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Warpish
834 Posts
On May 23 2012 12:15 CeriseCherries wrote: damn azael is turning into a pretty good caster... decent knowledge too esp as he came from WoW iirc Agreed. Even more impressive if we take in consideration the extra effort required by solo casting. Good job. | ||
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Whatson
United States5357 Posts
On May 23 2012 12:15 chipmonklord17 wrote: The issue with mutas in zvz is the only way you can hold off roach/ling/bane agression is to have all the spine crawlers like azael is saying, however the only issue with that is its PAINFULLY obvious you're going for mutas when you have a 5 spine wall Is there no way to incorporate only a few mutas at a time and keep them hidden, or is that just going to end up dying to a roach push anways? (A terran/protoss player trying to get some ZvZ knowledge  ) | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On May 23 2012 12:21 Whatson wrote: Is there no way to incorporate only a few mutas at a time and keep them hidden, or is that just going to end up dying to a roach push anways? (A terran/protoss player trying to get some ZvZ knowledge )Really hard and risky to do, unless the other play is doing the same exact thing and you're both playing passive/defensive. Also, you don't want to risk adding a few at a time, because as soon as someone sees 1 muta they'll assume mutas are coming. You kind of need a reasonable sized flock as the initial surprise or you won't do enough damage and just fall behind. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On May 23 2012 12:21 Whatson wrote: Is there no way to incorporate only a few mutas at a time and keep them hidden, or is that just going to end up dying to a roach push anways? (A terran/protoss player trying to get some ZvZ knowledge )Too few mutas can be held off by queens, and if you delay the muta attack, the opponent can have time to get his infestors, which usually happens since infestors work better in the large army fights. But I'm no Nestea, and my explanation was relatively simple.  | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On May 23 2012 12:21 Whatson wrote: Is there no way to incorporate only a few mutas at a time and keep them hidden, or is that just going to end up dying to a roach push anways? (A terran/protoss player trying to get some ZvZ knowledge )Between overlords and speedlings hiding anything in ZvZ is just a ticking timebomb, and if youre going mutas anyway you'll have such little everything else (which is the need for the spine wall) you die to roach pushes | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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Quasimoto3000
United States471 Posts
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
So they're pretty much out at this point. | ||
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RUS RO DAH!!!
United States277 Posts
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FataLe
New Zealand4529 Posts
but the echo-effect they use when they announce the players just sounds cheesy & stupid. I cringe everytime. Otherwise, awesome! | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On May 23 2012 12:28 Quasimoto3000 wrote: Zenio has been the most disappointing player for me. I've been following him pretty heavily since liquid picked him up. Aside from that single all kill, he has been sucking in team leagues. yeah man. That all-kill was one of the only times that he has ever won a teamleague series T_T he just does terribly in team leagues :/ Liquid really needs to use ret more that him in the teamleagues. Not hating on Zenio though, outside of his team league woes, he is a great player | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
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Swords
6038 Posts
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
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Whatson
United States5357 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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Sareth
Germany1008 Posts
One player wins by a landslide. Story of my PvP. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On May 23 2012 12:38 FataLe wrote: It's probably been said before and it's only a minor thing.. but the echo-effect they use when they announce the players just sounds cheesy & stupid. I cringe everytime. Otherwise, awesome! thats the point. i came to watch the clan war. i stayed to hear Sir Scoot's introductions | ||
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