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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
April 26 2012 02:35 GMT
#261
On April 26 2012 11:35 tuho12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 11:26 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On April 26 2012 11:20 Bagration wrote:
On April 26 2012 11:18 BlazeFury01 wrote:
To be honest, I can't wait for the Brood War players to come over and show the current players how things are done. I can't believe how crappy TaeJa's micro was considering he's top elo of the Korean SC2.



Now that's not quite fair. Taeja has very good gameplay, including micro, and you can't just take his micro from one game that he lost and compare it to one of the best showcases of micro from BW. That's cherrypicking comparisons.


lol I am not cherry picking my son. If you are top elo and considered one of the best players of a game, your micro should be prime regardless of whether you have stim or not. It's so easy to micro if you have stim but a true showcase of micro comes from when you don't have stim. Stutter stepping is so easy with stim, try it without it.

Then stop watching SC2 perhaps??? You don't have to if you don't like it.


...what if he wants to make it better -_-
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
April 26 2012 02:36 GMT
#262
On April 26 2012 11:35 Falconblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 11:30 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On April 26 2012 11:25 Falconblade wrote:
I'm sick of these BW comparisons. They're crap at SC2 till they switch over and show that they are not. People need to cool it with the BW - fanboyism till actual results are there to validate their claims. For all we know, they could be crap because they can't get used to it.


I made the comparision because Brood War is the much harder game with far better players. MVP, Hyun, and ForGG are all lonewolfs on SC2 with crappy practice partners (if you compare them to their teammates on bw). MVP practices with Nestea lol. Flash will be practicing with Bisu, Fantasy, Jaedong, and the rest of the other pros while at the same time they will have their original coaches, strategists and analysts that have been in the pro scene for years backing them.


Still doesn't mean that they will be the next top dogs when they transfer. Some of the better players of the game right now are former WC3 players that outstrip people with BW experience, it's the game itself that matters. It might be harder to play BW, but doesn't mean being amazing at BW = being amazing at SC2.

Well, Flash did get into masters without knowing what most of the terran units/mechanics did during his rehab so...
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Falconblade
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1035 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 02:38:26
April 26 2012 02:37 GMT
#263
On April 26 2012 11:34 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 11:25 Falconblade wrote:
I'm sick of these BW comparisons. They're crap at SC2 till they switch over and show that they are not. People need to cool it with the BW - fanboyism till actual results are there to validate their claims. For all we know, they could be crap because they can't get used to it.

lol i really don't want to turn this into a BW vs SCII discussion, but you do know that most top-tier pros played BW before SC2 right? Just saying.


I do, but lets look at Stephano, no BW experience, mostly casual WC3. And we can look at NaDa, ForGG, etc. And they've not been rolling in MLGs and GSLs. Some of the best players were mediocre in BW before transitioning and beating people that were arguably better in BW.

IdrA was a top foreigner in BW, and right now he struggles to win against people without BW experience. Doesn't directly translate to the same level of skill between the two games.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 26 2012 02:37 GMT
#264
On April 26 2012 11:33 blade55555 wrote:
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On April 26 2012 11:32 Dodgin wrote:
lol no GG in his teams own tournament.

It blows my mind that this still surprises people :o.


I'm surprised because I thought the managers told him to GG in official games.

Maybe that only applies to LAN tournaments.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 26 2012 02:38 GMT
#265
On April 26 2012 11:36 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 11:35 Falconblade wrote:
On April 26 2012 11:30 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On April 26 2012 11:25 Falconblade wrote:
I'm sick of these BW comparisons. They're crap at SC2 till they switch over and show that they are not. People need to cool it with the BW - fanboyism till actual results are there to validate their claims. For all we know, they could be crap because they can't get used to it.


I made the comparision because Brood War is the much harder game with far better players. MVP, Hyun, and ForGG are all lonewolfs on SC2 with crappy practice partners (if you compare them to their teammates on bw). MVP practices with Nestea lol. Flash will be practicing with Bisu, Fantasy, Jaedong, and the rest of the other pros while at the same time they will have their original coaches, strategists and analysts that have been in the pro scene for years backing them.


Still doesn't mean that they will be the next top dogs when they transfer. Some of the better players of the game right now are former WC3 players that outstrip people with BW experience, it's the game itself that matters. It might be harder to play BW, but doesn't mean being amazing at BW = being amazing at SC2.

Well, Flash did get into masters without knowing what most of the terran units/mechanics did during his rehab so...


I'd be surprised if he didn't :p

But our expectations for Flash are not Code S, no, we expect him to win Code S at least 4 times a year.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
April 26 2012 02:38 GMT
#266
On April 26 2012 11:35 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
Man Idra's gotta get used to heavy heavy aggression.

he is used to it, he just misjudged the situation. you could see that he didnt produced roaches after the warren finished. if his scouting would have been better he could have insantly started producing roaches after warren finished. this would have raped the zealots
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
TheAngryZergling
Profile Joined January 2011
United States387 Posts
April 26 2012 02:38 GMT
#267
On April 26 2012 11:33 ulan-bat wrote:
Burrow + tunneling claws would have done it or was idra dead already?


