To be fair, there have been so few late game PvPs seen that the matchup is just underdeveloped and not mapped out for anyone. Switching into Stargate seems to be a strong contender, but until we see more and until it becomes worthwhile for pros to actually develop the late game of the matchup, I guess we will see a lot of disparate results.

Slangen

Sweden1166 Posts

March 13 2012 12:05 GMT

#827

Inc three way tie :D more games ftw!

KristofferAG

Norway25712 Posts

March 13 2012 12:05 GMT

#828

On March 13 2012 21:04 Fionn wrote:
Easy now.

Sniper Wins/Ganzi Wins: Sniper advances
Sniper Wins/Inca Wins: Inca advances
Leenock Wins/Inca Wins: Inca advances
Leenock Wins/Ganzi wins: Ganzi advances

Leenock finishes 1st in group.

Just realized that. I think GanZi can make it, tbh. Leenock should be able to take out Sniper, and I personally believe GanZi is better than InCa, but time will tell.

pdd

Australia9933 Posts

March 13 2012 12:06 GMT

#829

On March 13 2012 21:04 KristofferAG wrote:

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Basically long turtle games where who has the bigger Colossus count wins? I don't like it

If only the Mothership has been made.

Creator vs Squirtle in the GSTL this past weekend showed that more Colossi does not equal auto win.

Also I believe both Inca and Ace had equal supply of Colossi in that game.

sitromit

7051 Posts

March 13 2012 12:06 GMT

#830

So Sniper has to beat Leenock now, since Inca has the head-to-head, even if Ganzi wins, and they all end up 2-2..

Edit: That would be a 3 way tie then, wouldn't it?

Fragile51

Netherlands15767 Posts

March 13 2012 12:06 GMT

#831

On March 13 2012 21:03 Lysanias wrote:
Max PvP is bloody boring that's for sure, if it goes more then 1 base i guess only Colosi matter ?

It does, untill someone makes a mothership. Then the guy with a mothership has a massive advantage.

Lysanias

Netherlands8351 Posts

March 13 2012 12:06 GMT

#832

On March 13 2012 21:05 0ne wrote:

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I think removing colossus would make every protoss matchup way more interesting

Leave them in for PvT and PvZ but remove for PvP how would that sound

Zorgaz

Sweden2951 Posts

March 13 2012 12:06 GMT

#833

On March 13 2012 21:05 0ne wrote:

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I think removing colossus would make every protoss matchup way more interesting

Yes!

Doesn't seem like this will ever happen though.

Inflicted

Australia18228 Posts

March 13 2012 12:06 GMT

#834

On March 13 2012 21:04 Fionn wrote:
Easy now.

Sniper Wins/Ganzi Wins: Sniper advances
Sniper Wins/Inca Wins: Inca advances
Leenock Wins/Inca Wins: Inca advances
Leenock Wins/Ganzi wins: Tiebreak

Leenock finishes 1st in group.

There will be a tiebreak between Leenock/Sniper/InCa if that happens.

DarkPlasmaBall

United States45937 Posts

March 13 2012 12:06 GMT

#835

On March 13 2012 21:03 KristofferAG wrote:

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On March 13 2012 20:58 KristofferAG wrote:

On March 13 2012 20:55 KristofferAG wrote:

On March 13 2012 20:52 KristofferAG wrote:

On March 13 2012 20:48 KristofferAG wrote:

StarTale_AcE v oGsInCa

Bel'Shir Beach

5.00
(P)

StarTale_AcE spawning as the red protoss in the bottom left position.
(P)

oGsInCa spawning as the blue protoss in the top right position.

12gate and 13assimilator for both players.
Both players go Cybercore on gateway ended, AcE is a bit faster and is also going for a second gas.

Both players following up with a second gateway, builds are fairly mirrored and Warp gate tech is second behinds for InCa.

Both players skip zealot and go straight for Stalker.

