On April 26 2012 11:35 tuho12345 wrote:
Then stop watching SC2 perhaps??? You don't have to if you don't like it.
Then stop watching SC2 perhaps??? You don't have to if you don't like it.
...what if he wants to make it better -_-
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CeriseCherries
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On April 26 2012 11:35 tuho12345 wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2012 11:26 BlazeFury01 wrote: On April 26 2012 11:20 Bagration wrote: On April 26 2012 11:18 BlazeFury01 wrote: To be honest, I can't wait for the Brood War players to come over and show the current players how things are done. I can't believe how crappy TaeJa's micro was considering he's top elo of the Korean SC2. Now that's not quite fair. Taeja has very good gameplay, including micro, and you can't just take his micro from one game that he lost and compare it to one of the best showcases of micro from BW. That's cherrypicking comparisons. lol I am not cherry picking my son. If you are top elo and considered one of the best players of a game, your micro should be prime regardless of whether you have stim or not. It's so easy to micro if you have stim but a true showcase of micro comes from when you don't have stim. Stutter stepping is so easy with stim, try it without it. Then stop watching SC2 perhaps??? You don't have to if you don't like it. ...what if he wants to make it better -_- | ||
Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On April 26 2012 11:35 Falconblade wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2012 11:30 BlazeFury01 wrote: On April 26 2012 11:25 Falconblade wrote: I'm sick of these BW comparisons. They're crap at SC2 till they switch over and show that they are not. People need to cool it with the BW - fanboyism till actual results are there to validate their claims. For all we know, they could be crap because they can't get used to it. I made the comparision because Brood War is the much harder game with far better players. MVP, Hyun, and ForGG are all lonewolfs on SC2 with crappy practice partners (if you compare them to their teammates on bw). MVP practices with Nestea lol. Flash will be practicing with Bisu, Fantasy, Jaedong, and the rest of the other pros while at the same time they will have their original coaches, strategists and analysts that have been in the pro scene for years backing them. Still doesn't mean that they will be the next top dogs when they transfer. Some of the better players of the game right now are former WC3 players that outstrip people with BW experience, it's the game itself that matters. It might be harder to play BW, but doesn't mean being amazing at BW = being amazing at SC2. Well, Flash did get into masters without knowing what most of the terran units/mechanics did during his rehab so... | ||
Falconblade
United States1035 Posts
On April 26 2012 11:34 Whatson wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2012 11:25 Falconblade wrote: I'm sick of these BW comparisons. They're crap at SC2 till they switch over and show that they are not. People need to cool it with the BW - fanboyism till actual results are there to validate their claims. For all we know, they could be crap because they can't get used to it. lol i really don't want to turn this into a BW vs SCII discussion, but you do know that most top-tier pros played BW before SC2 right? Just saying. I do, but lets look at Stephano, no BW experience, mostly casual WC3. And we can look at NaDa, ForGG, etc. And they've not been rolling in MLGs and GSLs. Some of the best players were mediocre in BW before transitioning and beating people that were arguably better in BW. IdrA was a top foreigner in BW, and right now he struggles to win against people without BW experience. Doesn't directly translate to the same level of skill between the two games. | ||
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On April 26 2012 11:33 blade55555 wrote: It blows my mind that this still surprises people :o. I'm surprised because I thought the managers told him to GG in official games. Maybe that only applies to LAN tournaments. | ||
Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On April 26 2012 11:36 Whatson wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2012 11:35 Falconblade wrote: On April 26 2012 11:30 BlazeFury01 wrote: On April 26 2012 11:25 Falconblade wrote: I'm sick of these BW comparisons. They're crap at SC2 till they switch over and show that they are not. People need to cool it with the BW - fanboyism till actual results are there to validate their claims. For all we know, they could be crap because they can't get used to it. I made the comparision because Brood War is the much harder game with far better players. MVP, Hyun, and ForGG are all lonewolfs on SC2 with crappy practice partners (if you compare them to their teammates on bw). MVP practices with Nestea lol. Flash will be practicing with Bisu, Fantasy, Jaedong, and the rest of the other pros while at the same time they will have their original coaches, strategists and analysts that have been in the pro scene for years backing them. Still doesn't mean that they will be the next top dogs when they transfer. Some of the better players of the game right now are former WC3 players that outstrip people with BW experience, it's the game itself that matters. It might be harder to play BW, but doesn't mean being amazing at BW = being amazing at SC2. Well, Flash did get into masters without knowing what most of the terran units/mechanics did during his rehab so... I'd be surprised if he didn't :p But our expectations for Flash are not Code S, no, we expect him to win Code S at least 4 times a year. | ||
