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whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 05:45:55
May 27 2012 05:44 GMT
#3961
I don't get it TT1, you are basically saying you will side with him no matter what he did in past and what he will do in future just because there is a chance he hurts himself out of possible depression cuz of negative community reaction to something which naturally community won't like/respect (hacking past, talking bullshit, arrogance, etc etc).

You are opening a different can of worms there.

That's probably nice of you, but If he wants support from SC community he just has to be nice and humble, nothing more nothing less.
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10035 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 05:52:37
May 27 2012 05:45 GMT
#3962
On May 27 2012 14:44 whiterabbit wrote:
I don't get it TT1, you are basically saying you will side with him no matter what he did in past and what he will do in future just because there is a chance he hurts himself out of possible depression cuz of negative community reaction to something which naturally community won't like/respect (hacking past, talking bullshit, arrogance, etc etc).

You are opening a different can of worms there.

If he wants support of SC community he just has to be nice and humble, nothing more nothing less.


yea ur right i should have rephrased that, i basically just wont hop on the flame train anymore. everyone else can have a fun ride

theres nothing to gain from it
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 27 2012 05:47 GMT
#3963
sheth Sheth Sheth!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
May 27 2012 05:47 GMT
#3964
Bomber trollin?
takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 05:50:56
May 27 2012 05:48 GMT
#3965
So I dont see the last shadow vs parting replay. Did he forfeit? It also says he only played 4 matches. If thats the case then its crap.
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
May 27 2012 05:49 GMT
#3966
Bomber got some SK Terran in my SC2 hahaha.

Mass Ravens always fun to see.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
May 27 2012 05:50 GMT
#3967
On May 27 2012 14:34 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 14:04 aznball123 wrote:
On May 27 2012 14:00 mTwTT1 wrote:
On May 27 2012 13:52 Silvertine wrote:
On May 27 2012 13:48 mTwTT1 wrote:
On May 27 2012 13:42 Aerisky wrote:
On May 27 2012 13:41 mTwTT1 wrote:
did lastshadow really delete his fb, youtube, twitter etc.? i feel really bad for being hard on him now but man hes so cocky and disrespectful, if ur reading this lastshadow im sorry! dont get down on yourself

Wow, did he really? I can understand though ;; he must feel like he's getting cyberbullied practically, epitome of being kicked when he's down ;__;


yea =/, im disgusted at myself cus everyone used to treat me the same way too so i know how he feels now =/. hes training his ass off in korea trying to succeed. in a way im sure hes trying to gain the community's approval and getting shat constantly would make any human being feel extremely depressed.. hope he doesnt do anything stupid to himself

Did you read any of the dozen responses to your last post? Those were all deleted hours and hours ago. It wasn't a reaction to his performance or comments made here.

It's also funny how fast you changed from insulting him horribly to being extremely sympathetic. Don't worry though, we'll pick up your slack.


im a softy, but honestly i wouldnt be surprised if someday a player commits suicide because of all the bullshit and hate they get from the community. yup i know it sounds stupid and most of u are thinking that im over exaggerating but ill make sure to remind you of this post once it happens

Tbh, anyone who talks shit and bms the shit out of everyone doesn't deserve respect from the community. If he wants to be accepted and supported, he can always drop the bullshit especially if he can't even back it up.


I feel the same way but i would be willing to forgo all that bs if its to help someone out, the shit were flaming him about is so retardedly insignificant if u look at it from a larger scope. Its important to us because we feel like our community and everything in it is the center of the universe but its actually quite meaningless and insignificant. If someones willing to sacrifice his life to become good at this game that pretty much means it obviously holds alot of value to him and not gaining the communitys approval might be something that weights heavily on him, you cant control how someone thinks/feels and they might end up doing something stupid to themselves.. obviously im overdramatizing this whole situation but who fucking knows man

i heard that hes been pretty depressed in the past, it even went as far as someone telling me he tried to do something stupid to himself, im not sure if what he told me was actually true but its enought to have me side with him from now on, if someone ever does something stupid to himself over such a meaningless things.. man i dunno wat i would do

Yes, learning how to forgive is an important aspect in life. I'm sure the community would be understanding enough to forgive him. We can't control how someone acts either, he just needs to learn from his mistakes and own up to it. Just like the professional world, you won't be taken seriously anywhere with bm.
Mmm, what to watch.
grapedog
Profile Joined August 2010
United States151 Posts
May 27 2012 05:50 GMT
#3968
On May 27 2012 14:39 Gojira621 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 14:32 grapedog wrote:
On May 27 2012 14:23 Gojira621 wrote:
On May 27 2012 14:18 grapedog wrote:
What is going to be the Protoss answer to Ret's last Brood/Infestory/Corruptor army when the vortex goes away?



watch Up and Down for Code S and you'll see.

(SPOILER FOR ONE MATCH IN UP AND DOWN)

Ace was playing boongboong and basically would attack with his deathball whereever the zerg army was not, including using multiple warp prisms to 2 or even 3 places at once, while his army was attacking other places or defending. When BoongBoong would use his main BL/Infestor/Corruptor army to go kill off the armies attacking his base, Ace would recall to where the mothership was, while continuing the annoying warp prism drops. He did this like 3 times and later ended up winning even though BoongBoong was able to make it extremely close. Since Nexus will have recall in HotS we can arguably say that is the future of dealing with BL/Infestor/Corruptor: attacking wherever that army clump is NOT located, then recalling when his army closes in. I got frustrated just watching BoongBoong try to deal with it. KiwiKaki used to do something like this too I think



So, the way to beat the zerg late game army is not to fight it? Is this Wargames all over again... the only way to win is not to play?

