EPT[NASL] S3 Week 1 Day 2 - Page 22
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Olinim
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Packawana
United States1081 Posts
On April 13 2012 13:23 Olinim wrote: did they say who the players in the showmatch will be? I missed it. Sen vs ToD. | ||
Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On April 13 2012 13:22 Alpino wrote: oh my god thank you so much. 200 roaches in 12-14 minutes was semi-standard since a long time, I even remember IdrA talking about the third at 25 pop a year ago. But Protoss were winning more games against this than losing, I even remember everytime someone made roaches the LRs would go OH MY GOD ROACHES SO BAD WHY THEY DO THAT. But in MLGs I still remember a shakuras game, CoCa vs NaNi that CoCa won with straight up 3 base roach with a few hydras because NaNi went stargate, NaNi was crushed. The difference was that Zergs didn't have the injects as sharp and more than that, a lot of zerg players didn't bother to maneuver their roaches correctly. Now it's like Stephano with his superior creep-spread, maneuvering, defense against all-ins revolutionized something. No he is just making the most obvious unit to make in the matchup until he is maxed. Fact is, Stephano is just playing an old build superbly. 200 roaches in 12-14 minutes was bad on a lot of the older maps because of rush distances favoring fast pressure, Protoss going gate expand instead of FFE, and throwing in 5 gates that Zergs had a lot of trouble defending. Stephano's ZvP is unique because of the way he has every timing down and is able to defend against builds that Zergs going 3 hatch before were not able to. But then again, Protoss are going FFE every single game these days and that's why 3 hatch has become standard. What Stephano gave Zergs is a different way of thinking about the match up - Zergs back then were playing scared and you had IdrA and Artosis telling people that Protoss is able to turtle on two bases and come out with void ray colossi compositions that were unbeatable. Then Stephano came along and told Zergs that the match up is not about cheesing and it's not about playing scared - what you had to do against FFE was build 4 zerglings, a third base, and no tech for 6-7 minutes, after which you deny Protoss's third and they lose. | ||
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
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Sabu113
United States11050 Posts
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McKTenor13
United States1383 Posts
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Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
Anyway, was both amused and entertained by the series. Another good day of NASL. Good times. | ||
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MrBitter
United States2940 Posts
On April 13 2012 13:40 McKTenor13 wrote: Dimagas style seems very old school. Don't think it'll work against other zergs, but he pulled it off very well nonetheless Little trivia for you guys: At the IEM World Championships, Dimaga played this style vs MC in practice games and went 5-0. He's be working on it for a while. If it doesn't look perfect it's because it's so APM intensive, but it's a very effective and exciting way to play Zerg. (imo) | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On April 13 2012 13:40 Porcelina wrote: Really surprised Dimaga won it after that rather fail Baneling drop at the natural, where he could have killed four or more Sentries but did not get to drop them inside the wall off. Anyway, was both amused and entertained by the series. Another good day of NASL. Good times. 3 hatch gives you a huge economic advantage and Dimaga wasn't playing from behind at any stage in the game. It felt that way because he had 1.5k minerals and gas banked while transitioning to hive tech, but Hasu was not in a position to threaten Dimaga except for a brief window when he had archons and Dimaga failed to build spine crawlers - archons being the counter to zergling baneling compositions. The rest of the game played out the way it did with a solid timing from Dimaga that resulted in him having infestors and brood lords before Hasu had a mothership, which sealed the deal. | ||
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Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
On April 13 2012 13:41 MrBitter wrote: Little trivia for you guys: At the IEM World Championships, Dimaga played this style vs MC in practice games and went 5-0. He's be working on it for a while. If it doesn't look perfect it's because it's so APM intensive, but it's a very effective and exciting way to play Zerg. (imo) We love trivia. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On April 13 2012 13:41 MrBitter wrote: Little trivia for you guys: At the IEM World Championships, Dimaga played this style vs MC in practice games and went 5-0. He's be working on it for a while. If it doesn't look perfect it's because it's so APM intensive, but it's a very effective and exciting way to play Zerg. (imo) I'm waiting for Stephano to play it - he has the potential to take it to awesome heights with his APM and multi-tasking. Nothing against Dimaga though, he's a great player in his own right though he struggles at times in tournaments. | ||
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Thrax
Canada1755 Posts
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shindigs
United States4795 Posts
Pretty awesome production though | ||
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Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
On April 13 2012 13:49 Thrax wrote: Those predictions are pretty fun, hehe. I love the concept behind a lot of the segments NASL came up with. They really are turning this into a show instead of just a bunch of games one after the other. It is actually kind of awesome. Color me surprised. Love it. | ||
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HeavenResign
United States702 Posts
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Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
On April 13 2012 14:04 DrowSwordsman wrote: I'm not sure where else to put this - I just bought the subscription for season 3 and I wanted to watch some vods from day 1. Are they not up yet? I can't find them. I feel bad for putting this in this thread but they don't have a contact tab so I have no idea who to email. If anyone could help me out I'd really appreciate it. Thanks! Do not see any vods. You can try their contact form at http://www.nasl.tv/Home/Contact though, I did not see an e-mail address at a cursory scan, but at least that should help. Have not seen anything official about the timeline of released vods either, not that I have looked very hard. Hope you get to watch the vods soon. | ||
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Yaki
France4234 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On April 13 2012 14:10 Yaki wrote: no LB for nasl 3 ? LB would have been good for this season because all the games were played less than 24 hours ago, they removed it in season 2 because there was no way to tell the condition of the players or even where they were in the world when the games were played. | ||
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HeavenResign
United States702 Posts
On April 13 2012 14:08 Porcelina wrote: Do not see any vods. You can try their contact form at http://www.nasl.tv/Home/Contact though, I did not see an e-mail address at a cursory scan, but at least that should help. Have not seen anything official about the timeline of released vods either, not that I have looked very hard. Hope you get to watch the vods soon. Thank you very much!! Couldn't find the contact page at all. :D. | ||
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