MotherOfRunes
Germany2862 Posts
On April 26 2012 11:35 xXFireandIceXx wrote: Man Idra's gotta get used to heavy heavy aggression. he is used to it, he just misjudged the situation. you could see that he didnt produced roaches after the warren finished. if his scouting would have been better he could have insantly started producing roaches after warren finished. this would have raped the zealots | ||
TheAngryZergling
United States387 Posts
On April 26 2012 11:33 ulan-bat wrote: Burrow + tunneling claws would have done it or was idra dead already? After his minor aggression I think he was dead. Though I think he went for that attack because of the damage sustained on the first attack on his third. | ||
Jisall
United States2054 Posts
On April 26 2012 11:18 BlazeFury01 wrote: To be honest, I can't wait for the Brood War players to come over and show the current players how things are done. I can't believe how crappy TaeJa's micro was considering he's top elo of the Korean SC2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqsSrWZciY0 Stop trying to start this shit. Post this in Elephant in the Room or a blog. Not in a LR. | ||
Whynaut
Canada367 Posts
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On April 26 2012 11:39 Whynaut wrote: God dammit the BW/SC2 "debate" has infested yet another innocent thread. Maybe there could be a designated thread to try and contain it, like the "designated balance discussion" thread. Then don't bring it up in another post... | ||
GodOfWar
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
On April 26 2012 11:40 GodOfWar wrote: lol how did TaeJa lose to HuK? major upset doesnt scout proxy pylons that warp in on high ground in 2 games | ||
blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On April 26 2012 11:37 Dodgin wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2012 11:33 blade55555 wrote: On April 26 2012 11:32 Dodgin wrote: lol no GG in his teams own tournament. It blows my mind that this still surprises people :o. I'm surprised because I thought the managers told him to GG in official games. Maybe that only applies to LAN tournaments. Oh where did you hear about that? :o. | ||
Hypertension
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HQuality
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On April 26 2012 11:34 Whatson wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2012 11:25 Falconblade wrote: I'm sick of these BW comparisons. They're crap at SC2 till they switch over and show that they are not. People need to cool it with the BW - fanboyism till actual results are there to validate their claims. For all we know, they could be crap because they can't get used to it. lol i really don't want to turn this into a BW vs SCII discussion, but you do know that most top-tier pros played BW before SC2 right? Just saying. but...naniwa...stephano...thorzain...sase... etc etc sure most of pros still from bw because u know.. it's logical that most of them in starcraft 2 after starcraft 1 and not after trackmania or counter-strike i dunno On April 26 2012 11:36 Whatson wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2012 11:35 Falconblade wrote: On April 26 2012 11:30 BlazeFury01 wrote: On April 26 2012 11:25 Falconblade wrote: I'm sick of these BW comparisons. They're crap at SC2 till they switch over and show that they are not. People need to cool it with the BW - fanboyism till actual results are there to validate their claims. For all we know, they could be crap because they can't get used to it. I made the comparision because Brood War is the much harder game with far better players. MVP, Hyun, and ForGG are all lonewolfs on SC2 with crappy practice partners (if you compare them to their teammates on bw). MVP practices with Nestea lol. Flash will be practicing with Bisu, Fantasy, Jaedong, and the rest of the other pros while at the same time they will have their original coaches, strategists and analysts that have been in the pro scene for years backing them. Still doesn't mean that they will be the next top dogs when they transfer. Some of the better players of the game right now are former WC3 players that outstrip people with BW experience, it's the game itself that matters. It might be harder to play BW, but doesn't mean being amazing at BW = being amazing at SC2. Well, Flash did get into masters without knowing what most of the terran units/mechanics did during his rehab so... but... he get into masters...as protoss ![]() | ||
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FinestHour
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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On April 26 2012 11:44 FinestHour wrote: dam fuckin nice hold but idk how behind idra is He's ahead. | ||
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