2 Stalkers building for InCa while AcE goes for a Robotics Facility.

10.00
InCa adds on a third gateway and moves out with three stalkers.
One stalker is caught on the ramp witha force field and gets taken down.

Once again InCa pushes up, but one stalker is cut off by a force field is taken out.
Immortal now out for AcE.

Twilight Council added on for InCa.
AcE getting a Warp Prism.

InCa gets a Nexus and pulls back.
AcE gets a Robotic Bay.

InCa cleans up some pylons, and places down a Dark Shrine in the top of the map!
AcE picks up two immortals in the Warp Prism!

Immortals dropped into the main of InCa and takes out a pylon and a couple Probes before pulling back.
Blink finishes up for InCa as AcE's warp prism speed finishes up.

Colossus production started for AcE.

15.00
Dark Templar is in the natural of AcE, taking out multiple Probes.
The observer pops out and the first DT is taken out. Second DT runs off following a Probe.

Zealot Charge finishes up for InCa.
AcE spots the Dark Shrine, but isn't able to take it out as a DT is warped in.

InCa moves across the map while adding on a Robotics Facility.
Two Gateways added on for AcE. +1 attack started.

Yet another Gateway added on for AcE, walling off his natural.
InCa pulls back and gets a Robotics Bay and another Robotics Facility. AcE adds on a Robotics Facility.

20.00
AcE also getting Zealot Charge and starting +2 attack.
InCa gets a third while starting to make Colossus.

AcE moves into his own third to take it.
DT makes it into AcE's natural, but is only able to take out one Probe before dying.

Zealots dropped into InCa's main, taking out a couple of Probes before being pulled out.
Another DT going into AcE's natural, but it's taken out by a Cannon.

Templar Archives added on for AcE as he starts Immortal production.
+1 attack started for InCa as +3 attack starts for AcE.

AcE uses the Templar Archives to get Archons out while adding on 2 Gateways.
InCa getting +1 armor. Keeping up Colossus production.

AcE drops zealots once again, but cannons in the mineral line forces him to go for the Forges. A quick warpin from InCa stops the harass.

25.00
InCa adds on his own Templar Archives.
Zealots from AcE finally takes out the Dark Shrine in the top.

AcE drops again in the main of InCa and takes out a cannon before it's cleaned up.
AcE adds on a Stargate while starting +1 armor.

InCa starts 2/2 while taking a fourth in the middle of the map.
Fleet Beacon coming in for AcE.

AcE warps in Zealots in the third of InCa, pulling InCa out of position, huge engagement in the middle!
InCa has the better position and the colossus count, and demolishes AcE's army, Colossus pulling back home.

InCa follows AcE to the fourth, but is not able tot ake it out, InCa falls back.
AcE has the superior economy, but InCa pushes in once again with the huge Colossus count, and destroys what's left of AcE's army. GG is called.

The Winner is (P)

oGsInCa!

Thanks for the LRs

TheBB

Switzerland5133 Posts

March 13 2012 12:07 GMT

#836

Uh, if Sniper and Inca win, we have that tie.

opterown

Australia54784 Posts

March 13 2012 12:07 GMT

#837

On March 13 2012 21:04 Fionn wrote:
Sniper Wins/Inca Wins: Inca advances

Isn't this also a tiebreak?

MajorityofOne

Canada2506 Posts

March 13 2012 12:07 GMT

#838

? Isn't it a three-way tie if Inca and Sniper both win?

Fragile51

Netherlands15767 Posts

March 13 2012 12:07 GMT

#839

On March 13 2012 21:06 pdd wrote:

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Creator vs Squirtle in the GSTL this past weekend showed that more Colossi does not equal auto win.

Also I believe both Inca and Ace had equal supply of Colossi in that game.

Not in the last two engagements, was 4 colosi v 7. Also only 2 of aces colosi were fighting the army of inca while all of inca's colosi were fighting..

Saiwa

Germany789 Posts

March 13 2012 12:07 GMT

#840

Can Ganzi still advance ?