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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 07 2012 22:36 GMT
#4341
On April 08 2012 07:33 eFonSG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 07:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 08 2012 07:28 Lunares wrote:
On April 08 2012 07:26 eFonSG wrote:
On April 08 2012 07:21 Fubi wrote:
On April 08 2012 07:14 eFonSG wrote:
On April 08 2012 07:08 Lonyo wrote:
On April 08 2012 07:05 give.ViviD wrote:
So for us who haven't been following the tournament, what has exactly been so bad about IPL 4? I mean so it's been perfectly fine!

Some of the casters have been really terrible.
There have been consistent stream issues (lag, black screen etc)
Sound has been terrible often (bad volume, mono-stereo not done properly, multiple stream's sounds coming through on one stream)
VERY important games haven't been streamed.

So apart from stream issues, video issues, sound issues and games being shown issues, it's been great!



I have had 0 stream issues, and there has been, more, equally as important games all of which were very high quality with 0 lag. Casting is a personal preference, and the obsing has been very very good. The games are the highest level, and just because stephano isnt shown doesnt mean important games arent being shown. From my point of view this tourney has been great.

There are definitely stream problems on IPL's side: just because you weren't watching at those time it doesn't mean it didn't happen. I mean I could be wrong, but if you had no stream problem, can you be so nice to tell us how exactly MC won against Squirtle in their 2nd game?

And for the games, the fact that they're showing Nestea vs Ganzi, when only seeding is on the line, over MKP vs Curiours which determines who advances; or how they didn't show Stephano when everyone wanted to see that.

The Observing is only good cuz they're borrowing GSL's observer (STLegend)

Let's not forget those awkward stage performance, and sound fails (random girl voices popping up for whole 5min DURING a match; caster's mic on during commercials, 2nd stream mic not working the whole day, etc)

You can try as hard as you want to pretend this tourney is good, but it doesn't change the fact that it's really really poorly executed in terms of production.


But its NOT. The production value is up immensely from other tournaments. The observing is good because they have the BEST person, it doesnt matter where hes from haha. They are showing elimination games, Jjaki vs MMA is on. Its more than likely based off a schedule, not ideal for a dynamic setting but not unfathomable. Just as many stage performances have been not awkward as awkward its a player thing not a tournament thing. What about the other 100 games theyve shown? Were those FREE games ( for those who dont have the pass), not high quality? Not important? And ive had my computer on from the beginning to the end of the IPL, and my internet has gone down from time to time but i havent experienced any lag or blackscreens from the IPL side. People are just tunneling in on the sound issues and the other issues that have snowballed today. But to say the whole tourney was bad is ignoring EVERYTHING else.


The production is up immensely from...what exactly? Dremhack and MLG were much better. IPL is better than NASL but then again who isn't?

Jjajki MMA is the only elimination game in the last hour when they skipped over 2 more. And also there have been a ton of stream lag issues and other things, you must just have not been paying attention.

Again this is certainly isn't a BAD tournament. It's just mediocre so far in terms of production value.

its mediocre compared to the previous IPL tournaments, which makes me sad. had such high hopes for IPL. wanted them to be a true competitor to MLG, which previously they were.



I completely disagree with MLG and dreamhack being better produced, and YES i have been paying attention, and NO i havent had lag. With the viewership, and the quality of games to say this wasnt a competitor to MLG is just completely ignorant.

i was trying to watch the first game of IdrA VS Jajkji unfortunately instead of hearing the casters i heard an interview going on completely drowining out the casters so i had a hard time following the action

lag i can gat past, talking over there own commentators i have a hard time forgiving
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
April 07 2012 22:36 GMT
#4342
5 terran 2 zerg 1 protoss : ( this is depressing
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
April 07 2012 22:36 GMT
#4343
So, only Squirtle advances of the Open Bracket players.
A bit suprising.
Tribuno
Profile Joined August 2011
Italy261 Posts
April 07 2012 22:36 GMT
#4344
nestea god of zerg!
eFonSG
Profile Joined November 2010
United States255 Posts
April 07 2012 22:36 GMT
#4345
On April 08 2012 07:34 Lunares wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 07:33 eFonSG wrote:
On April 08 2012 07:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 08 2012 07:28 Lunares wrote:
On April 08 2012 07:26 eFonSG wrote:
On April 08 2012 07:21 Fubi wrote:
On April 08 2012 07:14 eFonSG wrote:
On April 08 2012 07:08 Lonyo wrote:
On April 08 2012 07:05 give.ViviD wrote:
So for us who haven't been following the tournament, what has exactly been so bad about IPL 4? I mean so it's been perfectly fine!

