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On March 15 2012 10:40 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 10:34 Folstag wrote:
So confused how is polt ahead in supply. It's not like he macroed better because he was supply blocked for a good 30 seconds. Squirtle must have stopped producing probes or something. Its called teching, Squirtle played that entire called purely for the late game, relying on his control to allow him to make expand and then defense it the whole time. =D Really rough being forced to watch an observer other than ST_Legend though. >_< I actually have to pay attention and watch the mini-map quite closely at times.
Will ST Legend be the observer for IPL4? Or only for the GSTL finals?
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On March 15 2012 10:42 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 10:40 Hall0wed wrote:On March 15 2012 10:34 Folstag wrote:
So confused how is polt ahead in supply. It's not like he macroed better because he was supply blocked for a good 30 seconds. Squirtle must have stopped producing probes or something. Its called teching, Squirtle played that entire called purely for the late game, relying on his control to allow him to make expand and then defense it the whole time. =D Really rough being forced to watch an observer other than ST_Legend though. >_< I actually have to pay attention and watch the mini-map quite closely at times. Will ST Legend be the observer for IPL4? Or only for the GSTL finals?
At least a few IPL games, they said.
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On March 15 2012 10:43 Suichoy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 10:42 Bagration wrote:On March 15 2012 10:40 Hall0wed wrote:On March 15 2012 10:34 Folstag wrote:
So confused how is polt ahead in supply. It's not like he macroed better because he was supply blocked for a good 30 seconds. Squirtle must have stopped producing probes or something. Its called teching, Squirtle played that entire called purely for the late game, relying on his control to allow him to make expand and then defense it the whole time. =D Really rough being forced to watch an observer other than ST_Legend though. >_< I actually have to pay attention and watch the mini-map quite closely at times. Will ST Legend be the observer for IPL4? Or only for the GSTL finals? At least a few IPL games, they said.
That's great to hear. In my opinion, a skilled observer can almost be as important as a caster.
Over 9000 viewers!
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On March 15 2012 10:41 nokz88 wrote:
I'm getting more and more convinced that Terrans need to incorporate BFH lategame against Protoss... upgraded chargelots are close to imbalanced in this matchup.
The problem with hellions are you won't normally have upgrades for them. Also units are supposed to be cost efficient with an upgrade advantage.
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On March 15 2012 10:41 nokz88 wrote:
I'm getting more and more convinced that Terrans need to incorporate BFH lategame against Protoss... upgraded chargelots are close to imbalanced in this matchup.
Zealots are a problem but hellions are not the answer. At all. 2 supply, hundreds of gas in upgrades, and they don't sync with the rest of terran's late game army. Marines are more effective for their cost and supply. Trust me, there's a reason NO PRO EVER USES HELLIONS LATE GAME TVP, people need to stop suggesting this.
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On March 15 2012 10:42 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 10:40 Hall0wed wrote:On March 15 2012 10:34 Folstag wrote:
So confused how is polt ahead in supply. It's not like he macroed better because he was supply blocked for a good 30 seconds. Squirtle must have stopped producing probes or something. Its called teching, Squirtle played that entire called purely for the late game, relying on his control to allow him to make expand and then defense it the whole time. =D Really rough being forced to watch an observer other than ST_Legend though. >_< I actually have to pay attention and watch the mini-map quite closely at times. Will ST Legend be the observer for IPL4? Or only for the GSTL finals?
Yes as someone else has just said he will be observing atleast some of the games at IPL4.
I think every tournament should fly him out and pay him millions to observe, I love that guy.
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cool attempt there by squirtle but poorly executed
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United States23455 Posts
ezpz.
Get out, void ray all-in.
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There was no reason to cheese Squirtle... even though this map can be silly.
Still though usually Squirtle controls 100x better. >_<
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Very poor micro by Squirtle.
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Poor squirtle, that miscontrol instantly ended the game lol, shame for him to allin in that set, iirc he's pretty strong on Antiga PvT
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On March 15 2012 10:45 Badfatpanda wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 10:41 nokz88 wrote:
I'm getting more and more convinced that Terrans need to incorporate BFH lategame against Protoss... upgraded chargelots are close to imbalanced in this matchup. Zealots are a problem but hellions are not the answer. At all. 2 supply, hundreds of gas in upgrades, and they don't sync with the rest of terran's late game army. Marines are more effective for their cost and supply. Trust me, there's a reason NO PRO EVER USES HELLIONS LATE GAME TVP, people need to stop suggesting this.
No pro ever using something isn't an argument for anything really... ghosts for lategame TvZ was discovered by mvp midway last year. Mothership to counter zerg lategame deathball was discovered after the fungal buff... to stop innovating is admitting defeat.
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Polt is to strong for squirtle.
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On March 15 2012 11:01 dragonborn wrote:
Polt is to strong for squirtle.
Thunder-type then? 
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On March 15 2012 10:59 nokz88 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 10:45 Badfatpanda wrote:On March 15 2012 10:41 nokz88 wrote:
I'm getting more and more convinced that Terrans need to incorporate BFH lategame against Protoss... upgraded chargelots are close to imbalanced in this matchup. Zealots are a problem but hellions are not the answer. At all. 2 supply, hundreds of gas in upgrades, and they don't sync with the rest of terran's late game army. Marines are more effective for their cost and supply. Trust me, there's a reason NO PRO EVER USES HELLIONS LATE GAME TVP, people need to stop suggesting this. No pro ever using something isn't an argument for anything really... ghosts for lategame TvZ was discovered by mvp midway last year. Mothership to counter zerg lategame deathball was discovered after the fungal buff... to stop innovating is admitting defeat.
The real argument is that if you want to use hellions late game you have to upgrade them as well as your bio. Maybe not easy.
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On March 15 2012 11:02 Bagration wrote:Thunder-type then?
Polt is Blastoise
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On March 15 2012 10:59 nokz88 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2012 10:45 Badfatpanda wrote:On March 15 2012 10:41 nokz88 wrote:
I'm getting more and more convinced that Terrans need to incorporate BFH lategame against Protoss... upgraded chargelots are close to imbalanced in this matchup. Zealots are a problem but hellions are not the answer. At all. 2 supply, hundreds of gas in upgrades, and they don't sync with the rest of terran's late game army. Marines are more effective for their cost and supply. Trust me, there's a reason NO PRO EVER USES HELLIONS LATE GAME TVP, people need to stop suggesting this. No pro ever using something isn't an argument for anything really... ghosts for lategame TvZ was discovered by mvp midway last year. Mothership to counter zerg lategame deathball was discovered after the fungal buff... to stop innovating is admitting defeat.
But it's so fucking inefficient to buy 3/3 for vehicle armor and they don't even get healed, I'm all for innovating but people need to be realistic instead of suggesting hellions vs protoss in 50% of the plethora of tvp threads in the strat forum. It doesn't work and it never will work without a buff from blizz or the proposed hellion transformation in HotS.
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ggs.. ggs.. nice job everyone.
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