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On April 08 2012 07:38 iSunrise wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 07:35 Pandain wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks that this is a kick ass event? The technical difficulties and the questionable matches aren't enough to overshadow the huge positives of this event- the superb production, kickass crowd, gstl finals tonight, sick matches. Nope, I also enjoy it a lot and I absolutely love everything IPL has given us for only $5 already. The IPLLiveU stream is also extremely addicting, Lani is Awesome! There have been so many funny player interviews and behind-the-scenes stuff I lost count of it.
People are just frustrated on the spot because due problems, in the grand scheme of things IPL4 is okay,but it's absoultely not amazing in terms of production...
The games are good though. I think this just clearly shows a lack of experience organizing live tournaments.
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On April 08 2012 07:39 mememolly wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 07:37 Tzuborg wrote:
IdrA needs to learn how to bane split like nestea by splitting you mean running them into tanks?
He's talking about the splits against the marines, and Idra runs shit into tanks anyways, regardless of whether he can afford it or not.
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On April 08 2012 07:37 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 07:29 iSunrise wrote:On April 08 2012 07:21 Fubi wrote:On April 08 2012 07:14 eFonSG wrote:On April 08 2012 07:08 Lonyo wrote:On April 08 2012 07:05 give.ViviD wrote:
So for us who haven't been following the tournament, what has exactly been so bad about IPL 4? I mean so it's been perfectly fine! Some of the casters have been really terrible. There have been consistent stream issues (lag, black screen etc) Sound has been terrible often (bad volume, mono-stereo not done properly, multiple stream's sounds coming through on one stream) VERY important games haven't been streamed. So apart from stream issues, video issues, sound issues and games being shown issues, it's been great! I have had 0 stream issues, and there has been, more, equally as important games all of which were very high quality with 0 lag. Casting is a personal preference, and the obsing has been very very good. The games are the highest level, and just because stephano isnt shown doesnt mean important games arent being shown. From my point of view this tourney has been great. There are definitely stream problems on IPL's side: just because you weren't watching at those time it doesn't mean it didn't happen. I mean I could be wrong, but if you had no stream problem, can you be so nice to tell us how exactly MC won against Squirtle in their 2nd game? And for the games, the fact that they're showing Nestea vs Ganzi, when only seeding is on the line, over MKP vs Curiours which determines who advances; or how they didn't show Stephano when everyone wanted to see that. The Observing is only good cuz they're borrowing GSL's observer (STLegend) Let's not forget those awkward stage performance, and sound fails (random girl voices popping up for whole 5min DURING a match; caster's mic on during commercials, 2nd stream mic not working the whole day, etc) You can try as hard as you want to pretend this tourney is good, but it doesn't change the fact that it's really really poorly executed in terms of production. I didn´t have serious stream problems since IPL4 started. We even get a free 480p/60 stream that runs very well. If that is not good enough for you, then maybe the problems are on your side. And pay $30 for MLG and be done with it. Don´t even know what there is to talk about. $5 for this and the other events that are included in $5 is more than we can hope for. You like some other people just really lost all your "facts" arguments long ago. I can understand that you can be upset that some games were not shown. If IPL had asked for $50, yes, maybe we would see perfect execution everywhere, but let´s be real, this is basically a "free" tournament. MLG asks 4-6 times more money and they still are far from perfect. Now, choose which side you are on. IPL asked for $60 a year, MLG asks for $90 a year and gives WAY more games.
$90? They had 1 Winter Arena, 2 Spring Arenas, probably 2 summer and fall Arenas, which is a total of 7 Arenas at $140 dollars. That's not even counting the premium streams at the championships.
IPL also produces daily content (TAC1, TAC2, TAC3, Fight Club, Tournament of Champions, Ye Olde Map).
Take what you will from it.
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On April 08 2012 07:39 MasterKang wrote:
MMA vs Nestea finals. MMA wins 4-3, calling it right now. (3-2 if it's best of 3)
MMA gonna roll face if he gets matched up against a zerg. Lookout Nestea/Stephano!
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On April 08 2012 07:38 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 07:37 Warlike Prince wrote:On April 08 2012 07:36 L3g3nd_ wrote:
5 terran 2 zerg 1 protoss : ( this is depressing but expected it's ok, finals is gonna be 1 terran and 1 zerg, with NesTea beating MKP!
if it goes that was i would be forced to root for MKP
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On April 08 2012 07:40 imareaver3 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 07:39 Zebb wrote:On April 08 2012 07:38 Redox wrote:
I will laugh so hard if its Polt vs Stephano in the quarters again. Oh god please yes Somebody make this happen again. Polt's already playing alive, according to the interview stream
So that means Stephano vs Bomber?