What happens when the zerg army you are trying to avoid just goes into your main and wrecks it... you're still supposed to recall your losing army right into the teeth of the winning zerg army?

I'm not sure how any of the HOTS changes are going to resolve the zerg late game deathball army issues that protoss have with zerg.


late game zerg armies in ZvP are very slow. He can't just show up in your main and wreck it without you having a good idea of what is going on, in which case you pull your army back and go for the vortex toilet win if you can. Meanwhile you have zealots wrecking his other bases and/or main, and possibly even storm drops going on as well. It does force the zerg into an immediate attack if his slow ass late game army is far away from his main/main structures, but if you hold it, the protoss SHOULD win because of all the damage that the warp prisms were doing



Vortex is going away in HOTS... so using that in your example of how to win is illogical.
At the end of the game, the king and the pawn go in the same box.
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 05:52:38
May 27 2012 05:52 GMT
#3969
startale top 3 calling it now

edit: + sase make that top 4
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
May 27 2012 05:52 GMT
#3970
ostojiy forgot that you can't kill a terran, you can only make him leave.
BlindKill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia1508 Posts
May 27 2012 05:53 GMT
#3971
makes a ton of ravens, doesnt make ghosts o.O?
“Life is a grindstone, and whether it grinds a man down or polishes him up depends on the stuff he's made of.”
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
May 27 2012 05:55 GMT
#3972
On May 27 2012 14:52 polyphonyEX wrote:
startale top 3 calling it now

edit: + sase make that top 4


Sase and Naniwa are living in ST's house, right ? With Squirtle, Parting and Ace, that's a pretty gross P lineup.
Terran & Potato Salad.
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
May 27 2012 05:56 GMT
#3973
PEwpewpew Battlecruisers! :3
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
May 27 2012 05:57 GMT
#3974
Also PF rush, Trollber!
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 27 2012 05:58 GMT
#3975
Wow bomber really knows how to play split map TvZ.
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 27 2012 05:59 GMT
#3976
That must be the proudest marine ever, took out an ultra all by himself.
Glorious SEA doto
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
May 27 2012 05:59 GMT
#3977
On May 27 2012 14:45 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 14:44 whiterabbit wrote:
I don't get it TT1, you are basically saying you will side with him no matter what he did in past and what he will do in future just because there is a chance he hurts himself out of possible depression cuz of negative community reaction to something which naturally community won't like/respect (hacking past, talking bullshit, arrogance, etc etc).

You are opening a different can of worms there.

If he wants support of SC community he just has to be nice and humble, nothing more nothing less.


yea ur right i should have rephrased that, i basically just wont hop on the flame train from now on. everyone else can have a fun ride

theres nothing to gain from it


I agree, jumping on flame train is mostly just people taking cheap shots against player they don't like. But also, it is kinda okey for community to moderately call out people when they deserve it. And to be honest LS deserved some hate, he is responsible for negativity surrounding him.

I just hope he didn't forfeit last match against PartinG and that he will go back to hard practice, clean his act a bit and come back to some event with much better show of his skills.
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
Gojira621
Profile Joined October 2010
United States374 Posts
May 27 2012 05:59 GMT
#3978
On May 27 2012 14:50 grapedog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 14:39 Gojira621 wrote:
On May 27 2012 14:32 grapedog wrote:
On May 27 2012 14:23 Gojira621 wrote:
On May 27 2012 14:18 grapedog wrote:
What is going to be the Protoss answer to Ret's last Brood/Infestory/Corruptor army when the vortex goes away?



watch Up and Down for Code S and you'll see.

(SPOILER FOR ONE MATCH IN UP AND DOWN)

Ace was playing boongboong and basically would attack with his deathball whereever the zerg army was not, including using multiple warp prisms to 2 or even 3 places at once, while his army was attacking other places or defending. When BoongBoong would use his main BL/Infestor/Corruptor army to go kill off the armies attacking his base, Ace would recall to where the mothership was, while continuing the annoying warp prism drops. He did this like 3 times and later ended up winning even though BoongBoong was able to make it extremely close. Since Nexus will have recall in HotS we can arguably say that is the future of dealing with BL/Infestor/Corruptor: attacking wherever that army clump is NOT located, then recalling when his army closes in. I got frustrated just watching BoongBoong try to deal with it. KiwiKaki used to do something like this too I think



So, the way to beat the zerg late game army is not to fight it? Is this Wargames all over again... the only way to win is not to play?

What happens when the zerg army you are trying to avoid just goes into your main and wrecks it... you're still supposed to recall your losing army right into the teeth of the winning zerg army?

I'm not sure how any of the HOTS changes are going to resolve the zerg late game deathball army issues that protoss have with zerg.


late game zerg armies in ZvP are very slow. He can't just show up in your main and wreck it without you having a good idea of what is going on, in which case you pull your army back and go for the vortex toilet win if you can. Meanwhile you have zealots wrecking his other bases and/or main, and possibly even storm drops going on as well. It does force the zerg into an immediate attack if his slow ass late game army is far away from his main/main structures, but if you hold it, the protoss SHOULD win because of all the damage that the warp prisms were doing



Vortex is going away in HOTS... so using that in your example of how to win is illogical.


I wasn't talking about how to win, I was just responding to his claim of "if i avoid the zerg deathball he can just wipe out my main ez" And while Vortex is going away in HotS, recall isn't, at least not yet, though I wish they would reconsider. I'm going to rage so hard playing ZvP when I have great positioning on a protoss army and they just all disappear over and over.
www.twitch.tv/Gojira621
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
May 27 2012 05:59 GMT
#3979
He needs to nydus mine the island!
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
May 27 2012 05:59 GMT
#3980
How many marines can brag about killing an ultra by itself? haha
Mmm, what to watch.
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