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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
May 19 2012 10:40 GMT
#4401
And now MVP proxy 2 raxxes and kills squirtle.
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
May 19 2012 10:40 GMT
#4402
On May 19 2012 19:33 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 19:32 Sapphire.lux wrote:
On May 19 2012 19:29 SolidMoose wrote:
So I guess that settles it. MVP has 100% undoubtedly proved that BCs are just not viable in this matchup. Terran continues to have no T3

BCs are great. The Archon Toilet thing is...


Fantastic game

BCs are only great when you can turtle up like that. Its a very map-based build. Try doing that on say Tal'Darim Altar. It would be really impossible because the Protoss can start taking bases which you can't harrass and it's like 100 times harder to defend your own expoes there.

Oh no doubt. I meant they were very good for that map, at that point in time. It's not the weakness of BCs that lost him the game. Archon Toilet is "avoidable" with emp, but "i win" button if you don't. Not crying Imba, but abilities like this are bad. Much better to see a long micro intensive battle then a "one trick one win" stuff.
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 10:41:27
May 19 2012 10:40 GMT
#4403
hmm seeing those korean unit names I started thinking what the SCII unit names in Dutch would be o.0

We don't even have a translation for like 80% of the units I think, just the English version

edit:
well there are 'translations' ofc but they are so retarded no1 would ever use them
Severus_
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
759 Posts
May 19 2012 10:40 GMT
#4404
I'm really disappointed right now.....Why he didn't make ravens ? Seeker,emp shits on everything P can produce except maybe robo units which can't attack air. Stop whining about balance because you can see both of them had no experience of this kind of late game. Squirtle traping his units etc giving timing of MVP to kill his bases then him throwing that timing away. Massing one unit like BGH. Atleast thats my opinion when the game developes we will have more of this games and it will be even more epic.
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
May 19 2012 10:40 GMT
#4405
Come on Squirtle, tie it up 3:3 and then take it. It's all I could ever hope for.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Girondelle
Profile Joined December 2010
France969 Posts
May 19 2012 10:40 GMT
#4406
GOGOGO MVP in 1-1-1 we trust !
Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia937 Posts
May 19 2012 10:40 GMT
#4407
Not a very exciting game for me, tbh. Aside from the fact that Squirtle suddenly turned it around. Doesn't make up for a 25min sloppy turtlefest...
brian2sk8t
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States192 Posts
May 19 2012 10:40 GMT
#4408
I despise people exterting themselves on being negative and complaining about balance and entertainment value, just watch ,and if you please to display your pessimistic opinions just dont watch.
Wasting time is such a waste of time
WickedBit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States343 Posts
May 19 2012 10:40 GMT
#4409
Great Game!! But I felt MVP had that game and lost it by not attacking at key points. Also is keeping an army split against late game toss that difficult for pros that have 300apm ?At one point he had a sick split of BCs where one vortex would have got line 2-3 of them max. He just needed that. After looking at that game it seems late game BC switch is a fairly effective strategy against P as long as he doesn't let BCs get vortexed. Can always use yamatos and EMP to counter void rays.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
May 19 2012 10:40 GMT
#4410
On May 19 2012 19:36 Barkziee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 19:35 Cinim wrote:
On May 19 2012 19:32 Mentalizor wrote:
On May 19 2012 19:31 Misoza wrote:
On May 19 2012 19:29 opterown wrote:
Poll: Rate Mvp vs. Squirtle Game 5

★★★★★ (934)
 
93%

★ (52)
 
5%

★★★★ (13)
 
1%

★★★ (8)
 
1%

★★ (2)
 
0%

1009 total votes

Your vote: Rate Mvp vs. Squirtle Game 5

(Vote): ★★★★★
(Vote): ★★★★
(Vote): ★★★
(Vote): ★★
(Vote): ★




Why do so many people rate it only 1 star?


6 % isn't many. But, many peoples rating 5 starts, rest is like.. ''this simcity, I don't like..''

