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mambar
Profile Joined February 2012
United States841 Posts
April 25 2012 02:37 GMT
#21
On April 25 2012 11:17 rasnj wrote:
Ret is definitely favored vs JyP, and Zenio should be slightly favored vs Puma.

emphasis mine because I don't understand this statement
theMiNUS
Profile Joined January 2011
United States333 Posts
April 25 2012 02:42 GMT
#22
EG vs LIQUID!

matchup of epic proportions!
not idly do the leaves of lorien fall...
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 02:44:45
April 25 2012 02:44 GMT
#23
I can see this going to an ace match. Both sides got on the wrong side of the draw with Zenio against Puma and Idra against Hero so that should be at least 1 win a piece. The other 2 matches should be pretty close with either team picking up the points. Puma will be sent as the Ace for EG and it will be up to Liquid to pick the right player to take him out
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1773 Posts
April 25 2012 02:45 GMT
#24
Isnt jyp a beast vs. Z? Why would ret be favored
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44465 Posts
April 25 2012 02:45 GMT
#25
On April 25 2012 11:37 mambar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 11:17 rasnj wrote:
Ret is definitely favored vs JyP, and Zenio should be slightly favored vs Puma.

emphasis mine because I don't understand this statement


Ret has sick ZvP and doesn't JYP have weak PvZ?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
mambar
Profile Joined February 2012
United States841 Posts
April 25 2012 02:47 GMT
#26
On April 25 2012 11:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 11:37 mambar wrote:
On April 25 2012 11:17 rasnj wrote:
Ret is definitely favored vs JyP, and Zenio should be slightly favored vs Puma.

emphasis mine because I don't understand this statement


Ret has sick ZvP and doesn't JYP have weak PvZ?

JYP has amazing PvZ haha
HotGlueGun
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1409 Posts
April 25 2012 02:50 GMT
#27
JYP recently 2-0'd Seal in Code A where most people were expecting Seal to win. His PvZ is pretty good but stephano style seems to throw him off, as he lost to Stephano 2-1 in IPL. I'd say his PvZ is pretty good. Ret definitely has a chance of winning though.
Don't hoot with the Owls at night if you cant soar with the Eagles at dawn.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
April 25 2012 03:11 GMT
#28
HuK < TaeJa
TaeJa's TvP in his IPL4 run wasn't against any top-level players, but it still looked very solid. Add in the fact that HuK looked really off on his PvT in his Code A matches...Code S > Code B.

IdrA < HerO
IdrA v Korean Code S Protoss. GG.

JYP > Ret
This could go either way, but JYP 's PvZ in his Code A matches (against Seal, no less) looked a lot better than Genius's PvZ during his DH games against Ret. Closest of the 4 regular matches by far.

PuMa > Zenio
PuMa TvZ by far his weakest matchup right now, but it's still much better than Zenio's most recent ZvT games. PuMa is also 4-0 against Zenio, with the most recent matches being kinda lopsided.

PuMa < TaeJa
From everything I've seen during ESVs, Code A/S, on stream, TaeJa's bio and marine-tank TvT is much better than PuMa's as long as he doesn't get far behind due to early pressure. Most of PuMa's TvT succeeds and fails depending on how much damage he can do early game, so I'll take my chances with TaeJa being the better overall player.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
snowfox330
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada61 Posts
April 25 2012 03:14 GMT
#29
Losing to stephano doesn't say much about his PVZ. Haven't seen a protoss beat Stephano yet. (Inori doesn't count, Stephano said he was thrown off by the huge bracket with shitty players)

Is it just me or is this the first time HuK's been in a team fight?
ChrysaliS_
Profile Joined January 2011
United States261 Posts
April 25 2012 03:15 GMT
#30
On April 25 2012 11:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 11:37 mambar wrote:
On April 25 2012 11:17 rasnj wrote:
Ret is definitely favored vs JyP, and Zenio should be slightly favored vs Puma.

emphasis mine because I don't understand this statement


Ret has sick ZvP and doesn't JYP have weak PvZ?


JYP is Korean and Ret isn't...
Chrysalis.145
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
April 25 2012 03:17 GMT
#31
On April 25 2012 12:14 snowfox330 wrote:
Losing to stephano doesn't say much about his PVZ. Haven't seen a protoss beat Stephano yet. (Inori doesn't count, Stephano said he was thrown off by the huge bracket with shitty players)

Is it just me or is this the first time HuK's been in a team fight?

Definitely one of the very few. He almost never participates in any team league games due to cross server latency issues.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 03:18:26
April 25 2012 03:18 GMT
#32
Hmm best players from both teams going at it, should be good.
Ksquared
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1748 Posts
April 25 2012 03:27 GMT
#33
On April 25 2012 11:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 11:37 mambar wrote:
On April 25 2012 11:17 rasnj wrote:
Ret is definitely favored vs JyP, and Zenio should be slightly favored vs Puma.

emphasis mine because I don't understand this statement


Ret has sick ZvP and doesn't JYP have weak PvZ?


JYP has good PvZ, his PvT on the other hand...
eSports for life.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 25 2012 03:37 GMT
#34
JYP's PvZ is his best matchup guys
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
April 25 2012 03:40 GMT
#35
No one thinks Zenio will win? The last two games could go either way imo. Unfortunately for EG Huk and Idra got bad matchups for them so I think barring a big upset those wont go well for them. I think liquid wins with a few close matches
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
April 25 2012 03:45 GMT
#36
I don't think anyone on EG can defeat Taeja, and I don't think IdrA can touch HerO so there is no way Liquid can lose this (assuming Taeja is used as the ace).
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
April 25 2012 04:10 GMT
#37
On April 25 2012 11:37 mambar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 11:17 rasnj wrote:
Ret is definitely favored vs JyP, and Zenio should be slightly favored vs Puma.

emphasis mine because I don't understand this statement

I guess definitely is an exaggeration, but I feel Ret will take it. Ret has great zvp and has really been on form lately; he looks much better than his results would suggests (especially than his vp at the winter mlgs suggest). JyP does have great zvp, but IMO it has been way too overhyped and is not really that special (sort of like Inca's pvp), and an online match with minimal preparation is completely different to a GSL match. In addition I'm assuming JyP is in Korea, while Ret is in EU which usually gives at least a slight advantage to the EU player in terms of latency.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
April 25 2012 04:11 GMT
#38
TaeJa to roflstomp HuK
HerO to slaughter IdrA
JYP to beat Ret
PuMa to stomp Zenio

then TaeJa/HerO to win the ace match.

mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
April 25 2012 04:15 GMT
#39
On April 25 2012 12:15 ChrysaliS_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 11:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 25 2012 11:37 mambar wrote:
On April 25 2012 11:17 rasnj wrote:
Ret is definitely favored vs JyP, and Zenio should be slightly favored vs Puma.

emphasis mine because I don't understand this statement


Ret has sick ZvP and doesn't JYP have weak PvZ?


JYP is Korean and Ret isn't...

Ret has beaten lots of koreans
NipponBanzai
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada518 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 04:22:13
April 25 2012 04:19 GMT
#40
On April 25 2012 13:15 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 12:15 ChrysaliS_ wrote:
On April 25 2012 11:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 25 2012 11:37 mambar wrote:
On April 25 2012 11:17 rasnj wrote:
Ret is definitely favored vs JyP, and Zenio should be slightly favored vs Puma.

emphasis mine because I don't understand this statement


Ret has sick ZvP and doesn't JYP have weak PvZ?


JYP is Korean and Ret isn't...

Ret has beaten lots of koreans


Ret HAS beaten koreans. To say he is favoured against the decent ones though is a little sketchy.
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