Some of the casters have been really terrible.
There have been consistent stream issues (lag, black screen etc)
Sound has been terrible often (bad volume, mono-stereo not done properly, multiple stream's sounds coming through on one stream)
VERY important games haven't been streamed.

So apart from stream issues, video issues, sound issues and games being shown issues, it's been great!



I have had 0 stream issues, and there has been, more, equally as important games all of which were very high quality with 0 lag. Casting is a personal preference, and the obsing has been very very good. The games are the highest level, and just because stephano isnt shown doesnt mean important games arent being shown. From my point of view this tourney has been great.

There are definitely stream problems on IPL's side: just because you weren't watching at those time it doesn't mean it didn't happen. I mean I could be wrong, but if you had no stream problem, can you be so nice to tell us how exactly MC won against Squirtle in their 2nd game?

And for the games, the fact that they're showing Nestea vs Ganzi, when only seeding is on the line, over MKP vs Curiours which determines who advances; or how they didn't show Stephano when everyone wanted to see that.

The Observing is only good cuz they're borrowing GSL's observer (STLegend)

Let's not forget those awkward stage performance, and sound fails (random girl voices popping up for whole 5min DURING a match; caster's mic on during commercials, 2nd stream mic not working the whole day, etc)

You can try as hard as you want to pretend this tourney is good, but it doesn't change the fact that it's really really poorly executed in terms of production.


But its NOT. The production value is up immensely from other tournaments. The observing is good because they have the BEST person, it doesnt matter where hes from haha. They are showing elimination games, Jjaki vs MMA is on. Its more than likely based off a schedule, not ideal for a dynamic setting but not unfathomable. Just as many stage performances have been not awkward as awkward its a player thing not a tournament thing. What about the other 100 games theyve shown? Were those FREE games ( for those who dont have the pass), not high quality? Not important? And ive had my computer on from the beginning to the end of the IPL, and my internet has gone down from time to time but i havent experienced any lag or blackscreens from the IPL side. People are just tunneling in on the sound issues and the other issues that have snowballed today. But to say the whole tourney was bad is ignoring EVERYTHING else.


The production is up immensely from...what exactly? Dremhack and MLG were much better. IPL is better than NASL but then again who isn't?

Jjajki MMA is the only elimination game in the last hour when they skipped over 2 more. And also there have been a ton of stream lag issues and other things, you must just have not been paying attention.

Again this is certainly isn't a BAD tournament. It's just mediocre so far in terms of production value.

its mediocre compared to the previous IPL tournaments, which makes me sad. had such high hopes for IPL. wanted them to be a true competitor to MLG, which previously they were.



I completely disagree with MLG and dreamhack being better produced, and YES i have been paying attention, and NO i havent had lag. With the viewership, and the quality of games to say this wasnt a competitor to MLG is just completely ignorant.


I don't see how anyone can say this was better production than dreamhack. MLG you could debate but the recent championship was run so flawlessly I would disagree, but I also had a subscription for it so can't speak about the free experience.



Good point, i should stop assuming everyone im talking to is watching it free x.x lol. My bad on that one.
HGurryp
Profile Joined July 2011
275 Posts
April 07 2012 22:36 GMT
#4346
no more games?
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
April 07 2012 22:36 GMT
#4347
Nestea playing so well atm, if he wins ipl best play in world? :DDDDDDD
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
April 07 2012 22:36 GMT
#4348
I AM NESTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Warlike Prince
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
371 Posts
April 07 2012 22:36 GMT
#4349
is there a history between stephano and nestea ?
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
April 07 2012 22:36 GMT
#4350
On April 08 2012 07:36 00Visor wrote:
So, only Squirtle advances of the Open Bracket players.
A bit suprising.


