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On April 27 2012 13:31 entropius wrote:
Mana as the ace rather than Thorzain? Nothing against Mana, but Thorzain is ... Thorzain. He's probably the second best foreigner in the world behind Stephano.
Probably a mindgame. GanZi beat MaNa first up, but GanZi is clearly going to be ace, and his worst matchup is TvP, and his TvT is very strong.
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Bah, would have rather seen
ThorZaIN 2:0
GanZi 2:0
NaDa 2:1
biGs 2:1
NaDa 1:2 ThorZaIN
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On April 27 2012 13:24 Falconblade wrote:
Heart would be more likable as a spectator if he didn't all-in every single game. We have many cheesy players that are well liked, mainly because they have a strong macro game when they want to (MMA?) but are capable of going for the all-in to mix things up.
I don't think you follow the scene very well, MMA is not a cheesy player and Heart has a strong macro game as well.
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Sigh, no thorzain for the ace match? Meh, its late, I'm tired, not gonna stay up for that. No offense mana.
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If Ganzi shored up his micro he would have one of the best TvPs in the world (and one of the best TvZs).
On April 27 2012 13:35 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 13:24 Falconblade wrote:
Heart would be more likable as a spectator if he didn't all-in every single game. We have many cheesy players that are well liked, mainly because they have a strong macro game when they want to (MMA?) but are capable of going for the all-in to mix things up. I don't think you follow the scene very well, MMA is not a cheesy player and Heart has a strong macro game as well.
Actually MMA can be really cheesy, but he's very strategic with his all-ins.
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On April 27 2012 13:35 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 13:24 Falconblade wrote:
Heart would be more likable as a spectator if he didn't all-in every single game. We have many cheesy players that are well liked, mainly because they have a strong macro game when they want to (MMA?) but are capable of going for the all-in to mix things up. I don't think you follow the scene very well, MMA is not a cheesy player and Heart has a strong macro game as well.
MMA can be very cheesy when he wants, but he has excellent Macro when he wants it. GST October, Blizz Cup finals come to mind. He's excellent at choosing the best time to cheese. G1 vs. Mvp in GSL finals? Etc. etc.
And Heart is very all-in based, that was the main gripe with him during MLG.
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On April 27 2012 13:39 CosmicSpiral wrote:If Ganzi shored up his micro he would have one of the best TvPs in the world (and one of the best TvZs). Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 13:35 Hall0wed wrote:On April 27 2012 13:24 Falconblade wrote:
Heart would be more likable as a spectator if he didn't all-in every single game. We have many cheesy players that are well liked, mainly because they have a strong macro game when they want to (MMA?) but are capable of going for the all-in to mix things up. I don't think you follow the scene very well, MMA is not a cheesy player and Heart has a strong macro game as well. Actually MMA can be really cheesy, but he's very strategic with his all-ins.
All-in =/= cheese. I'll just assume we have different definitions of both these words so I won't bother arguing. =P
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On April 27 2012 13:39 CosmicSpiral wrote:If Ganzi shored up his micro he would have one of the best TvPs in the world (and one of the best TvZs). Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 13:35 Hall0wed wrote:On April 27 2012 13:24 Falconblade wrote:
Heart would be more likable as a spectator if he didn't all-in every single game. We have many cheesy players that are well liked, mainly because they have a strong macro game when they want to (MMA?) but are capable of going for the all-in to mix things up. I don't think you follow the scene very well, MMA is not a cheesy player and Heart has a strong macro game as well. Actually MMA can be really cheesy, but he's very strategic with his all-ins.
Hes certainly not far away from the best Terrans, but what holds him back imo is the team. doubt he got a teamhouse to practice right now, and Heart and NaDa, while good arent top tier players either.
fnatic would have been the better choice.
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On April 27 2012 13:56 GodOfWar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 13:39 CosmicSpiral wrote:If Ganzi shored up his micro he would have one of the best TvPs in the world (and one of the best TvZs). On April 27 2012 13:35 Hall0wed wrote:On April 27 2012 13:24 Falconblade wrote:
Heart would be more likable as a spectator if he didn't all-in every single game. We have many cheesy players that are well liked, mainly because they have a strong macro game when they want to (MMA?) but are capable of going for the all-in to mix things up. I don't think you follow the scene very well, MMA is not a cheesy player and Heart has a strong macro game as well. Actually MMA can be really cheesy, but he's very strategic with his all-ins. Hes certainly not far away from the best Terrans, imo what holds him back is the team. doubt he got a teamhouse to practice right now, and Heart and NaDa arent top tier players either. fnatic would have been the better choice.
