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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
March 27 2012 11:39 GMT
#1061
On March 27 2012 20:36 quirinus wrote:
Stream lagging/choppy for anyone? :S

HQ is choppy for me.. but I'm kinda used to it. After a certain time it gets choppy. Not sure if its my ISP or just that GOM servers get overloaded at that time.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 27 2012 11:39 GMT
#1062
On March 27 2012 20:35 Khaldor wrote:
WE are not bashing players guys. I dont know why you dont get this.... We are pointing out things that they can improve on and having no second forge with 2000/2000 banked up is definitely something you can do in order to get farther ahead. Dunno how often we pointed out how great their unit control ist.

A lot of these comments here are just people hating because they want to hate. I have the feeling some dont even pay attention to what we actually say. Pretty sad to be honest


The majority appreciates what you're doing, don't worry about a few haters.

Great cast tonight btw, worthy of Code S imo.
rfoster
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1005 Posts
March 27 2012 11:40 GMT
#1063
Ugh I hate the fact that they actually have to say on stream that the players are good and kind of apologize for being critical. Its their job to do so they shouldn't have to apologize
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
March 27 2012 11:40 GMT
#1064
wow, I love Khaldor, think he's better than some of the other Code A casters, but he is very sensitive to criticism. When he casts on his stream, he really gets offended by the trolls and becomes defensive. Just ignore like all the other casters do.
joshie0808
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1024 Posts
March 27 2012 11:40 GMT
#1065
On March 27 2012 20:39 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 20:36 quirinus wrote:
Stream lagging/choppy for anyone? :S

HQ is choppy for me.. but I'm kinda used to it. After a certain time it gets choppy. Not sure if its my ISP or just that GOM servers get overloaded at that time.


Stream is fine for me =)
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
March 27 2012 11:40 GMT
#1066
Actually, the casters got the game right - the game was lost when Curious refused to tech to Hive
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 27 2012 11:40 GMT
#1067
I should not have used the word "bashing" alright, but english is not my first language and I didn't quite grasp the negative connotation carried by the word. But I don't think it's Khaldor's job to "criticize" players on things they "can improve" anyway. Saying on air "He should just macro and multitask better" is like saying to athletes "RUN FASTER!". Everybody knows you can do that better, but it's actually very hard to improve on that at their level.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
March 27 2012 11:40 GMT
#1068
On March 27 2012 20:35 Khaldor wrote:
WE are not bashing players guys. I dont know why you dont get this.... We are pointing out things that they can improve on and having no second forge with 2000/2000 banked up is definitely something you can do in order to get farther ahead. Dunno how often we pointed out how great their unit control ist.

A lot of these comments here are just people hating because they want to hate. I have the feeling some dont even pay attention to what we actually say. Pretty sad to be honest

Don't worry about a vocal minority. I never post in live report threads, and I'm sure most don't, and I am enjoying. Just look at the number of viewers, and think that of those only a few are annoyed enough to cry about it on TL. pretty good imo.
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
March 27 2012 11:40 GMT
#1069
maru looks so chubby cute.
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
March 27 2012 11:41 GMT
#1070
Wolf used to be my favorite caster -.-
I can't understand why he's starting to cast like moletrap.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
March 27 2012 11:41 GMT
#1071
On March 27 2012 20:35 teamamerica wrote:
For someone who came up known for beastly vs Z, HerO vs Z not looking so strong in the last 3 games I've seen him in (Code S and GSTL). His vT has reached beast levels though apparently. Hope Maru can do some drop-everywhere strategy and test HerO multitasking. I think that's his best bet as HerO has pretty good 200/200 deathball management I think.


His ZvP has always looked shaky vs top Zergs. My personal feeling is that his ZvP style (FFE but with a general unwillingness to commit, always trying for management games) gives the very top Zergs too much room to maneouver. I agree he made some uncharacteristic execution errors in his last ZvPs though.

His PvT is looking absolutely beastly right now though, he has an excellent shot to make it out of this group now I think.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
b0rt_
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway931 Posts
March 27 2012 11:41 GMT
#1072
yeah casters bashing Hero, call the TL 12 year old police squad
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
March 27 2012 11:41 GMT
#1073
On March 27 2012 20:39 UNeeK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 20:32 ZenithM wrote:
On March 27 2012 20:30 Pure-SC2 wrote:
Sad that Khaldor is critising Hero for not preparing for a mothership when he's constantly microing on two fronts and holding off the pressure while applying it himself, and doing enough damage to win the game.

Thats the time you give props to the player for playing such a strong aggressive style.

Yeah, wtf Khaldor.
Then Wolf says "Look at Hero's money" to say like "He's got a huge bank anyway" and Khaldor understood it as "God his macro is just awful and he could have had a mothership".
Khaldor should really learn his place and stop bashing top players like that...



