EPT[IPL] ToC Losers Final and GRAND Final! (Day 15) - Page 13
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SwizzY
United States1549 Posts
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Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
On April 03 2012 11:07 SwizzY wrote: Although I think HerO could have made the finals much more closer, still gg's from Jjakji and Creator All three players today had some ridiculous games in the tournament. Is so nice to see Koreans playing on Korea server, was a bit ESV Korean Weekly'esque, with less adventurous maps but more star power. All in all I have really, really enjoyed the tournament. And it is amazing to have Jjakji ending up taking the spot for IPL4. What a marvelous event that is shaping up to be. | ||
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tuho12345
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Kubricks
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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midftw
Canada170 Posts
On April 03 2012 11:37 Kubricks wrote: I have a feeling IPL4 is going to crush MLG in viewership with the excitement that's building up around both the Open Bracket and Pool Play for it. are you sherlock holmes' descendant? ipl has over 5 times mlg's prize pool and that alone guarantees your statement. it would be a feeling if the tournaments had a similar prizepool and you're actually risking something. All you're doing is saying something obvious and that you have a feeling that it will happen. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On April 03 2012 11:07 SwizzY wrote: Although I think HerO could have made the finals much more closer, still gg's from Jjakji and Creator Maybe, but we'll never know for sure. But Jjakji's play today was amazing, I don't think Hero could have done much against it either. | ||
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Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
On April 03 2012 12:08 Bagration wrote: Maybe, but we'll never know for sure. But Jjakji's play today was amazing, I don't think Hero could have done much against it either. Jjakji's TvP certainly looked a cut above just above any Protoss I can think of at the moment. Perhaps someone not playing for a standard Protoss three base style would fare better, as much as TvP late game can look ugly for Terran, Jjakji makes it look Terran favored with such gorgeous positioning and engagements. Going heavy Colossi certainly looks ugly against him. | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On April 03 2012 12:15 Porcelina wrote: Jjakji's TvP certainly looked a cut above just above any Protoss I can think of at the moment. Perhaps someone not playing for a standard Protoss three base style would fare better, as much as TvP late game can look ugly for Terran, Jjakji makes it look Terran favored with such gorgeous positioning and engagements. Going heavy Colossi certainly looks ugly against him. Yeah Jjakji's TvP has got to be one of the best in starcraft 2 currently. Can probably make a good debate of whether Jjakji or MKP have the current best TvP in the metagame, I don't know if any other terran players do so well at TvP in recent form? Polt and Thorzain used to be unstoppable in TvP and now, though still good, I probably wouldn't bet on them on MU alone regardless of the opponent like I would Jjakji or MKP. Maybe Puma. Is there anyone else at this level in TvP you guys can identify? ELO has Bomber, alive, Supernova and Taeja up there, but imo both Bomber and Supernova's TvP has fallen from it's previous level. Supernova did top his group with just TvP but still. | ||
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Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
On April 03 2012 12:50 bittman wrote: Yeah Jjakji's TvP has got to be one of the best in starcraft 2 currently. Can probably make a good debate of whether Jjakji or MKP have the current best TvP in the metagame, I don't know if any other terran players do so well at TvP in recent form? Polt and Thorzain used to be unstoppable in TvP and now, though still good, I probably wouldn't bet on them on MU alone regardless of the opponent like I would Jjakji or MKP. Maybe Puma. Is there anyone else at this level in TvP you guys can identify? ELO has Bomber, alive, Supernova and Taeja up there, but imo both Bomber and Supernova's TvP has fallen from it's previous level. Supernova did top his group with just TvP but still. Not sure how I would rank players in TvP right now. I do however feel that the matchup is in a state of flux; in my estimation it has been set back greatly when it comes to actual development due to the six months of 1-1-1 being so prevalent in Korea. Whereas just about every other matchup being developed and maturing during that time, TvP late game was largely unexplored and seemed very Protoss favored in many ways. I think it will still take some time for us to get the full picture of what is going on there. Jjakji's late game and MKP's early to midgame certainly look very strong; it seems as if many of the things that made Terran look very susceptible to both early game pressure and late game domination by Protoss have been largely counteracted by two different styles. At the very highest level, I think we need to see Protoss develop even more to contest with MKP and Jjakji for sure. Which means more babysitting of the deathball, better micro and positioning as well as other things that will come with experimentation and maturing. As much as TvP sometimes holds true to the stereotype of having one deciding battle and the losing side never recovering, I am not convinced that will be the ultimate fate of the matchup. It might still be the case of course, but I am very much thinking that, as players become better in all aspects of the game, we will see a lot more coming out of both sides. Certainly it is good to see people with extreme skill sets such as Jjakji's positioning and micro in end game confrontations and MKP's early game aggression transitioning into midgame harass and never letting the Protoss really breathe come to a forefront. I would very much hope at least that we will see the games where both sides just macro up to three bases and one side wins will be forgotten in good time. Just kind of amazed by both Jjakji and MKP at the moment. And feel very happy to see such strong play emerge in a matchup that so often feels very uneventful and largely lopsided. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On April 03 2012 11:50 songohan wrote: are you sherlock holmes' descendant? ipl has over 5 times mlg's prize pool and that alone guarantees your statement. it would be a feeling if the tournaments had a similar prizepool and you're actually risking something. All you're doing is saying something obvious and that you have a feeling that it will happen. Prize pool means very little, it matters who's coming. MLG was killer last year in the excitement it brought. It's waned down so much, for me at least. And that was back when the winner only got $5k. | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38256 Posts
Oh man I'm so happy for Jjakji, hope he enjoys himself and manages to make a good run. He played one hell of a tournament here at least =) | ||
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
What a boss | ||
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NoGasfOu
United States1117 Posts
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Tidus Mino
United Kingdom1108 Posts
On April 03 2012 10:54 StarVe wrote: WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! Jjakji so good, first NSHoSeo player at a foreign event! I'm pumped! Nope, San was at MLG arena, but he didn't do that well  | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
I still can't understand how Jjakji guessed for the 4gate. It's just.. what tip him off ? I just can't see. This kid is seriously .. wow.. | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On April 03 2012 23:50 Tidus Mino wrote: Nope, San was at MLG arena, but he didn't do that well Ahh, right. Stupid me, forgetting Winter Arena because I didn't watch it. Sorry, San! Anyway, Jjakji will do well and make NSHoSeo proud! Only if he doesn't get too many TvTs, though. | ||
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