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This is not the place to talk about LoL viewership.

This is also not a place to caster bash/balance whine/flame, etc.

Please don't argue about how many views LoL has, or which game is better, or we will be upset.
(added page 174)

Also, lay off Scarlett please. (added page 227)
jeeneeus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1168 Posts
April 07 2012 03:57 GMT
#10341
4 out of the 8 in the winner's bracket finals are from Startale.
Ripper41
Profile Joined July 2011
284 Posts
April 07 2012 03:57 GMT
#10342
On April 07 2012 12:56 vndods wrote:
MKP > MMA until MMA doesn't suck at TvP

definitely.

MKP has a gsl win, MMA doesn't. until he matches him MKP > MMA
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
April 07 2012 03:57 GMT
#10343
On April 07 2012 12:56 Fionn wrote:
MMA > MKP TvZ
MKP >>> MMA TvP
MMA > MKP TvT

I guess it depends on how much you rate how bad MMA's TvP has been.

MMA's TvT isn't anything special either.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
April 07 2012 03:57 GMT
#10344
On April 07 2012 12:57 Ripper41 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 12:56 vndods wrote:
MKP > MMA until MMA doesn't suck at TvP

definitely.

MKP has a gsl win, MMA doesn't. until he matches him MKP > MMA

Wat.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 07 2012 03:57 GMT
#10345
WOOHOO! GanZi PartinG on stream2!!!!!! Rotti's casting too
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
April 07 2012 03:57 GMT
#10346
On April 07 2012 12:57 Ripper41 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 12:56 vndods wrote:
MKP > MMA until MMA doesn't suck at TvP

definitely.

MKP has a gsl win, MMA doesn't. until he matches him MKP > MMA


uh...i hate you tell you. you could make an argument. but. that wouldnt be one of your points.
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
April 07 2012 03:57 GMT
#10347
On April 07 2012 12:57 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 12:57 Ripper41 wrote:
On April 07 2012 12:56 vndods wrote:
MKP > MMA until MMA doesn't suck at TvP

definitely.

MKP has a gsl win, MMA doesn't. until he matches him MKP > MMA

Wat.

Lol seriously, wat.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 07 2012 03:57 GMT
#10348
On April 07 2012 12:56 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 12:55 Chicane wrote:
On April 07 2012 12:52 Sargonian wrote:
How can ya'll talk about MKP maybe being the best player when you watch MMA? His style is so much cleaner and less gimmicky


It is hard to call someone the best player when they look very weak in a matchup (TvP). It is easier to call someone like DRG or MKP the best for that reason imo. Still, I think MMA may be the best among a few others.


Agreed. MMA is great, but his tvp is awful. He lost to mana in iron squid and has looked bad in a lot of recent tvp games.


It's not even that his TvP is bad, as so much is inconsistent. He beat MC in GSL November, and barely lost to Oz later that season (2-3).

Season 1, he beat Oz twice (4-2) in GSL and once in GSTL (1-0). These are among the best Protoss in the world. He's capable of holding with the best Protoss, and also can end up losing to players like Choya.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
April 07 2012 03:58 GMT
#10349
On April 07 2012 12:56 vndods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 12:55 Whatson wrote:
On April 07 2012 12:54 Lennient wrote:
On April 07 2012 12:53 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 07 2012 12:52 Sargonian wrote:
How can ya'll talk about MKP maybe being the best player when you watch MMA? His style is so much cleaner and less gimmicky


Who actually thinks MKP is the best player o.O lol

IPL 4 Power rank on the front page, but again MKP's TvP is much better than MMA and MKP is capable of beating any zerg player.

He has weaker TvT though, from what I've seen of it recently

MMA's TvT isn't too special either, unless its against MVP

lol true
¯\_(シ)_/¯
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
April 07 2012 03:58 GMT
#10350
On April 07 2012 12:56 Fionn wrote:
MMA > MKP TvZ
MKP >>> MMA TvP
MMA > MKP TvT

I guess it depends on how much you rate how bad MMA's TvP has been.


MMA 2 championships.

MKP 0.

ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1777 Posts
April 07 2012 03:58 GMT
#10351
Rotterdam looks like a partier. No wonder he just randomly showed up in Vegas.
SeventhPride
Profile Joined February 2012
712 Posts
April 07 2012 03:58 GMT
#10352
On April 07 2012 12:56 NGrNecris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 12:55 Sargonian wrote:
On April 07 2012 12:53 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 07 2012 12:52 Sargonian wrote:
How can ya'll talk about MKP maybe being the best player when you watch MMA? His style is so much cleaner and less gimmicky


Who actually thinks MKP is the best player o.O lol


People were talking about it earlier

A lot of people agree including nestea that MKP MMA and MVP are the top 3 terrans

Nestea?? I love Mr T, but he needs to win gsl again to prove he still has it. When is his group btw? Been so long
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
April 07 2012 03:58 GMT
#10353
crap Rotterdam casting while i should go to sleep, have to work in 4 hours.... not good
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
April 07 2012 03:58 GMT
#10354
On April 07 2012 12:57 vndods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 12:56 Fionn wrote:
MMA > MKP TvZ
MKP >>> MMA TvP
MMA > MKP TvT

I guess it depends on how much you rate how bad MMA's TvP has been.

MMA's TvT isn't anything special either.


Meh, true, but I prefer it slightly over MKP's.

The only match-up that is severely in another player's favor is MKP's vP vs. MMA's horrendous vP.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 07 2012 03:58 GMT
#10355
Ganzi ninjaing the island.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 07 2012 03:58 GMT
#10356
On April 07 2012 12:57 Ripper41 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 12:56 vndods wrote:
MKP > MMA until MMA doesn't suck at TvP

definitely.

MKP has a gsl win, MMA doesn't. until he matches him MKP > MMA


MMA? MKP? Are you confused? MKP has not won a GSL.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
April 07 2012 03:58 GMT
#10357
On April 07 2012 12:57 Ripper41 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 12:56 vndods wrote:
MKP > MMA until MMA doesn't suck at TvP

definitely.

MKP has a gsl win, MMA doesn't. until he matches him MKP > MMA


MMA has a GSL win

MKP doesn't
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
April 07 2012 03:58 GMT
#10358
On April 07 2012 12:56 NGrNecris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 12:55 Sargonian wrote:
On April 07 2012 12:53 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 07 2012 12:52 Sargonian wrote:
How can ya'll talk about MKP maybe being the best player when you watch MMA? His style is so much cleaner and less gimmicky


Who actually thinks MKP is the best player o.O lol


People were talking about it earlier

A lot of people agree including nestea that MKP MMA and MVP are the top 3 terrans




MVP has been in the biggest slump as of late. January was the last time I can recall him winning anything and that was just making it to Ro16 in the GSL.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
April 07 2012 03:58 GMT
#10359
On April 07 2012 12:56 Fionn wrote:
MMA > MKP TvZ
MKP >>> MMA TvP
MMA > MKP TvT

I guess it depends on how much you rate how bad MMA's TvP has been.


I wouldn't say for sure that MMA> MKP TvT, MKP has improved a ton in tvt recently, where as MMA has comfortably lost to the likes of aLive and PuMa.

Would be a pretty even series imo.

IMNasty
Profile Joined February 2012
663 Posts
April 07 2012 03:58 GMT
#10360
proxy CC on stream 2 parting vs ganzi
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