012 13:36 Orome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 13:29 ZeroSC2 wrote:
uhh, not looking too bright with Zenio out of shape for 2morrows match TL


Zenio's ZvT has always been mediocre and his big function for Liquid in GSTL is his ZvP (his ZvZ as well obviously, but they've got two other excellent options vs Z in Hero and Taeja). Liquid has other vT options with Taeja's TvT, Hero's PvT and possible snipes from TLO.

I wouldn't even say it's mediocre, it's almost as bad as JYPvT. It's just painful to watch. But yeah, Zenio has some pretty strong ZvP and decent ZvZ. A lot of players tend to always have that one MU that makes them look kinda bleh at time.
EG/C9/ALL/TSM
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
May 31 2012 04:42 GMT
#79
On May 31 2012 13:37 OpticalPhonon wrote:
Great outro music. I remember they gave out a soundcloud page several weeks ago. Does anyone have a link to that?


http://soundcloud.com/tropicool-official
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
May 31 2012 05:05 GMT
#80
On May 31 2012 13:41 Phobbers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 13:36 Orome wrote:
On May 31 2012 13:29 ZeroSC2 wrote:
uhh, not looking too bright with Zenio out of shape for 2morrows match TL


Zenio's ZvT has always been mediocre and his big function for Liquid in GSTL is his ZvP (his ZvZ as well obviously, but they've got two other excellent options vs Z in Hero and Taeja). Liquid has other vT options with Taeja's TvT, Hero's PvT and possible snipes from TLO.

I wouldn't even say it's mediocre, it's almost as bad as JYPvT. It's just painful to watch. But yeah, Zenio has some pretty strong ZvP and decent ZvZ. A lot of players tend to always have that one MU that makes them look kinda bleh at time.


The thing about Zenio's ZvT is it seems to be almost purely an issue of understanding the matchup, not mechanics or execution. It's entirely possible I'm just too bad to see the underlying reasoning behind a lot of Zenio's decisions ZvT, but from what I can tell, his ZvT play completely lacks direction and logic. Pretty much the exact opposite of Ret's ZvT.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
SC4ALL
14:00
SC4ALL - Day 1
Artosis645
PiGStarcraft486
RotterdaM371
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Artosis 645
PiGStarcraft486
RotterdaM 371
ProTech107
StarCraft: Brood War
NaDa 89
League of Legends
JimRising 29
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1644
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor169
Other Games
FrodaN3547
Grubby3421
summit1g3408
KnowMe200
WinterStarcraft143
Livibee72
ViBE66
Mew2King35
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1811
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 62
• RyuSc2 59
• musti20045 34
• davetesta20
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 13
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21480
League of Legends
• Doublelift4025
• Lourlo264
• HappyZerGling112
• Stunt92
Other Games
• Scarra1565
Upcoming Events
BSL Team A[vengers]
13h 31m
Cross vs Sobenz
Sziky vs IcaruS
SC4ALL
14h 31m
SC4ALL
14h 31m
BSL 21
18h 31m
Replay Cast
1d 8h
Wardi Open
1d 11h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 16h
Replay Cast
1d 22h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
IPSL
6 days
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
BSL 21 Team A
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
SC4ALL: Brood War
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

YSL S2
BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.