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On April 26 2012 14:08 ninjamyst wrote:HerO's track record against Puma isn't so great. I would think Taeja is a better choice but maybe after loosing to Huk, he didn't feel confident to win against Puma?
Actually, HerO's been doing well against Puma recently. And Hero's most recent PvTs are superior overall to Puma's TvPs, they're just saving him and Taeja for their code S matches and I'd do the same thing in their place.
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On April 26 2012 14:10 GodOfWar wrote:
well now ret is quite a shocking move, i hope this pays out well.
Taeja would have that in the bag against Puma tbh, I mean he just beat MKP today !
Keep in mind these are replays and who knows how old they are.
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Wish it was a Puma vs Hero rematch ^__^
But TvZ is a lot more entertaining so I'm pretty satisfied with Puma vs Ret. Gonna be siiiick
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On April 26 2012 14:10 Torrc wrote:
Liquid picked ret so that he would have a lag advantage over EG. I wish they could play in the same lag.
Isn't it NA server? Does anyone have an advantage there?
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On April 26 2012 14:10 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 14:10 GodOfWar wrote:
well now ret is quite a shocking move, i hope this pays out well.
Taeja would have that in the bag against Puma tbh, I mean he just beat MKP today ! Keep in mind these are replays and who knows how old they are.
The idra match was from when he was in Korea, so these might be weeks old.
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On April 26 2012 14:11 ssg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 14:10 Torrc wrote:
Liquid picked ret so that he would have a lag advantage over EG. I wish they could play in the same lag. Isn't it NA server? Does anyone have an advantage there?
Europe to NA is hardly any lag. Korea to any other server is really laggy.
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Dutch Zerg fighting!!
I wonder if TaeJa wasn't fielded because of his Code S match. It's pretty sensible that HerO wasn't going to be fielded, given his PvT history against PewMa.
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On April 26 2012 14:09 ssg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 14:07 Falconblade wrote:
The koreans on Liquid must have not wanted to play. Mercenaries have no will.
Yeah, HerO has been really slacking in team leagues such as IPL TAC etc...
On the other hand. If EG plays HuK, Liquid probably will not want neither HerO nor Taeja. If EG plays Puma, Liquid probably does not want HerO while Taeja would have been fine. All in all Ret is a good choice against both; his ZvP is looking quite scary as well as having had some success against Puma head to head.
As I write this, I realized it is a good chance you were using a rather dry form of humor. Hmm.
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The choice for EG's ace is a massive mind game.
EG: TL is going to put out HerO, with Taeja behind. The best choice they have vs. those two is HuK.
TL: EG is going to put out HuK and, failing that, JYP. But because EG lost with JYP, and JYP sucks vs. Terran, the second choice is Puma. The best they have against HuK and Puma is Taeja, but because Taeja lost vs. HuK, and Ret is a god vs. Protoss and has decent ZvT against Puma's average TvZ, throwing out Ret is fine too.
TL's choice is fine. EG's is fine too, but in retrospect after knowing TL's ace.
Don't know how EG figured this out.
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On April 26 2012 14:12 ssg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 14:10 Dodgin wrote:On April 26 2012 14:10 GodOfWar wrote:
well now ret is quite a shocking move, i hope this pays out well.
Taeja would have that in the bag against Puma tbh, I mean he just beat MKP today ! Keep in mind these are replays and who knows how old they are. The idra match was from when he was in Korea, so these might be weeks old.
probably
but Taeja is one of the best TvT in the world, probably the best next to aLive
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On April 26 2012 14:15 Azarkon wrote:
The choice for EG's ace is a massive mind game.
EG has to think that TL is going to put out HerO, with Taeja behind. The best choice they have vs. those two is HuK.
TL has to think that they EG is going to put out HuK and, failing that, JYP. But because EG lost with JYP, and JYP sucks vs. Terran, the second choice is Puma. The best they have against HuK and Puma is Taeja, but because Taeja lost vs. HuK, and Ret is a god vs. Protoss and has decent ZvT against Puma's average TvZ, throwing out Ret is fine too.
TL's choice makes sense. EG's makes sense too, but in retrospect after knowing TL's ace.
Don't know how EG figured this out.
I thought Puma was EG's favorite choice for ace. They usually call him over JYP or Huk it seems.
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That micro was insane from puma
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Lol, 12 drones, 12 or more lings and a queen for 4 hellions. Massive victory
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At 9 minutes into the game, Puma managed to keep up in the worker count with Ret.
That's how good his harrassment was. Holy shit.
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On April 26 2012 14:18 ssg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2012 14:15 Azarkon wrote:
The choice for EG's ace is a massive mind game.
EG has to think that TL is going to put out HerO, with Taeja behind. The best choice they have vs. those two is HuK.
TL has to think that they EG is going to put out HuK and, failing that, JYP. But because EG lost with JYP, and JYP sucks vs. Terran, the second choice is Puma. The best they have against HuK and Puma is Taeja, but because Taeja lost vs. HuK, and Ret is a god vs. Protoss and has decent ZvT against Puma's average TvZ, throwing out Ret is fine too.
TL's choice makes sense. EG's makes sense too, but in retrospect after knowing TL's ace.
Don't know how EG figured this out. I thought Puma was EG's favorite choice for ace. They usually call him over JYP or Huk it seems.
Yeah, and that's where the massive mind game is - TL chose thinking EG was going to choose to counter what they think TL is choosing, but EG didn't 
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On April 26 2012 14:15 Azarkon wrote:
The choice for EG's ace is a massive mind game.
EG: TL is going to put out HerO, with Taeja behind. The best choice they have vs. those two is HuK.
TL: EG is going to put out HuK and, failing that, JYP. But because EG lost with JYP, and JYP sucks vs. Terran, the second choice is Puma. The best they have against HuK and Puma is Taeja, but because Taeja lost vs. HuK, and Ret is a god vs. Protoss and has decent ZvT against Puma's average TvZ, throwing out Ret is fine too.
TL's choice is fine. EG's is fine too, but in retrospect after knowing TL's ace.
Don't know how EG figured this out.
dont read too deep into it, EGs choice was obvious, PuMa is their MVP.
TL messed up imo, by being a team that randomly thrusts the players who get most love from the community in order to stay the team that gets most sympathys.
they even could have won against fnatic if they didnt put Tyler against Moon but a better foreigner.
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Puma making ravens and researching seeker missile. Hmmm....
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Zerg at this stage tends to have so many resources that it's worth to double important tech like greater spire somewhere else on the map, just to avoid slowdown by such snipes - which are going to get more and more popular and effective imo.
edit: as i type this ret builds backup infestation pit ^^ thank you, ret
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Drops are picking Ret apart. Can't believe he couldn't cancel his hatch =/
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