Since everyone's on this kick to make eSports known worldwide, etc. etc. why would you want that? If someone throws an interception, makes a bad pass, misses a block, gets a penalty, or any other type of blunder in any other "real" sport, they don't make excuses for them... like well he would have caught that pass but he was running so fast down the field which was amazing!!!, that he didnt catch it! No...

These are professionals, playing for money, as a living. Why protect them from their blunders, I guarantee HerO agrees that he let his macro slip - and there is no reason to hide it with excuses like he was under intense micro battles throughout the game, I've seen plenty of players who can maintain high level macro while microing their hearts out (see: MKP @ MLG), I've seen HerO do it, but this game is not an example of that...

It just kind of upsets me when people get butthurt that casters call out players for blunders, they are professionals...


This is especially true because when you only name the positives every game when people actually play a perfect game it becomes less special.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
March 27 2012 11:42 GMT
#1074
On March 27 2012 20:41 Orome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 20:35 teamamerica wrote:
For someone who came up known for beastly vs Z, HerO vs Z not looking so strong in the last 3 games I've seen him in (Code S and GSTL). His vT has reached beast levels though apparently. Hope Maru can do some drop-everywhere strategy and test HerO multitasking. I think that's his best bet as HerO has pretty good 200/200 deathball management I think.


His ZvP has always looked shaky vs top Zergs. My personal feeling is that his ZvP style (FFE but with a general unwillingness to commit, always trying for management games) gives the very top Zergs too much room to maneouver. I agree he made some uncharacteristic execution errors in his last ZvPs though.

His PvT is looking absolutely beastly right now though, he has an excellent shot to make it out of this group now I think.


Sup son
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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
March 27 2012 11:42 GMT
#1075
On March 27 2012 20:40 ZenithM wrote:
I should not have used the word "bashing" alright, but english is not my first language and I didn't quite grasp the negative connotation carried by the word. But I don't think it's Khaldor's job to "criticize" players on things they "can improve" anyway. Saying on air "He should just macro and multitask better" is like saying to athletes "RUN FASTER!". Everybody knows you can do that better, but it's actually very hard to improve on that at their level.


So you're saying players at the top level don't improve? What?
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7997 Posts
March 27 2012 11:42 GMT
#1076
big mistake by hero 4 mins into the game :/
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
March 27 2012 11:42 GMT
#1077
Maru allin incoming!
teamamerica
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 11:44:44
March 27 2012 11:42 GMT
#1078
On March 27 2012 20:41 Orome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 20:35 teamamerica wrote:
For someone who came up known for beastly vs Z, HerO vs Z not looking so strong in the last 3 games I've seen him in (Code S and GSTL). His vT has reached beast levels though apparently. Hope Maru can do some drop-everywhere strategy and test HerO multitasking. I think that's his best bet as HerO has pretty good 200/200 deathball management I think.


His ZvP has always looked shaky vs top Zergs. My personal feeling is that his ZvP style (FFE but with a general unwillingness to commit, always trying for management games) gives the very top Zergs too much room to maneouver. I agree he made some uncharacteristic execution errors in his last ZvPs though.

His PvT is looking absolutely beastly right now though, he has an excellent shot to make it out of this group now I think.


Ah, so it's not just been lately where he goes for the LETS EXPAND HIM TO DEATH strategy?

edit: btw always excited to see things I haven't in a while. fake 1-1-1 into stim bio with medivacs (I think) vs slightly delayed expo. Maru doing the mass drops hopefully!

edit2: LOL while I type...Maru going for same 1-1-1 that won vs Genius?
RIP GOMTV. RIP PROLEAGUE.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
March 27 2012 11:43 GMT
#1079
On March 27 2012 20:38 BuzZoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 20:34 ES.Genie wrote:
On March 27 2012 20:32 ZenithM wrote:
On March 27 2012 20:30 Pure-SC2 wrote:
Sad that Khaldor is critising Hero for not preparing for a mothership when he's constantly microing on two fronts and holding off the pressure while applying it himself, and doing enough damage to win the game.

Thats the time you give props to the player for playing such a strong aggressive style.

Yeah, wtf Khaldor.
Then Wolf says "Look at Hero's money" to say like "He's got a huge bank anyway" and Khaldor understood it as "God his macro is just awful and he could have had a mothership".
Khaldor should really learn his place and stop bashing top players like that...

You should stop interpreting every bit of critisism as bashing/flaming. Makes you look quite immature to be honest.


The thing is that Tastosis tend to have a good mix of positivity/criticism. Obviously some games are just bad and they aren't afraid to say so. Yet they highlight the good things players do along with the bad. Wolfdor is a very good tandem imo but they tend to devolve into a circlejerk of who can point out the most things the players are doing wrong and often focus on that rather than the thing the other player did to expose the mistake. I would rather have that instead of overhyped crap but I think it is something they can fine-tune if they want to go from good to great.

I can't watch the games but well said
beep boop
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
March 27 2012 11:43 GMT
#1080
Stim tank+ medivac timing incoming? So common nowadays..
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