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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
March 15 2012 11:41 GMT
#1061
scantipedes prefer warmer climates guys!
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 15 2012 11:42 GMT
#1062
On March 15 2012 20:38 Ketch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 20:36 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:31 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:28 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:26 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:22 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:20 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:17 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:16 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
Sigh, if HuK gets into Code S off this garbage, it'll be sad.

garbage? Dude just had an amazing hold.


He hasn't been tested yet at all. Just because he holds can hold an roach-ling all in doesn't mean he's Code S caliber at all.

Unfortunately Up and Down matches force people to play funky to win 1v1.

I would say Lucky wins that game 9 times out of 10 if he plays standard.

the guy was in Code S for months and just took third at MLG Winter Arena, a stacked tournament. Its ridiculous the amount of hate this guy gets.


In a Code S format that was NOTORIOUS for keeping in undeserving people. Funny how as soon as it was changed he dropped out....

And LOL. MLG Winter Arena. He had the easiest run of anyone with his best match up played several times.

I mean come on, Minigun?

I'm not saying he's the worst player ever. But he isn't Top 2 in this group.

Even in that format he still advanced far enough to avoid up and down matches. He dropped down because he took a long break before this last GSL season.

He beat Ret who has amazing ZvP and took out Oz, who may have the best PvP in the world. Easiest run in MLG Winter Arena wasn't easy at all.


Just because it wasn't easy, doesnt mean it wasnt the easiest.

Unless you'd rather face Nestea, Leenock and DRG like Naniwa had to instead of Ret.

Huk doesnt control the brackets. Huk also just beat Lucky who has completely owned Naniwa multiple times.


Haha, A > B, B > C, therefore A >> C. That only works with numbers

of course, but Naniwa's run at MLG Winter Arena has nothing to do with Huk's run or skill as they never played.

In GSL Huk has had far more success than Naniwa.


On March 15 2012 20:38 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 20:38 sickle wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:31 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:28 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:26 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:22 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:20 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:17 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:16 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
Sigh, if HuK gets into Code S off this garbage, it'll be sad.

garbage? Dude just had an amazing hold.


He hasn't been tested yet at all. Just because he holds can hold an roach-ling all in doesn't mean he's Code S caliber at all.

Unfortunately Up and Down matches force people to play funky to win 1v1.

I would say Lucky wins that game 9 times out of 10 if he plays standard.

the guy was in Code S for months and just took third at MLG Winter Arena, a stacked tournament. Its ridiculous the amount of hate this guy gets.


In a Code S format that was NOTORIOUS for keeping in undeserving people. Funny how as soon as it was changed he dropped out....

And LOL. MLG Winter Arena. He had the easiest run of anyone with his best match up played several times.

I mean come on, Minigun?

I'm not saying he's the worst player ever. But he isn't Top 2 in this group.

Even in that format he still advanced far enough to avoid up and down matches. He dropped down because he took a long break before this last GSL season.

He beat Ret who has amazing ZvP and took out Oz, who may have the best PvP in the world. Easiest run in MLG Winter Arena wasn't easy at all.


Just because it wasn't easy, doesnt mean it wasnt the easiest.

Unless you'd rather face Nestea, Leenock and DRG like Naniwa had to instead of Ret.


Huk would have faced MVP if Ret didn't knock him down.


MVP no longer has wrists. Your argument is invalid.

And yet he is still probably the second best Terran in the world and a top 5 player in the world.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Niiza
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom60 Posts
March 15 2012 11:42 GMT
#1063
On March 15 2012 20:36 ftd.rain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 20:35 -TesteR- wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:33 Niiza wrote:
Still shocked that Lucky 1 base all in'd on THAT map...


Lucky afraid of macro game vs huk

No, he was afraid he would'be too behind since he went gas pool vs nexus first, it was the natural and smartest response to allin, people should really try to think more, it helps.


Yeah sure that was really smart play by Lucky. If you say so. I guess you also think toss can get a third base up on that map and macro to victory.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
March 15 2012 11:42 GMT
#1064
What am I listening to
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
March 15 2012 11:42 GMT
#1065
On March 15 2012 20:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Did Killer used to be a Terran, or is my memory terrible?


Killed used to be Sangho, who certainly wasn't a terran
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
March 15 2012 11:42 GMT
#1066
On March 15 2012 20:40 Ketch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 20:39 0ne wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:36 Fionn wrote:
I hope Lucky six pools.

u sixpoll?


Sixpoll?

+ Show Spoiler +


Poll: Should Lucky have Six Pooled?