Fatigue definitely plays a part imo.
abalam
Profile Joined October 2011
Switzerland316 Posts
April 07 2012 22:36 GMT
#4351
While I'm glad that Nestea won, I really didn't like his baneling usage, against a better player he would have been on the brink of loosing that game :/
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
April 07 2012 22:36 GMT
#4352
MKP and Stephano advancing, yay!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 07 2012 22:36 GMT
#4353
Are the games done for today in IPL? ( There's a separate thread for the GSTL finals )
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 07 2012 22:36 GMT
#4354
parting should just forfeit to ganzi, gstl is so much more important to prep for
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Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
April 07 2012 22:36 GMT
#4355
Squirtle is the only player from the open bracket to advance
bubl100500
Profile Joined March 2011
Ukraine538 Posts
April 07 2012 22:36 GMT
#4356
So is it hour and a half till GSTL? And will it be on ipl stream?
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 07 2012 22:37 GMT
#4357
On April 08 2012 07:29 iSunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 07:21 Fubi wrote:
On April 08 2012 07:14 eFonSG wrote:
On April 08 2012 07:08 Lonyo wrote:
On April 08 2012 07:05 give.ViviD wrote:
So for us who haven't been following the tournament, what has exactly been so bad about IPL 4? I mean so it's been perfectly fine!

Some of the casters have been really terrible.
There have been consistent stream issues (lag, black screen etc)
Sound has been terrible often (bad volume, mono-stereo not done properly, multiple stream's sounds coming through on one stream)
VERY important games haven't been streamed.

So apart from stream issues, video issues, sound issues and games being shown issues, it's been great!



I have had 0 stream issues, and there has been, more, equally as important games all of which were very high quality with 0 lag. Casting is a personal preference, and the obsing has been very very good. The games are the highest level, and just because stephano isnt shown doesnt mean important games arent being shown. From my point of view this tourney has been great.

There are definitely stream problems on IPL's side: just because you weren't watching at those time it doesn't mean it didn't happen. I mean I could be wrong, but if you had no stream problem, can you be so nice to tell us how exactly MC won against Squirtle in their 2nd game?

And for the games, the fact that they're showing Nestea vs Ganzi, when only seeding is on the line, over MKP vs Curiours which determines who advances; or how they didn't show Stephano when everyone wanted to see that.

The Observing is only good cuz they're borrowing GSL's observer (STLegend)

Let's not forget those awkward stage performance, and sound fails (random girl voices popping up for whole 5min DURING a match; caster's mic on during commercials, 2nd stream mic not working the whole day, etc)

You can try as hard as you want to pretend this tourney is good, but it doesn't change the fact that it's really really poorly executed in terms of production.

I didn´t have serious stream problems since IPL4 started. We even get a free 480p/60 stream that runs very well.

If that is not good enough for you, then maybe the problems are on your side. And pay $30 for MLG and be done with it. Don´t even know what there is to talk about. $5 for this and the other events that are included in $5 is more than we can hope for. You like some other people just really lost all your "facts" arguments long ago. I can understand that you can be upset that some games were not shown.

If IPL had asked for $50, yes, maybe we would see perfect execution everywhere, but let´s be real, this is basically a "free" tournament. MLG asks 4-6 times more money and they still are far from perfect. Now, choose which side you are on.

IPL asked for $60 a year, MLG asks for $90 a year and gives WAY more games.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
kckkryptonite
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1126 Posts
April 07 2012 22:37 GMT
#4358
On April 08 2012 07:35 Amokoma wrote:
Somewhere Artosis is having a massive man boner =)


Wth, as opposed to the woman boner?
RIP avilo, qxc keyboard 2013, RIP Nathanis keyboard 2014
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
April 07 2012 22:37 GMT
#4359
On April 08 2012 07:36 00Visor wrote:
So, only Squirtle advances of the Open Bracket players.
A bit suprising.


Creator and GhostKing did pretty well, too. Group C/D were the hardest from top to bottom.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
April 07 2012 22:37 GMT
#4360
On April 08 2012 07:36 L3g3nd_ wrote:
5 terran 2 zerg 1 protoss : ( this is depressing


sadly it's nothing new....
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