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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
March 06 2012 10:14 GMT
#861
On March 06 2012 19:13 Mouzone wrote:
Which stream is Grubby on? Schedule says 11.30 but I suppose not. So annoying that you have to follow the tournament 24/7 to be able to know when and where people play.


Just watched game 1 of Hasu vs Grubby on http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/ESL.tv Event 2
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ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
March 06 2012 10:14 GMT
#862
On March 06 2012 19:12 SupLilSon wrote:
Where are people watching MC vs WhiteRa?


I watch here in Russian.
http://goodgame.ru/events.php?ocd=view&id=5019
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zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
March 06 2012 10:14 GMT
#863
On March 06 2012 19:13 Mouzone wrote:
Which stream is Grubby on? Schedule says 11.30 but I suppose not. So annoying that you have to follow the tournament 24/7 to be able to know when and where people play.

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/ESL.tv Event 2 here u go
keep it deep! @zulison
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 06 2012 10:14 GMT
#864
On March 06 2012 19:14 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 19:13 StarVe wrote:
On March 06 2012 19:10 Seraphone wrote:
On March 06 2012 19:08 Reedy wrote:
On March 06 2012 19:07 Seraphone wrote:
On March 06 2012 19:06 Welmu wrote:
WhiteRa should be given win =/


No chance.


? Can understand if your thinking is that White-Ra would say no to the offer but apart from that he was miles ahead.


On March 06 2012 19:08 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
On March 06 2012 19:07 Seraphone wrote:
On March 06 2012 19:06 Welmu wrote:
WhiteRa should be given win =/


No chance.

Whitera way to manner to even accept that.


He was ahead and would likely have won, but no engagement had even occurred.

Some people seem unfamiliar with the rules, this isn't Boxing, you aren't awarded the win for being ahead.

You're awarded the win for being in an unlosable situation. There's no way in a mothership vs mothership when neither player had even engaged, MC was pumping double collosus and they were on equal basis that White Ra was in an unlosable situation.

It 100% has to be a regame.


MC was like three minutes away from a mothership while White-Ra's was about to spawn, he had the upgrade lead, the tech lead, a big supply lead - he could have thrown it away, yes, but it was highly unlikely.


It's still not an unlosable situation and MC's mothership was out.

That was WR's mothership. MC's was a while from coming into play
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Reedy
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom185 Posts
March 06 2012 10:14 GMT
#865
On March 06 2012 19:14 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 19:13 StarVe wrote:
On March 06 2012 19:10 Seraphone wrote:
On March 06 2012 19:08 Reedy wrote:
On March 06 2012 19:07 Seraphone wrote:
On March 06 2012 19:06 Welmu wrote:
WhiteRa should be given win =/


No chance.


? Can understand if your thinking is that White-Ra would say no to the offer but apart from that he was miles ahead.


On March 06 2012 19:08 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
On March 06 2012 19:07 Seraphone wrote:
On March 06 2012 19:06 Welmu wrote:
WhiteRa should be given win =/


No chance.

Whitera way to manner to even accept that.


He was ahead and would likely have won, but no engagement had even occurred.

Some people seem unfamiliar with the rules, this isn't Boxing, you aren't awarded the win for being ahead.

You're awarded the win for being in an unlosable situation. There's no way in a mothership vs mothership when neither player had even engaged, MC was pumping double collosus and they were on equal basis that White Ra was in an unlosable situation.

It 100% has to be a regame.


MC was like three minutes away from a mothership while White-Ra's was about to spawn, he had the upgrade lead, the tech lead, a big supply lead - he could have thrown it away, yes, but it was highly unlikely.


It's still not an unlosable situation and MC's mothership was out.


No it wasn't.....his fleet beacon had only just finished.

theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
March 06 2012 10:14 GMT
#866
Maybe MC would probe rush Whitera to give him the next game

:D
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
alone
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland410 Posts
March 06 2012 10:14 GMT
#867
On March 06 2012 19:13 Heavenly wrote:
Definitely not a clear win..MC most likely had a good bit more colossi, WhiteRa's mothership was no where near the battle when he appeared to be going ahead anyway, defender has the advantage in positioning and warping in, etc. Just saw a PvP in the Master's Cup where someone with better upgrades and more colossi and a third got completely stomped because he clumped his colossi, may have been Crank v Hasuobs.


White ra had 3 or 4 colo and lance when mc's support bay was finishing.
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
March 06 2012 10:15 GMT
#868
On March 06 2012 19:12 Benjamin80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 19:11 RJGooner wrote:
On March 06 2012 19:10 Reedy wrote:
On March 06 2012 19:09 EleanorRIgby wrote:
he didn't have a big enough lead, re game for sure


.......

How is a 25 supply lead and +3 vs +1 attack not a big enough lead? Oh and he was a base ahead.....


25 supply lead and an upgrade advantage is not a guaranteed win, especially in PvP. If it was like a 60 supply lead then maybe.


Upgrades you know how much of a difference +3 do compared to + 1?


Means nothing if you don't micro properly.

