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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 01 2012 20:21 GMT
#221
How is MMA not good at TvP? He has great bio-play, great dropping, great multitasking, all skills key in TvP, yet his TvP is so lackluster compared to his other MU. It's mind-boggling.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
ydeer1993
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom569 Posts
April 01 2012 20:21 GMT
#222
On April 02 2012 05:19 ragnorr wrote:
watching the difference of mkps and mmas TvP is just immense



ya seems like you need insane micro to beat P sometimes, but hopefully MMA wins, rlly want him and life/jjakji out of this grp!
**MMA** - MVP - Seed !
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 01 2012 20:21 GMT
#223
Hmm, MMA going 0-2 makes this group very weird.
milesfacade
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom799 Posts
April 01 2012 20:23 GMT
#224
My prediction is we'll see 2-base tank play in the rest of the series from mma and he'll take the win.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4254 Posts
April 01 2012 20:25 GMT
#225
MMA

Come on! You got this! Comeback gogogo!

Then again in the beginning TB said that even if this ends 2-0 im sure we'll see great games...so Im not sure if he accidently spoiled the result or if he was just expecting MMA to crush this...
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
April 01 2012 20:25 GMT
#226
If Mana beats MMA, Stephano still got a chance to make it out of this group...
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
April 01 2012 20:26 GMT
#227
Awesome Mana !!! MMA with no efficient drop as he usually does, Mana made not many mistakes, though he did lost his colossus too easily. But great win from Mana, so happy he killed MMA on the first set ! Hope he can beat him !
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
April 01 2012 20:27 GMT
#228
On April 02 2012 05:25 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
If Mana beats MMA, Stephano still got a chance to make it out of this group...

still going to be hard for him to beat jjakji and mma
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
April 01 2012 20:27 GMT
#229
On April 02 2012 05:27 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 05:25 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
If Mana beats MMA, Stephano still got a chance to make it out of this group...

still going to be hard for him to beat jjakji and mma


At least, he doesn't need to beat them both.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
April 01 2012 20:28 GMT
#230
On April 02 2012 05:25 KobraKay wrote:
MMA

Come on! You got this! Comeback gogogo!

Then again in the beginning TB said that even if this ends 2-0 im sure we'll see great games...so Im not sure if he accidently spoiled the result or if he was just expecting MMA to crush this...

Mana did it for the 1st set man !
tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
April 01 2012 20:31 GMT
#231
dudes look at liquipedia how american are non-koreans xD (it's not me) is this for 1st april fooling stuff?
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 01 2012 20:32 GMT
#232
On April 02 2012 05:31 tns wrote:
dudes look at liquipedia how american are non-koreans xD (it's not me) is this for 1st april fooling stuff?


Yes. Happy April Fools day!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 20:39:41
April 01 2012 20:33 GMT
#233
On April 02 2012 05:28 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 05:25 KobraKay wrote:
MMA

Come on! You got this! Comeback gogogo!

Then again in the beginning TB said that even if this ends 2-0 im sure we'll see great games...so Im not sure if he accidently spoiled the result or if he was just expecting MMA to crush this...

Mana did it for the 1st set man !


Im sorry I dont understand your point? Are you trying to say that Mana crushed the first game? If that is the case, that was my point...If TB slipped we know who wins the second game...if he was just expecting MMA to win 2-0 then there is chance for a comeback. This was my point, Im sorry if I didnt make it clear.

I tried but I stil dont get your post


EDIT: Im happy to be wrong! Comeback is possible! Gogo MMA
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
April 01 2012 20:36 GMT
#234
On April 02 2012 05:21 Bagration wrote:
How is MMA not good at TvP? He has great bio-play, great dropping, great multitasking, all skills key in TvP, yet his TvP is so lackluster compared to his other MU. It's mind-boggling.


It doesn't always make sense. Most of the time, it comes down to how much you have practiced and understood the matchup, rather than pure mechanics. I suspect that MMA just hasn't found his comfort zone in TvP yet, whereas in TvZ he knows the timings and feels safer doing his trademark play.

MKP used to have mediocre TvP. Until the start of this year, MC's worst matchup was PvZ, even losing to Sen in PPSL (not in TLPD). Both of them went back to Korea, practiced the fuck out of the matchup and are now utter beasts. MMA just hasn't managed to reach that point in TvP.

Of course, the fact that Mana's best matchup is PvT by a mile probably compounds the problem.
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
April 01 2012 20:39 GMT
#235
It's really weird, that they don't know the new MMA build. Haven't they seen IEM? It was obvious what he was gonna do after he threw 2 gas.
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
April 01 2012 20:40 GMT
#236
On April 02 2012 05:23 milesfacade wrote:
My prediction is we'll see 2-base tank play in the rest of the series from mma and he'll take the win.


He's a witch, burn him!
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
April 01 2012 20:40 GMT
#237
On April 02 2012 05:36 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 05:21 Bagration wrote:
How is MMA not good at TvP? He has great bio-play, great dropping, great multitasking, all skills key in TvP, yet his TvP is so lackluster compared to his other MU. It's mind-boggling.


It doesn't always make sense. Most of the time, it comes down to how much you have practiced and understood the matchup, rather than pure mechanics. I suspect that MMA just hasn't found his comfort zone in TvP yet, whereas in TvZ he knows the timings and feels safer doing his trademark play.

MKP used to have mediocre TvP. Until the start of this year, MC's worst matchup was PvZ, even losing to Sen in PPSL (not in TLPD). Both of them went back to Korea, practiced the fuck out of the matchup and are now utter beasts. MMA just hasn't managed to reach that point in TvP.

Of course, the fact that Mana's best matchup is PvT by a mile probably compounds the problem.


...MKP always had great TvP.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 01 2012 20:44 GMT
#238
1 more game MMA, and you're through.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 01 2012 20:44 GMT
#239
On April 02 2012 05:25 KobraKay wrote:
MMA

Come on! You got this! Comeback gogogo!

Then again in the beginning TB said that even if this ends 2-0 im sure we'll see great games...so Im not sure if he accidently spoiled the result or if he was just expecting MMA to crush this...


How could I spoil a result I did not know to begin with?

We don't prewatch replays
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
milesfacade
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom799 Posts
April 01 2012 20:45 GMT
#240
On April 02 2012 05:40 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2012 05:23 milesfacade wrote:
My prediction is we'll see 2-base tank play in the rest of the series from mma and he'll take the win.


He's a witch, burn him!


1 more game to go before you can condemn me ^_^
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