Ganzi and Alive in the same team? *drools*
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Hes certainly not far away from the best Terrans, but what holds him back imo is the team. doubt he got a teamhouse to practice right now, and Heart and NaDa, while good arent top tier players either.
fnatic would have been the better choice.
Ok, I can see the comment about NaDa (a bit) because he's slumping. But Heart just finished 3rd and Columbus and Top 4 at Spring Arena (basically an all-star type event). Not top tier? Wake up.
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On April 27 2012 14:00 jlake02 wrote:Show nested quote +
Hes certainly not far away from the best Terrans, but what holds him back imo is the team. doubt he got a teamhouse to practice right now, and Heart and NaDa, while good arent top tier players either.
fnatic would have been the better choice.
Ok, I can see the comment about NaDa (a bit) because he's slumping. But Heart just finished 3rd and Columbus and Top 4 at Spring Arena (basically an all-star type event). Not top tier? Wake up.
well GanZi is the strongest player of coL, but in order to become considered Top 3 Terran, he would need to practice with a even stronger player than him.
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On April 27 2012 14:00 jlake02 wrote:Show nested quote +
Hes certainly not far away from the best Terrans, but what holds him back imo is the team. doubt he got a teamhouse to practice right now, and Heart and NaDa, while good arent top tier players either.
fnatic would have been the better choice.
Ok, I can see the comment about NaDa (a bit) because he's slumping. But Heart just finished 3rd and Columbus and Top 4 at Spring Arena (basically an all-star type event). Not top tier? Wake up.
Heart is a fantastic player, I was hyping him back when he was an unknown and was getting like 30 viewers on his stream. People that think otherwise just don't truly enjoy Starcraft and/or are delusional.
Ganzi is the boss though, love that man.
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Mouz probably should've picked Thorzain for Ace.
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On April 27 2012 14:11 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 14:00 jlake02 wrote:
Hes certainly not far away from the best Terrans, but what holds him back imo is the team. doubt he got a teamhouse to practice right now, and Heart and NaDa, while good arent top tier players either.
fnatic would have been the better choice.
Ok, I can see the comment about NaDa (a bit) because he's slumping. But Heart just finished 3rd and Columbus and Top 4 at Spring Arena (basically an all-star type event). Not top tier? Wake up. Heart is a fantastic player, I was hyping him back when he was an unknown and was getting like 30 viewers on his stream. People that think otherwise just don't truly enjoy Starcraft and/or are delusional.
Get laid.
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On April 27 2012 13:31 entropius wrote:
Mana as the ace rather than Thorzain? Nothing against Mana, but Thorzain is ... Thorzain. He's probably the second best foreigner in the world behind Stephano.
Probably not.
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Is Morrow still in Korea? Is that why he didn't play?
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Ganzi 4-0ing Mana tonight... sheesh x.x
Congratulations to Complexity!
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On April 27 2012 14:00 jlake02 wrote:Show nested quote +
Hes certainly not far away from the best Terrans, but what holds him back imo is the team. doubt he got a teamhouse to practice right now, and Heart and NaDa, while good arent top tier players either.
fnatic would have been the better choice.
Ok, I can see the comment about NaDa (a bit) because he's slumping. But Heart just finished 3rd and Columbus and Top 4 at Spring Arena (basically an all-star type event). Not top tier? Wake up.
Heart played well for such a short period of time. Since his last accomplishment, he hasn't played very well at all. Not top tier.
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On April 27 2012 14:28 how2TL wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 13:31 entropius wrote:
Mana as the ace rather than Thorzain? Nothing against Mana, but Thorzain is ... Thorzain. He's probably the second best foreigner in the world behind Stephano. Probably not.
ThorZain has been beasting up this month quite a bit, easily best Foreign-Terran.
I think the Top 3 Foreigners are Stephano, NaNiwa and ThorZain
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well GanZi is the strongest player of coL, but in order to become considered Top 3 Terran, he would need to practice with a even stronger player than him.
Judging by player interviews, they play with people outside of their teams a lot. Especially now that we have so many koreans on foreign teams. I wouldn't be surprise if players like MC, GanZi, aLive practice with each other.
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