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TheAngryZergling
Profile Joined January 2011
United States387 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 03:46:31
April 14 2012 03:44 GMT
#101
Generally love seeing zerg win but ... sigh ... stupid ghost nerf. terran with a 3K/3K bank on 5-6 bases and still unable to match the zerg militarily. This was the nestea v mvp game w/out ghosts.

Should Thorzain have sacked more scvs to free up supply or what could he have done to capitalize on his maxed upgraded mech/bio army? More Ravens? More drops? No point to dropping aside from sniping tech structures at that point. Not an easy task.
Everything in life is most clearly explained through a Starcraft analogy.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 14 2012 03:45 GMT
#102
Good things from Thorzain - good macro, fast upgrades, cost efficient play.

Bad things from Thorzain - way too passive late game vs. brood lord infestor.

The biggest weakness of brood lord infestor is its mobility, and Terrans who know how to exploit that are able to do well vs. it.
Probasaur
Profile Joined August 2011
United States461 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 03:47:56
April 14 2012 03:47 GMT
#103
So frustrating to watch such stellar amazing play from thorzain seemingly doing everything right. But even against that infestor broodlord still makes it look like he's any other platinum scrub. While I agree Ultra's died too easily to ghosts, there is no effective and cost effective counter in the game to broodlord infestor. The game shouldn't automatically end if one player reaches a certain amount of 1 unit. Zerg is the only race that has such a luxury. Corrupters too good against anything that might counter them in the sky still having to deal with fungal.

All we can do now is hope that HoTS will provide us with enough change that we'll see less of this "gets 10 BL and 10 infestor, auto wins". I think they're great units design wise and would work great in the game if the other wasn't there too.

And this is coming from someone who plays random.
"He who makes a beast of himself.... gets rid of the pain of being a man" -Hunter S Thompson.
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 03:49:00
April 14 2012 03:48 GMT
#104
On April 14 2012 12:44 TheAngryZergling wrote:
Should Thorzain have sacked more scvs to free up supply or what could he have done to capitalize on his maxed upgraded mech/bio army?

Multiple drops, nukes, ghost harass, hatch snipes, forcing the zerg out of position...

When MMA beat Stephano at IPL, he chased him over the entire map and hit whereever Stephano was not. Thorzain was pretty passive this match.
Mutation complete.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44116 Posts
April 14 2012 03:49 GMT
#105
Hasu should be able to take this next set... but if Stephano plays in the ace match, then I don't know how Mouz can win >.>
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
April 14 2012 03:51 GMT
#106
On April 14 2012 12:47 Probasaur wrote:
So frustrating to watch such stellar amazing play from thorzain seemingly doing everything right. But even against that infestor broodlord still makes it look like he's any other platinum scrub. While I agree Ultra's died too easily to ghosts, there is no effective and cost effective counter in the game to broodlord infestor. The game shouldn't automatically end if one player reaches a certain amount of 1 unit. Zerg is the only race that has such a luxury. Corrupters too good against anything that might counter them in the sky still having to deal with fungal.

All we can do now is hope that HoTS will provide us with enough change that we'll see less of this "gets 10 BL and 10 infestor, auto wins". I think they're great units design wise and would work great in the game if the other wasn't there too.

And this is coming from someone who plays random.

...wait...Did someone just say "Corruptors too good"?
Average means I'm better than half of you.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
April 14 2012 03:51 GMT
#107
On April 14 2012 12:44 TheAngryZergling wrote:
Generally love seeing zerg win but ... sigh ... stupid ghost nerf. terran with a 3K/3K bank on 5-6 bases and still unable to match the zerg militarily. This was the nestea v mvp game w/out ghosts.

Should Thorzain have sacked more scvs to free up supply or what could he have done to capitalize on his maxed upgraded mech/bio army? More Ravens? More drops? No point to dropping aside from sniping tech structures at that point. Not an easy task.

Yeah, more Raven and more drops. You have to use mobility, a head-on-engagement is always (a bit) in favor of Broodlords.
PDDs were really nice. I don't saw any seeker missiles. They would have been nice since Stephanos Broodlords were a bit clumped up.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
April 14 2012 03:51 GMT
#108
Fun series between stephano and thorzain.

Stephano's patience shows in that last game.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
April 14 2012 03:59 GMT
#109
On April 14 2012 12:49 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Hasu should be able to take this next set... but if Stephano plays in the ace match, then I don't know how Mouz can win >.>

thorzain can play again... but this time bring the THUNDER
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 14 2012 04:03 GMT
#110
Haha Incontrol

"And hasuobs is asking him politely: Guten tag"

That doesnt make sence at all haha
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
April 14 2012 04:13 GMT
#111
Yeah...I didn't expect much from Dragon. Still painful to see him lose so decisively.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
April 14 2012 04:14 GMT
#112
Dragon couldn't streamcheat this game.

Oh shit not that drama again lol.


on a side note Feast Thorzain should be badass
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 14 2012 04:15 GMT
#113
On April 14 2012 13:13 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Yeah...I didn't expect much from Dragon. Still painful to see him lose so decisively.

Dragon was kind of a strange addition to Millenium imo.
Off-season = best season
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
April 14 2012 04:15 GMT
#114
Hum Feast playing the ace match. Well he is the second best on the team after all ... and he has a awesome PvT.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 14 2012 04:16 GMT
#115
On April 14 2012 13:13 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Yeah...I didn't expect much from Dragon. Still painful to see him lose so decisively.


He just need some time. Millinium are really good at producing good players im sure it will help Dragon alot.

Annd seriously incontrol and his 2 german words are cracking me up:D
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
lessQQmorePEWPEW
Profile Joined November 2011
Jamaica921 Posts
April 14 2012 04:22 GMT
#116
disappointment from dragon
Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly - Bob Marley
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 14 2012 04:23 GMT
#117
Feast as the ace thats a huge suprice. I was expecting Stephano but Feast such a fantastic protoss lets see what he can do vs Thorzain
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44116 Posts
April 14 2012 04:35 GMT
#118
I feel that Millenium made a mistake by playing Feast instead of Stephano. Feast is good, but not the best player on the team. I wonder what their rationale for that decision was.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
April 14 2012 04:39 GMT
#119
On April 14 2012 13:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I feel that Millenium made a mistake by playing Feast instead of Stephano. Feast is good, but not the best player on the team. I wonder what their rationale for that decision was.


Happy birthday. Feast is damn good.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VI_-_World_Championship
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44116 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 04:49:02
April 14 2012 04:46 GMT
#120
On April 14 2012 13:39 Jisall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 13:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I feel that Millenium made a mistake by playing Feast instead of Stephano. Feast is good, but not the best player on the team. I wonder what their rationale for that decision was.


Happy birthday. Feast is damn good.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VI_-_World_Championship


Thanks!

And I know that Feast is damn good (although merely showing that he got fourth in a tournament probably isn't the best argument for that)... but, again, I was stressing the point that he's not the best player.

EDIT: 2-0 Thorzain over Feast in ace match, and Thorzain made it look pretty easy.

gg wp, glad Mouz won
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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