Some people think constant aggression is the only kind of fun


It was a great game, if you can't get involved with the hype and excitement then I don't see why you watch


It was a good game until MVP decided to go excessive BCs and try to be a showman. It turned into a very boring game with absolutely no substance. I really hope this comes back to bite MVP and he loses 3-4. He had that game won.

This coming from someone who was rooting for MVP.
sc2guy
Profile Joined November 2010
291 Posts
May 19 2012 10:40 GMT
#4411
On May 19 2012 19:32 Hyperionnn wrote:
I hate this sc2 "community", still whining and trying to prove that their race sucks

Grow up morons, stop whining and just fucking watch the game


might as well hate the human race
✿◕‿◕✿ Taeng
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 19 2012 10:40 GMT
#4412
#GSL now trending worldwide
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
May 19 2012 10:40 GMT
#4413
On May 19 2012 19:40 Fragile51 wrote:
And now MVP proxy 2 raxxes and kills squirtle.

please
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
May 19 2012 10:40 GMT
#4414
GOMTV production ahs become so sick since the open season events, they're really doing an amazing job.
Giku
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands368 Posts
May 19 2012 10:40 GMT
#4415
It's not the fact it was so action packed, but the tension rises up way harder then if you have constant battles, if you don't realize that, go play CoD
Let the music be the fuse that'll spark my soul
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
May 19 2012 10:40 GMT
#4416
On May 19 2012 19:40 Fragile51 wrote:
And now MVP proxy 2 raxxes and kills squirtle.


Oh he totally will/should cheese in some way.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 19 2012 10:40 GMT
#4417
Poll: ARE YOOUOUUU HYPPEEDDD

MVPPPPPP (56)
 
49%

SQUIRTLLEEEE (22)
 
19%

FUCK YES (16)
 
14%

FUCKKK YEAAAA (16)
 
14%

YEAHHHH (5)
 
4%

115 total votes

Your vote: ARE YOOUOUUU HYPPEEDDD

(Vote): FUCK YES
(Vote): YEAHHHH
(Vote): MVPPPPPP
(Vote): SQUIRTLLEEEE
(Vote): FUCKKK YEAAAA

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SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
May 19 2012 10:40 GMT
#4418
On May 19 2012 19:37 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 19:36 sToFu wrote:
On May 19 2012 19:33 Sajiki wrote:
On May 19 2012 19:32 Mentalizor wrote:
On May 19 2012 19:31 Misoza wrote:
On May 19 2012 19:29 opterown wrote:
Poll: Rate Mvp vs. Squirtle Game 5

★★★★★ (934)
 
93%

★ (52)
 
5%

★★★★ (13)
 
1%

★★★ (8)
 
1%

★★ (2)
 
0%

1009 total votes

Your vote: Rate Mvp vs. Squirtle Game 5

(Vote): ★★★★★
(Vote): ★★★★
(Vote): ★★★
(Vote): ★★
(Vote): ★




Why do so many people rate it only 1 star?

mvp lost

Because, honestly, the Archon toilet is a bit (what am I kidding, incredibly) strong. There's a reason Blizzard gave the 1/2 second invulnerability. Unfortunately, air units don't collide. This is one of the major drawbacks of SC2: Protoss losing almost invariably results in turtling for archon/mothership and going for a toilet - whether vs broodlords or battlecruisers.

Honestly, I think arbiter stasis is a much better mechanic than vortex.


Man, terran has EMP. EMP that freaking huge hero unit and you have won. Why whine when it has a counter?


Stop saying this. It's simply untrue. Without Yamato MVP had no chance to win. He either needed as many Yamatos as he could land or literally perfect EMPs. Besides, having to EMP your own units because they are worth less than the damage you take from feedback is ridiculous.
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
May 19 2012 10:40 GMT
#4419
how many times do i have to hear "last map is protoss-FAVORED!"
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
May 19 2012 10:40 GMT
#4420
Proxy rax or 111 go go go
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
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