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Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
March 06 2012 03:52 GMT
#1001
HerO, such gaping flaws in your play. So sad, so sad, both for the player and the fan.
DR.Ham
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands621 Posts
March 06 2012 03:52 GMT
#1002
Team Liquid did really well and should be proud of their performance as the best foreigner team in the tournament, still a shame though.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
March 06 2012 03:52 GMT
#1003
On March 06 2012 12:52 Nightinyou wrote:
Not sure how DTs are "cheese" at that point. It's a pretty standard transition if you're way behind in PVP.

I'm more curious as to how Hero didn't see that coming a lot sooner when he completely smashed Oz's push and killed off all his forward pylons, then got FFed at Oz's ramp.

I would have thought he'd have gone for the Obs+Blink play anyways

Better luck next time.


Because he didn't crush anything. Oz's pressure did what it was supposed to do.
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GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
March 06 2012 03:53 GMT
#1004
On March 06 2012 12:52 Porcelina wrote:
HerO, such gaping flaws in your play. So sad, so sad, both for the player and the fan.


Gaping flaws? He just made the wrong decision.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
March 06 2012 03:53 GMT
#1005
So much overreaction over that game =/
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nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
March 06 2012 03:55 GMT
#1006
Kind of a sad result, but to be expected.
Glam
Profile Joined September 2010
United States325 Posts
March 06 2012 03:56 GMT
#1007
On March 06 2012 12:52 DR.Ham wrote:
Team Liquid did really well and should be proud of their performance as the best foreigner team in the tournament, still a shame though.



I really wish we didn't have to keep including the word "foreigner"

Wondering how long it will be until we finally catch up.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37117 Posts
March 06 2012 03:56 GMT
#1008
On March 06 2012 12:48 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 12:47 Seeker wrote:
So is TL our of IPL now?


Yes

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DrN0
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom184 Posts
March 06 2012 03:56 GMT
#1009
I feel like the decision to send out TLO wasn't a good one but it is all to easy to say that from the sidelines. Honestly though the game on shattered temple Oz's scouting was piss poor the standard roach all in would have finished the game handily, TLO tried to do something cute when the standard play is so much better.

Also the Ret game, again this is easy to say from the sidelines and ret is really a phenomenal player, one of the best, the mutas didnt focus the immortals and I think they would have done well to do so, seen as the follow up was pure roach. The final match everyone has said it before but you have to get a robo out in that situation, unless Hero's read of the situation was there was no eco to go dts on the side, he really should have anticipated it but thats what dts are and have always been, a unit that punishes a small miscalculation with a gg.

Still well played by team liquid throughout the tournament they will surely bounce back.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
March 06 2012 04:01 GMT
#1010
On March 06 2012 12:52 Porcelina wrote:
HerO, such gaping flaws in your play. So sad, so sad, both for the player and the fan.


No, just no.

Coinflip, he got the wrong end of the coin. Shit happens.
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Nightinyou
Profile Joined May 2011
United States59 Posts
March 06 2012 04:02 GMT
#1011
On March 06 2012 12:52 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 12:52 Nightinyou wrote:
Not sure how DTs are "cheese" at that point. It's a pretty standard transition if you're way behind in PVP.

I'm more curious as to how Hero didn't see that coming a lot sooner when he completely smashed Oz's push and killed off all his forward pylons, then got FFed at Oz's ramp.

I would have thought he'd have gone for the Obs+Blink play anyways

Better luck next time.


Because he didn't crush anything. Oz's pressure did what it was supposed to do.


He lost a small amount of workers & units/some mining time and killed off Oz's entire army + 2 pylons.

Perhaps not "crushing," but he definitely came out ahead on that one, especially considering how lop-sided supply was at that stage in the game.

Either way, DTs seemed like an obvious answer to Hero rejecting Oz's push, but I guess it's easier to say just watching a stream, versus actually playing.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
March 06 2012 04:03 GMT
#1012
On March 06 2012 13:02 Nightinyou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 12:52 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On March 06 2012 12:52 Nightinyou wrote:
Not sure how DTs are "cheese" at that point. It's a pretty standard transition if you're way behind in PVP.

I'm more curious as to how Hero didn't see that coming a lot sooner when he completely smashed Oz's push and killed off all his forward pylons, then got FFed at Oz's ramp.

I would have thought he'd have gone for the Obs+Blink play anyways

Better luck next time.


Because he didn't crush anything. Oz's pressure did what it was supposed to do.


He lost a small amount of workers & units/some mining time and killed off Oz's entire army + 2 pylons.

Perhaps not "crushing," but he definitely came out ahead on that one, especially considering how lop-sided supply was at that stage in the game.

