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On April 25 2012 11:17 rasnj wrote: Ret is definitely favored vs JyP, and Zenio should be slightly favored vs Puma. emphasis mine because I don't understand this statement
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EG vs LIQUID!
matchup of epic proportions!
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I can see this going to an ace match. Both sides got on the wrong side of the draw with Zenio against Puma and Idra against Hero so that should be at least 1 win a piece. The other 2 matches should be pretty close with either team picking up the points. Puma will be sent as the Ace for EG and it will be up to Liquid to pick the right player to take him out
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Isnt jyp a beast vs. Z? Why would ret be favored
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On April 25 2012 11:37 mambar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 11:17 rasnj wrote: Ret is definitely favored vs JyP, and Zenio should be slightly favored vs Puma. emphasis mine because I don't understand this statement
Ret has sick ZvP and doesn't JYP have weak PvZ?
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On April 25 2012 11:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 11:37 mambar wrote:On April 25 2012 11:17 rasnj wrote: Ret is definitely favored vs JyP, and Zenio should be slightly favored vs Puma. emphasis mine because I don't understand this statement Ret has sick ZvP and doesn't JYP have weak PvZ? JYP has amazing PvZ haha
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JYP recently 2-0'd Seal in Code A where most people were expecting Seal to win. His PvZ is pretty good but stephano style seems to throw him off, as he lost to Stephano 2-1 in IPL. I'd say his PvZ is pretty good. Ret definitely has a chance of winning though.
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HuK < TaeJa TaeJa's TvP in his IPL4 run wasn't against any top-level players, but it still looked very solid. Add in the fact that HuK looked really off on his PvT in his Code A matches...Code S > Code B.
IdrA < HerO IdrA v Korean Code S Protoss. GG.
JYP > Ret This could go either way, but JYP 's PvZ in his Code A matches (against Seal, no less) looked a lot better than Genius's PvZ during his DH games against Ret. Closest of the 4 regular matches by far.
PuMa > Zenio PuMa TvZ by far his weakest matchup right now, but it's still much better than Zenio's most recent ZvT games. PuMa is also 4-0 against Zenio, with the most recent matches being kinda lopsided.
PuMa < TaeJa From everything I've seen during ESVs, Code A/S, on stream, TaeJa's bio and marine-tank TvT is much better than PuMa's as long as he doesn't get far behind due to early pressure. Most of PuMa's TvT succeeds and fails depending on how much damage he can do early game, so I'll take my chances with TaeJa being the better overall player.
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Losing to stephano doesn't say much about his PVZ. Haven't seen a protoss beat Stephano yet. (Inori doesn't count, Stephano said he was thrown off by the huge bracket with shitty players)
Is it just me or is this the first time HuK's been in a team fight?
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On April 25 2012 11:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 11:37 mambar wrote:On April 25 2012 11:17 rasnj wrote: Ret is definitely favored vs JyP, and Zenio should be slightly favored vs Puma. emphasis mine because I don't understand this statement Ret has sick ZvP and doesn't JYP have weak PvZ?
JYP is Korean and Ret isn't...
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On April 25 2012 12:14 snowfox330 wrote: Losing to stephano doesn't say much about his PVZ. Haven't seen a protoss beat Stephano yet. (Inori doesn't count, Stephano said he was thrown off by the huge bracket with shitty players)
Is it just me or is this the first time HuK's been in a team fight? Definitely one of the very few. He almost never participates in any team league games due to cross server latency issues.
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Hmm best players from both teams going at it, should be good.
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On April 25 2012 11:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 11:37 mambar wrote:On April 25 2012 11:17 rasnj wrote: Ret is definitely favored vs JyP, and Zenio should be slightly favored vs Puma. emphasis mine because I don't understand this statement Ret has sick ZvP and doesn't JYP have weak PvZ?
JYP has good PvZ, his PvT on the other hand...
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JYP's PvZ is his best matchup guys
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No one thinks Zenio will win? The last two games could go either way imo. Unfortunately for EG Huk and Idra got bad matchups for them so I think barring a big upset those wont go well for them. I think liquid wins with a few close matches
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I don't think anyone on EG can defeat Taeja, and I don't think IdrA can touch HerO so there is no way Liquid can lose this (assuming Taeja is used as the ace).
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On April 25 2012 11:37 mambar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 11:17 rasnj wrote: Ret is definitely favored vs JyP, and Zenio should be slightly favored vs Puma. emphasis mine because I don't understand this statement I guess definitely is an exaggeration, but I feel Ret will take it. Ret has great zvp and has really been on form lately; he looks much better than his results would suggests (especially than his vp at the winter mlgs suggest). JyP does have great zvp, but IMO it has been way too overhyped and is not really that special (sort of like Inca's pvp), and an online match with minimal preparation is completely different to a GSL match. In addition I'm assuming JyP is in Korea, while Ret is in EU which usually gives at least a slight advantage to the EU player in terms of latency.
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TaeJa to roflstomp HuK HerO to slaughter IdrA JYP to beat Ret PuMa to stomp Zenio
then TaeJa/HerO to win the ace match.
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On April 25 2012 12:15 ChrysaliS_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 11:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On April 25 2012 11:37 mambar wrote:On April 25 2012 11:17 rasnj wrote: Ret is definitely favored vs JyP, and Zenio should be slightly favored vs Puma. emphasis mine because I don't understand this statement Ret has sick ZvP and doesn't JYP have weak PvZ? JYP is Korean and Ret isn't... Ret has beaten lots of koreans
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On April 25 2012 13:15 mrtomjones wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 12:15 ChrysaliS_ wrote:On April 25 2012 11:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On April 25 2012 11:37 mambar wrote:On April 25 2012 11:17 rasnj wrote: Ret is definitely favored vs JyP, and Zenio should be slightly favored vs Puma. emphasis mine because I don't understand this statement Ret has sick ZvP and doesn't JYP have weak PvZ? JYP is Korean and Ret isn't... Ret has beaten lots of koreans
Ret HAS beaten koreans. To say he is favoured against the decent ones though is a little sketchy.
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