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On April 08 2012 07:36 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 07:33 eFonSG wrote:On April 08 2012 07:29 dAPhREAk wrote:On April 08 2012 07:28 Lunares wrote:On April 08 2012 07:26 eFonSG wrote:On April 08 2012 07:21 Fubi wrote:On April 08 2012 07:14 eFonSG wrote:On April 08 2012 07:08 Lonyo wrote:On April 08 2012 07:05 give.ViviD wrote:
So for us who haven't been following the tournament, what has exactly been so bad about IPL 4? I mean so it's been perfectly fine! Some of the casters have been really terrible. There have been consistent stream issues (lag, black screen etc) Sound has been terrible often (bad volume, mono-stereo not done properly, multiple stream's sounds coming through on one stream) VERY important games haven't been streamed. So apart from stream issues, video issues, sound issues and games being shown issues, it's been great! I have had 0 stream issues, and there has been, more, equally as important games all of which were very high quality with 0 lag. Casting is a personal preference, and the obsing has been very very good. The games are the highest level, and just because stephano isnt shown doesnt mean important games arent being shown. From my point of view this tourney has been great. There are definitely stream problems on IPL's side: just because you weren't watching at those time it doesn't mean it didn't happen. I mean I could be wrong, but if you had no stream problem, can you be so nice to tell us how exactly MC won against Squirtle in their 2nd game? And for the games, the fact that they're showing Nestea vs Ganzi, when only seeding is on the line, over MKP vs Curiours which determines who advances; or how they didn't show Stephano when everyone wanted to see that. The Observing is only good cuz they're borrowing GSL's observer (STLegend) Let's not forget those awkward stage performance, and sound fails (random girl voices popping up for whole 5min DURING a match; caster's mic on during commercials, 2nd stream mic not working the whole day, etc) You can try as hard as you want to pretend this tourney is good, but it doesn't change the fact that it's really really poorly executed in terms of production. But its NOT. The production value is up immensely from other tournaments. The observing is good because they have the BEST person, it doesnt matter where hes from haha. They are showing elimination games, Jjaki vs MMA is on. Its more than likely based off a schedule, not ideal for a dynamic setting but not unfathomable. Just as many stage performances have been not awkward as awkward its a player thing not a tournament thing. What about the other 100 games theyve shown? Were those FREE games ( for those who dont have the pass), not high quality? Not important? And ive had my computer on from the beginning to the end of the IPL, and my internet has gone down from time to time but i havent experienced any lag or blackscreens from the IPL side. People are just tunneling in on the sound issues and the other issues that have snowballed today. But to say the whole tourney was bad is ignoring EVERYTHING else. The production is up immensely from...what exactly? Dremhack and MLG were much better. IPL is better than NASL but then again who isn't? Jjajki MMA is the only elimination game in the last hour when they skipped over 2 more. And also there have been a ton of stream lag issues and other things, you must just have not been paying attention. Again this is certainly isn't a BAD tournament. It's just mediocre so far in terms of production value. its mediocre compared to the previous IPL tournaments, which makes me sad. had such high hopes for IPL. wanted them to be a true competitor to MLG, which previously they were. I completely disagree with MLG and dreamhack being better produced, and YES i have been paying attention, and NO i havent had lag. With the viewership, and the quality of games to say this wasnt a competitor to MLG is just completely ignorant. i was trying to watch the first game of IdrA VS Jajkji unfortunately instead of hearing the casters i heard an interview going on completely drowining out the casters so i had a hard time following the action lag i can gat past, talking over there own commentators i have a hard time forgiving
fair enough, i havent denied the sound issues, reading my post back, it sounds more opinionated than i had hoped. Still i think the point stands that it is a strong competitor to MLG.
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If we have a Nestea v. Stephano finals, that would be fucking amazing.
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On April 08 2012 07:39 K3Nyy wrote:
If only MC replaced Squirtle, this would be the perfect championship bracket. T_T;;
MC didn't deserve to advance he played very poorly this tournament.
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whats the name of the song?
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MKP vs MMA
aLive vs Polt
Bomber vs Stephano
Squirtle vs Nestea
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It's like watching the GSL! Seeded foreigner included. I'm glad to see Nestea doing well again.
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On April 08 2012 07:39 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Alive vs Polt? Ultimate Mech vs Bio tvt?
no marine/tank vs marine tank.
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I'm hoping for a Nestea MKP finals like in GSL 2 how amainzg would that be?
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If they match the only 2 zergs one against each other I'm going to blame it on Gom trying to install a GomTvT outpost on United States
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On April 08 2012 07:39 MasterKang wrote:
MMA vs Nestea finals. MMA wins 4-3, calling it right now. (3-2 if it's best of 3)
There's no way MMA drops that many games to Nestea.
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OMFG WHY I HATE YOU IPL...WHY WOULD YOU GIVE STEPHANO THE ONE PLAYER WHO SUCKS AT TVZ
User was warned for this post
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On April 08 2012 07:39 lisward wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 07:36 abalam wrote:
While I'm glad that Nestea won, I really didn't like his baneling usage, against a better player he would have been on the brink of loosing that game :/ Nope. If you go mech you CANNOT lose your mech units, and Nestea had a huge economy so he did it because he can. Ganzi had literally no economy after he lost his third.
No, it was a mistake to target his mech units instead of marines. Some of those engagements were terrible for Nestea. Bad baneling control.
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EPT