Either way, DTs seemed like an obvious answer to Hero rejecting Oz's push, but I guess it's easier to say just watching a stream, versus actually playing.


That was the entire point. *facepalm*
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
March 06 2012 04:05 GMT
#1013
On March 06 2012 13:02 Nightinyou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 12:52 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On March 06 2012 12:52 Nightinyou wrote:
Not sure how DTs are "cheese" at that point. It's a pretty standard transition if you're way behind in PVP.

I'm more curious as to how Hero didn't see that coming a lot sooner when he completely smashed Oz's push and killed off all his forward pylons, then got FFed at Oz's ramp.

I would have thought he'd have gone for the Obs+Blink play anyways

Better luck next time.


Because he didn't crush anything. Oz's pressure did what it was supposed to do.


He lost a small amount of workers & units/some mining time and killed off Oz's entire army + 2 pylons.

Perhaps not "crushing," but he definitely came out ahead on that one, especially considering how lop-sided supply was at that stage in the game.

Either way, DTs seemed like an obvious answer to Hero rejecting Oz's push, but I guess it's easier to say just watching a stream, versus actually playing.

I'm not a protoss, but I'm pretty sure Hero wasn't ahead. All he killed were some zealots and pylons, but he'd lost some probes and cancelled his council, meaning his econ was probably a little worse and his tech was behind.
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zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
March 06 2012 04:07 GMT
#1014
On March 06 2012 13:01 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 12:52 Porcelina wrote:
HerO, such gaping flaws in your play. So sad, so sad, both for the player and the fan.


No, just no.

Coinflip, he got the wrong end of the coin. Shit happens.


Not really a coinflip at all.
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Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
March 06 2012 04:08 GMT
#1015
oz playing really well right now
Nightinyou
Profile Joined May 2011
United States59 Posts
March 06 2012 04:09 GMT
#1016
He was definitely ahead.

He may have been behind on tech/workers, but he had the supply lead, army lead, an expo coming, and his opponent pinned into his base.
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
March 06 2012 04:10 GMT
#1017
On March 06 2012 13:07 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 13:01 Hall0wed wrote:
On March 06 2012 12:52 Porcelina wrote:
HerO, such gaping flaws in your play. So sad, so sad, both for the player and the fan.


No, just no.

Coinflip, he got the wrong end of the coin. Shit happens.


Not really a coinflip at all.

Oz makes DT shrine without knowing if Hero had gone Robo or Twilight Shrine. If Hero had gone Robo, he has superior tech and an extra base whereas Oz has wasted money on a useless tech. If Hero had gone twilight, Oz wins.


Coinflip?
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 06 2012 04:11 GMT
#1018
On March 06 2012 13:10 McFeser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 13:07 zefreak wrote:
On March 06 2012 13:01 Hall0wed wrote:
On March 06 2012 12:52 Porcelina wrote:
HerO, such gaping flaws in your play. So sad, so sad, both for the player and the fan.


No, just no.

Coinflip, he got the wrong end of the coin. Shit happens.


Not really a coinflip at all.

Oz makes DT shrine without knowing if Hero had gone Robo or Twilight Shrine. If Hero had gone Robo, he has superior tech and an extra base whereas Oz has wasted money on a useless tech. If Hero had gone twilight, Oz wins.


Coinflip?



Oz was in Hero's base and got a full scout off man.
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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
March 06 2012 04:14 GMT
#1019
On March 06 2012 13:11 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 13:10 McFeser wrote:
On March 06 2012 13:07 zefreak wrote:
On March 06 2012 13:01 Hall0wed wrote:
On March 06 2012 12:52 Porcelina wrote:
HerO, such gaping flaws in your play. So sad, so sad, both for the player and the fan.


No, just no.

Coinflip, he got the wrong end of the coin. Shit happens.


Not really a coinflip at all.

Oz makes DT shrine without knowing if Hero had gone Robo or Twilight Shrine. If Hero had gone Robo, he has superior tech and an extra base whereas Oz has wasted money on a useless tech. If Hero had gone twilight, Oz wins.


Coinflip?



Oz was in Hero's base and got a full scout off man.


It was a good mind-game play in reaction to what he saw from the opening of HerO. Fast 2-G stalkers is usually followed up by Twilight + Blink, but I've seen more often than not, Blink + Robo 1 base play becoming a "somewhat standard" so it was odd HerO didn't do it. I guess I'd chalk it up to mind-games, Oz was way behind took a gamble, and it paid off.

Still sad as fuck that Liquid is out. gg wp guys... was a great run.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
March 06 2012 04:17 GMT
#1020
Heartbreaking. tt.
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