Yes (10)
 
91%

No (1)
 
9%

11 total votes

Your vote: Should Lucky have Six Pooled?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No




Poll: Should Lucky have Six Pooled?

Yes (10)
 
91%

No (1)
 
9%

11 total votes

Your vote: Should Lucky have Six Pooled?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No




Poll: Should Lucky have Six Pooled?

Yes (10)
 
91%

No (1)
 
9%

11 total votes

Your vote: Should Lucky have Six Pooled?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No




Poll: Should Lucky have Six Pooled?

Yes (10)
 
91%

No (1)
 
9%

11 total votes

Your vote: Should Lucky have Six Pooled?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No




Poll: Should Lucky have Six Pooled?

Yes (10)
 
91%

No (1)
 
9%

11 total votes

Your vote: Should Lucky have Six Pooled?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No




Poll: Should Lucky have Six Pooled?

Yes (10)
 
91%

No (1)
 
9%

11 total votes

Your vote: Should Lucky have Six Pooled?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No





LIES. It's just 1 poll repeated 6 times.
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
March 15 2012 11:42 GMT
#1067
On March 15 2012 20:39 Fionn wrote:
DRG screws up the Zv stats on this map.

He's 40-8 across both versions and worldwide. Completely ridiculous.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
March 15 2012 11:43 GMT
#1068
On March 15 2012 20:42 Severian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 20:39 Fionn wrote:
DRG screws up the Zv stats on this map.

He's 40-8 across both versions and worldwide. Completely ridiculous.


You might as well rename it to Dong sight
woody60707
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1863 Posts
March 15 2012 11:44 GMT
#1069
Hellions vs spines. I wonder who wins.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
March 15 2012 11:45 GMT
#1070
On March 15 2012 20:40 KristofferAG wrote:
(T)StarTale_Virus v (Z)FXOLucky

Map:
Dual Sight

5.00
(T)StarTale_Virus spawning as the red terran in the right position.
(Z)FXOLucky spawning as the blue zerg in the left position.

Lucky goes for the extractor trick after an Overlord on 10.
Virus goes for a 12-rax and a 13-Refinery.

Lucky goes Hatchery first into an Extractor and Spawning Pool.
There's a Scantipede on Virus' ramp.

Factory placed down as 100 gas is reached for Virus. Reactor down immediately at 50 gas.
Lucky goes double queen before Speed.

Virus swaps around his Factory and Barracks, starts Hellion production. Second CC started.


10.00

Another Refinery and Factory added on for Virus. CC finishes up.
Spine Crawler built at the natural of Lucky.

Blue Flame upgrade on the way for Virus, Hellion production continuing.
Starport also added on.

Two more Spine Crawlers placed on the natural of Lucky.
Macro Hatchery started for Lucky. Baneling Nest placed down as well. Adding on more Spines.

Overlord from Lucky scouts everything in Virus' main.
Another Factory from Virus as Medivac production starts.

Roach Warren and Lair started for Lucky. 3 Extractors added on.
Siege Tank production started

Virus try to go for a drop, but it's spotted and Virus pulls back.
Hellions try to make it into the natural of Lucky, but the Spines keep him back.

Virus decides to clean up the creep tumors from Lucky.
Another CC, Engineering Bay and Armory added on for Virus. Siege Tech finishing up.

Another drop in the natural of Lucky goes down, nice drop micro kills a bunch of lings and some banes for only two Hellions.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
March 15 2012 11:45 GMT
#1071
amazing play by HuK against lucky, such a clutch hold
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
March 15 2012 11:45 GMT
#1072
something is wrong with the killer-brown results in OP
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
March 15 2012 11:45 GMT
#1073
YES! MECH! This is what we wanna see. Something that is viable lategame, please make it work Viruuuus
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
CursivE
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia317 Posts
March 15 2012 11:45 GMT
#1074
On March 15 2012 20:43 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 20:42 Severian wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:39 Fionn wrote:
DRG screws up the Zv stats on this map.

He's 40-8 across both versions and worldwide. Completely ridiculous.


You might as well rename it to Dong sight


Sounds like a porn film. >_>
MC || HuK || MMA || Squirtle || TLO || Sea || HerO || MarineKing || MVP || NesTea
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-15 11:47:14
March 15 2012 11:46 GMT
#1075
Euh, muta vs mech ?

nvm, just to clear up some helions, i was afraid he would actualy focus on it.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
March 15 2012 11:46 GMT
#1076
This group is so weak TT
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
March 15 2012 11:46 GMT
#1077
On March 15 2012 20:39 Fionn wrote:
DRG screws up the Zv stats on this map.


