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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 03:08:32
May 08 2012 03:06 GMT
#121
On May 08 2012 12:01 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 11:59 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On May 08 2012 11:50 Type|NarutO wrote:
On May 08 2012 11:45 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On May 08 2012 11:36 Bagration wrote:
On May 08 2012 11:34 CosmicSpiral wrote:
People thought Jinro would lose to Cloud in his strongest matchup? Pssssssshh.


More surprising was Zenio losing 0-2 in his strongest matchup :|


ZvZ cross-server, and Zenio's ZvZ was always a bit...odd.


Cross-server for both of them.


When did I ever say the delay was one-sided in Darkforce's favor?


He mentioned that it was suprising that Zenio lost 0-2 in his strongest match up. First point you named was 'cross-server ZvZ' ... and you want to make us believe, you didn't mean he had a disadvantage with your statement? Come on. That was MORE than obvious.

If it wasn't your intention, you should make a better statement than that.


Cross-server always hurts both players, but it hurts Zenio more because his ZvZ playstyle relies on aggressive army control over strategy/pure mechanics. So unless those games were 30 minute macro wars (and from this thread, it doesn't sound like it) Zenio would have a disadvantage he's not used to.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
May 08 2012 03:09 GMT
#122
On May 08 2012 12:06 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 12:01 Type|NarutO wrote:
On May 08 2012 11:59 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On May 08 2012 11:50 Type|NarutO wrote:
On May 08 2012 11:45 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On May 08 2012 11:36 Bagration wrote:
On May 08 2012 11:34 CosmicSpiral wrote:
People thought Jinro would lose to Cloud in his strongest matchup? Pssssssshh.


More surprising was Zenio losing 0-2 in his strongest matchup :|


ZvZ cross-server, and Zenio's ZvZ was always a bit...odd.


Cross-server for both of them.


When did I ever say the delay was one-sided in Darkforce's favor?


He mentioned that it was suprising that Zenio lost 0-2 in his strongest match up. First point you named was 'cross-server ZvZ' ... and you want to make us believe, you didn't mean he had a disadvantage with your statement? Come on. That was MORE than obvious.

If it wasn't your intention, you should make a better statement than that.


Cross-server always hurts both players, but it hurts Zenio more because his ZvZ playstyle relies on aggressive army control over strategy/pure mechanics. So unless those games were 30 minute macro wars (and from this thread, it doesn't sound like it) Zenio would have a disadvantage he's not used to.


Zenio lost a 15 hatch 15 or even 16 pool against a 10 pool drone pull + spine rush first game.
Zenio lost a macro game where he split up his army and lost both parts of it to the main army of DF.

None of those games were gimmicky ling/baneling encounters... so, he didn't lose because of delay.
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tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
May 08 2012 03:26 GMT
#123
Nice game Taeja, Socke was too ez for him lol
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45175 Posts
May 08 2012 03:27 GMT
#124
Solid play from Taeja in game one.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
May 08 2012 03:27 GMT
#125
Everyone can lose, even when they are playing their best matchup. Zenio just lost. That's it. It happens sometimes.
Gandalf on balance: "It's always darkest before the dawn"
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 08 2012 03:28 GMT
#126
Why does TL keep sending out Zenio? I mean, he is really good solo, but in team matches he really seems to do poorly. He loses to EVERYBODY, it feels like :/
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 08 2012 03:31 GMT
#127
On May 08 2012 12:28 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Why does TL keep sending out Zenio? I mean, he is really good solo, but in team matches he really seems to do poorly. He loses to EVERYBODY, it feels like :/


He's 2-6 this season, with both wins against Empire (Beasty and then Kas in the ace match).
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 08 2012 03:31 GMT
#128
oh incontrol! obviously he's going to build a reaper and win immediatly.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
May 08 2012 03:35 GMT
#129
Socke
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 08 2012 03:39 GMT
#130
oh god! incontrol within seconds of KILLING ESPORTS by removing his shirt.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45175 Posts
May 08 2012 03:40 GMT
#131
On May 08 2012 12:39 kerpal wrote:
oh god! incontrol within seconds of KILLING ESPORTS by removing his shirt.


Psh instant Nada's Body 2.0
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FlyingTurtle
Profile Joined February 2012
United States248 Posts
May 08 2012 03:46 GMT
#132
Ace match :D
"This creature is the completion of a cycle. Its role in the cosmic order was preordained when the stars were young. Behold the culmination of your history." -Samir Duran, on the Hybrid
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
May 08 2012 03:47 GMT
#133
Socke always carrying atn
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 03:49:33
May 08 2012 03:47 GMT
#134
Smashed!

On May 08 2012 12:47 00Visor wrote:
Socke always carrying atn


Like when he lost to ToD, JYP, Select, tgun, Thorzain and Kas.^^
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
May 08 2012 03:48 GMT
#135
Could TaeJa play more greedy? Well played by Socke this series.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
dangerjoe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark1866 Posts
May 08 2012 03:48 GMT
#136
Very nice by Socke! Taeja is no scrub
Ask Beavis, I get nothing Butt-head
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
May 08 2012 03:48 GMT
#137
Gooood joooooob SOCKEH!!!!!!!!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 08 2012 03:50 GMT
#138
I don't like the ace choice by aTn against Taeja. He is usually so incredibly good in TvZ.
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
May 08 2012 03:52 GMT
#139
On May 08 2012 12:48 Stress wrote:
Could TaeJa play more greedy? Well played by Socke this series.

There was really nothing greedy there... CC first is not really a greedy build because it is hard to punish similar to the way nexus first is only a slight risk. Also the third CC was at a standard timing
~~~Liquid Fighting (SC2)~~~
FlyingTurtle
Profile Joined February 2012
United States248 Posts
May 08 2012 03:53 GMT
#140
Boo, I wanted to see TLO or Sheth (or HEROOOOO......) for Liquid's ace.
"This creature is the completion of a cycle. Its role in the cosmic order was preordained when the stars were young. Behold the culmination of your history." -Samir Duran, on the Hybrid
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