Watch Hasu vs Huk in NASL S2 where Hasu has ever advantage going and Huk just micros better and stomps him in the ball vs ball battle.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 06 2012 10:15 GMT
#869
On March 06 2012 19:14 alone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 19:13 Heavenly wrote:
Definitely not a clear win..MC most likely had a good bit more colossi, WhiteRa's mothership was no where near the battle when he appeared to be going ahead anyway, defender has the advantage in positioning and warping in, etc. Just saw a PvP in the Master's Cup where someone with better upgrades and more colossi and a third got completely stomped because he clumped his colossi, may have been Crank v Hasuobs.


White ra had 3 or 4 colo and lance when mc's support bay was finishing.

MC closed the number because he had 2 robos while whitera had 1
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Spitmode
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1510 Posts
March 06 2012 10:15 GMT
#870
On March 06 2012 19:13 r4pture wrote:
Got a commercial right in the peak of Hasuobs attacking, come back and its over. Nice.


adblock ftw
"Make house -> Robots come out of house -> Robots shoot lazers -> Someone wins"
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
March 06 2012 10:15 GMT
#871
god I am glad I went to cook some pasta and not tear my hair out cuz of the Disc... what has now decided between MC/WhiteRa? Does he get the win or regame?
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
March 06 2012 10:15 GMT
#872
I dont believe Elfi got any sentries left after he got his army off this choke
Fall down 9 times, Get up 10.
RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2076 Posts
March 06 2012 10:15 GMT
#873
On March 06 2012 19:12 Benjamin80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 19:11 RJGooner wrote:
On March 06 2012 19:10 Reedy wrote:
On March 06 2012 19:09 EleanorRIgby wrote:
he didn't have a big enough lead, re game for sure


.......

How is a 25 supply lead and +3 vs +1 attack not a big enough lead? Oh and he was a base ahead.....


25 supply lead and an upgrade advantage is not a guaranteed win, especially in PvP. If it was like a 60 supply lead then maybe.


Upgrades you know how much of a difference +3 do compared to + 1?


How many times have we seen an engagement in PvP where the player who has higher supply or what looks like the better army loses because of bad positioning?

Just face facts, the game wasn't over and done with.
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Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
March 06 2012 10:15 GMT
#874
Yep, several SC2 matchs & CS1.6 and LoL and all HD and for free...♥
Siune
Profile Joined July 2011
Finland124 Posts
March 06 2012 10:16 GMT
#875
Go go Nerchio! Still Hwaiting!
Until the very top it's about how much work you put into it.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 06 2012 10:16 GMT
#876
Nerchio takes it 2-1 over Elfi
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Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
March 06 2012 10:16 GMT
#877
On March 06 2012 19:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 19:14 Seraphone wrote:
On March 06 2012 19:13 StarVe wrote:
On March 06 2012 19:10 Seraphone wrote:
On March 06 2012 19:08 Reedy wrote:
On March 06 2012 19:07 Seraphone wrote:
On March 06 2012 19:06 Welmu wrote:
WhiteRa should be given win =/


No chance.


? Can understand if your thinking is that White-Ra would say no to the offer but apart from that he was miles ahead.


On March 06 2012 19:08 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
On March 06 2012 19:07 Seraphone wrote:
On March 06 2012 19:06 Welmu wrote:
WhiteRa should be given win =/


No chance.

Whitera way to manner to even accept that.


He was ahead and would likely have won, but no engagement had even occurred.

Some people seem unfamiliar with the rules, this isn't Boxing, you aren't awarded the win for being ahead.

You're awarded the win for being in an unlosable situation. There's no way in a mothership vs mothership when neither player had even engaged, MC was pumping double collosus and they were on equal basis that White Ra was in an unlosable situation.

It 100% has to be a regame.


MC was like three minutes away from a mothership while White-Ra's was about to spawn, he had the upgrade lead, the tech lead, a big supply lead - he could have thrown it away, yes, but it was highly unlikely.


It's still not an unlosable situation and MC's mothership was out.

That was WR's mothership. MC's was a while from coming into play


Regardless White Ra's mothership was not even with his army. He was probably going to use recall rather than vortex.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
alone
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland410 Posts
March 06 2012 10:16 GMT
#878
On March 06 2012 19:15 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 19:14 alone wrote:
On March 06 2012 19:13 Heavenly wrote:
Definitely not a clear win..MC most likely had a good bit more colossi, WhiteRa's mothership was no where near the battle when he appeared to be going ahead anyway, defender has the advantage in positioning and warping in, etc. Just saw a PvP in the Master's Cup where someone with better upgrades and more colossi and a third got completely stomped because he clumped his colossi, may have been Crank v Hasuobs.


White ra had 3 or 4 colo and lance when mc's support bay was finishing.

MC closed the number because he had 2 robos while whitera had 1


Oh, k ;o

Liquipedia showing 2:1 for white ra...;o
Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
March 06 2012 10:16 GMT
#879
Awesome play by Nerchio
Fall down 9 times, Get up 10.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 06 2012 10:16 GMT
#880
Nerchio takes the series!
So we might not just have protoss moving out of group B.
Well played.
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