Broodwar had a map like that where Terrans never won except for Flash.

I believe it was a map with stacked destructible temples.
-_-Quails
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia796 Posts
March 15 2012 11:47 GMT
#1078
On March 15 2012 20:38 Ketch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 20:36 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:31 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:28 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:26 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:22 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:20 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:17 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 15 2012 20:16 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
Sigh, if HuK gets into Code S off this garbage, it'll be sad.

garbage? Dude just had an amazing hold.


He hasn't been tested yet at all. Just because he holds can hold an roach-ling all in doesn't mean he's Code S caliber at all.

Unfortunately Up and Down matches force people to play funky to win 1v1.

I would say Lucky wins that game 9 times out of 10 if he plays standard.

the guy was in Code S for months and just took third at MLG Winter Arena, a stacked tournament. Its ridiculous the amount of hate this guy gets.


In a Code S format that was NOTORIOUS for keeping in undeserving people. Funny how as soon as it was changed he dropped out....

And LOL. MLG Winter Arena. He had the easiest run of anyone with his best match up played several times.

I mean come on, Minigun?

I'm not saying he's the worst player ever. But he isn't Top 2 in this group.

Even in that format he still advanced far enough to avoid up and down matches. He dropped down because he took a long break before this last GSL season.

He beat Ret who has amazing ZvP and took out Oz, who may have the best PvP in the world. Easiest run in MLG Winter Arena wasn't easy at all.


Just because it wasn't easy, doesnt mean it wasnt the easiest.

Unless you'd rather face Nestea, Leenock and DRG like Naniwa had to instead of Ret.

Huk doesnt control the brackets. Huk also just beat Lucky who has completely owned Naniwa multiple times.


Haha, A > B, B > C, therefore A >> C. That only works with numbers

I would characterize the statement as PvZ(a)>ZvP(b) ^ PvZ(c)<ZvP(b) -> PvZ(a)>PvZ(c).
/Now to resist the temptation to formally describe player skill.
"I post only when my brain works." - Reaper9
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
March 15 2012 11:47 GMT
#1079
On March 15 2012 20:45 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 20:40 KristofferAG wrote:
(T)StarTale_Virus v (Z)FXOLucky

Map:
Dual Sight

5.00
(T)StarTale_Virus spawning as the red terran in the right position.
(Z)FXOLucky spawning as the blue zerg in the left position.

Lucky goes for the extractor trick after an Overlord on 10.
Virus goes for a 12-rax and a 13-Refinery.

Lucky goes Hatchery first into an Extractor and Spawning Pool.
There's a Scantipede on Virus' ramp.

Factory placed down as 100 gas is reached for Virus. Reactor down immediately at 50 gas.
Lucky goes double queen before Speed.

Virus swaps around his Factory and Barracks, starts Hellion production. Second CC started.


10.00

Another Refinery and Factory added on for Virus. CC finishes up.
Spine Crawler built at the natural of Lucky.

Blue Flame upgrade on the way for Virus, Hellion production continuing.
Starport also added on.

Two more Spine Crawlers placed on the natural of Lucky.
Macro Hatchery started for Lucky. Baneling Nest placed down as well. Adding on more Spines.

Overlord from Lucky scouts everything in Virus' main.
Another Factory from Virus as Medivac production starts.

Roach Warren and Lair started for Lucky. 3 Extractors added on.
Siege Tank production started

Virus try to go for a drop, but it's spotted and Virus pulls back.
Hellions try to make it into the natural of Lucky, but the Spines keep him back.

Virus decides to clean up the creep tumors from Lucky.
Another CC, Engineering Bay and Armory added on for Virus. Siege Tech finishing up.

Another drop in the natural of Lucky goes down, nice drop micro kills a bunch of lings and some banes for only two Hellions.

15.00
+1 mech attack started for Virus. Thors in production.
Spire finishing up for Lucky, 8 Mutalisks in production.

Virus once again cleaning up the Creep Tumors of Lucky.
Lucky trying to go for a third Hatchery.

Drop from Virus is thwarted completely by Mutalisks.
+1 Air Carapace being researched for Lucky.

2 more Factories added on for Virus as +1 mech attack finishes up.
+1 Melee attack and Glial Reconstitution started for Lucky.

Third base is up for Virus.
Baneling Speed research started.

Hellions run into the third of Lucky, but are destroyed after killing a few Zerglings.
Infestation Pit about to finish up for Lucky.

+2 Mech Attack started for Virus.
Lucky takes a fourth in the bottom right.

@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
March 15 2012 11:48 GMT
#1080
cant wait for huk vs forgg
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
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