After his minor aggression I think he was dead. Though I think he went for that attack because of the damage sustained on the first attack on his third.
Everything in life is most clearly explained through a Starcraft analogy.
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
April 26 2012 02:38 GMT
#268
On April 26 2012 11:18 BlazeFury01 wrote:
To be honest, I can't wait for the Brood War players to come over and show the current players how things are done. I can't believe how crappy TaeJa's micro was considering he's top elo of the Korean SC2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqsSrWZciY0


Stop trying to start this shit. Post this in Elephant in the Room or a blog. Not in a LR.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
Whynaut
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada367 Posts
April 26 2012 02:39 GMT
#269
God dammit the BW/SC2 "debate" has infested yet another innocent thread. Maybe there could be a designated thread to try and contain it, like the "designated balance discussion" thread.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
April 26 2012 02:40 GMT
#270
On April 26 2012 11:39 Whynaut wrote:
God dammit the BW/SC2 "debate" has infested yet another innocent thread. Maybe there could be a designated thread to try and contain it, like the "designated balance discussion" thread.

Then don't bring it up in another post...
¯\_(シ)_/¯
GodOfWar
Profile Joined December 2011
870 Posts
April 26 2012 02:40 GMT
#271
lol how did TaeJa lose to HuK?

major upset
Mvp Moon Squirtle
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
April 26 2012 02:41 GMT
#272
On April 26 2012 11:40 GodOfWar wrote:
lol how did TaeJa lose to HuK?

major upset


doesnt scout proxy pylons that warp in on high ground in 2 games
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 26 2012 02:41 GMT
#273
On April 26 2012 11:37 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 11:33 blade55555 wrote:
On April 26 2012 11:32 Dodgin wrote:
lol no GG in his teams own tournament.

It blows my mind that this still surprises people :o.


I'm surprised because I thought the managers told him to GG in official games.

Maybe that only applies to LAN tournaments.


Oh where did you hear about that? :o.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Hypertension
Profile Joined April 2011
United States802 Posts
April 26 2012 02:42 GMT
#274
Idra is so strong vs cheese

+ Show Spoiler +
jk
Buy boots first. Boots good item.
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
April 26 2012 02:42 GMT
#275
On April 26 2012 11:34 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 11:25 Falconblade wrote:
I'm sick of these BW comparisons. They're crap at SC2 till they switch over and show that they are not. People need to cool it with the BW - fanboyism till actual results are there to validate their claims. For all we know, they could be crap because they can't get used to it.

lol i really don't want to turn this into a BW vs SCII discussion, but you do know that most top-tier pros played BW before SC2 right? Just saying.

but...naniwa...stephano...thorzain...sase... etc etc
sure most of pros still from bw because u know.. it's logical that most of them in starcraft 2 after starcraft 1 and not after trackmania or counter-strike i dunno
On April 26 2012 11:36 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 11:35 Falconblade wrote:
On April 26 2012 11:30 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On April 26 2012 11:25 Falconblade wrote:
I'm sick of these BW comparisons. They're crap at SC2 till they switch over and show that they are not. People need to cool it with the BW - fanboyism till actual results are there to validate their claims. For all we know, they could be crap because they can't get used to it.


I made the comparision because Brood War is the much harder game with far better players. MVP, Hyun, and ForGG are all lonewolfs on SC2 with crappy practice partners (if you compare them to their teammates on bw). MVP practices with Nestea lol. Flash will be practicing with Bisu, Fantasy, Jaedong, and the rest of the other pros while at the same time they will have their original coaches, strategists and analysts that have been in the pro scene for years backing them.


Still doesn't mean that they will be the next top dogs when they transfer. Some of the better players of the game right now are former WC3 players that outstrip people with BW experience, it's the game itself that matters. It might be harder to play BW, but doesn't mean being amazing at BW = being amazing at SC2.

Well, Flash did get into masters without knowing what most of the terran units/mechanics did during his rehab so...

but... he get into masters...as protoss don't know why u meant terran
No carpal tunnel no skill
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 26 2012 02:42 GMT
#276
Aww that supply block T_T He's gonna die here, brutal timing you need everything you can get to defend it.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 26 2012 02:44 GMT
#277
dam fuckin nice hold but idk how behind idra is
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
April 26 2012 02:44 GMT
#278
On April 26 2012 11:44 FinestHour wrote:
dam fuckin nice hold but idk how behind idra is


He's ahead.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 26 2012 02:44 GMT
#279
LOL SO MANY ROACHES and hes ahead on drones. i am seriously impressed
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Ender2701
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States581 Posts
April 26 2012 02:44 GMT
#280
HerO is incredibly far behind... I don't know why DJWheat is talking about Idra being in bad shape.
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