• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:58
CEST 02:58
KST 09:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent9Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues21LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments2Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?39Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris75
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast What happened to Singapore/Brazil servers?
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast
Brood War
General
The Korean Terminology Thread [ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent FlaSh on ACS Winners being in ASL ASL20 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group B [ASL20] Ro16 Group A Is there English video for group selection for ASL BWCL Season 63 Announcement
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
Nomor CS NeoBank 0822'606969 The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Collective Intelligence: Tea…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1036 users

[IPL] TAC2: oGs vs Prime Winners Final (Day 25) - Page 5

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Next All
NateTron
Profile Joined November 2011
United States31 Posts
March 03 2012 02:16 GMT
#81
that game made me worry about t v p balance
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
March 03 2012 02:19 GMT
#82
haha catz i totally agree :/
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 03 2012 02:23 GMT
#83
On March 03 2012 11:16 NateTron wrote:
that game made me worry about t v p balance


Can't let Protoss create a deathball, the same way you can't let Zerg mass expand all over the map.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
March 03 2012 02:27 GMT
#84
That was a pretty uninspired rush from Terius... not quite all-in enough to win, not economic enough to recover.
LiquidDota Staff
TL+ Member
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 03 2012 02:28 GMT
#85
YEAHH MKP <3 gogo
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
NateTron
Profile Joined November 2011
United States31 Posts
March 03 2012 02:31 GMT
#86
On March 03 2012 11:23 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 11:16 NateTron wrote:
that game made me worry about t v p balance


Can't let Protoss create a deathball, the same way you can't let Zerg mass expand all over the map.


yea, but he went more more macro oriented than anyone i've ever seen and still couldn't go into the late game stronger b/c Vines got to death ball. More and more pvt's i see are just protoss going heavy macro to get to late game so they can have a big battle and then replenish faster and roll them.

If you can't beat this by being THAT greedy economically, i guess that shows why all terran does is 1 1 1 or other early/mid attack
Mr. Daisy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States17 Posts
March 03 2012 02:31 GMT
#87
MKP! I don't see many players left that could take out mkp, maybe vines, maybe top, and supernova. If MKP wins, the best OGS players are all terran, and prime still has Creator's PvT.
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
March 03 2012 02:33 GMT
#88
Oh man I'm so excited to watch MKP's TvP. He is a TvP beast these days, although I guess really he's just a beast in general o.o
LiquidDota Staff
TL+ Member
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 03 2012 02:34 GMT
#89
Going to be hard for oGs, most of their big names are down, and MKP / Creator are still to be killed.
Supernova might be able to kill MKP, but then Creator PvT can clean the rest of oGs line up.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 03 2012 02:39 GMT
#90
On March 03 2012 11:31 NateTron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2012 11:23 Bagration wrote:
On March 03 2012 11:16 NateTron wrote:
that game made me worry about t v p balance


Can't let Protoss create a deathball, the same way you can't let Zerg mass expand all over the map.


yea, but he went more more macro oriented than anyone i've ever seen and still couldn't go into the late game stronger b/c Vines got to death ball. More and more pvt's i see are just protoss going heavy macro to get to late game so they can have a big battle and then replenish faster and roll them.

If you can't beat this by being THAT greedy economically, i guess that shows why all terran does is 1 1 1 or other early/mid attack


I did not pay very close attention to that game, as I was multitasking between various other tasks, but it seemed like that Maru was extremely greedy, and neglected upgrades and tech a bit. His early OC was forced to lift off rather than allow to mine, so he basically spent 550 minerals early to float an OC back to his base. But I am not a pro, so I don't have expert analysis, but that was my general impression.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
March 03 2012 02:40 GMT
#91
Vines was totally baiting MKP to pick up and leave so that he could land that blink. Very cool. Overall I'm not sure that engagement was bad for MKP though.
LiquidDota Staff
TL+ Member
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 02:45:47
March 03 2012 02:43 GMT
#92
ghosts. missed you guys.

Edit: and now I know why you left
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 03 2012 02:46 GMT
#93
Wow, Vines is quite the Teamleague player, doing well here and in the GSTL.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
March 03 2012 02:47 GMT
#94
On March 03 2012 11:34 Noocta wrote:
Going to be hard for oGs, most of their big names are down, and MKP / Creator are still to be killed.
Supernova might be able to kill MKP, but then Creator PvT can clean the rest of oGs line up.



No. They have Inca.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
March 03 2012 02:47 GMT
#95
MKP messed up when he tried to get aggressive without vikings when there were already three colossi out.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 02:49:28
March 03 2012 02:48 GMT
#96
On March 03 2012 11:47 tomatriedes wrote:
MKP messed up when he tried to get aggressive without vikings when there were already three colossi out.


Yup mkp messed up when going for third base. He should have went home but chose to fight and lost his whole army. It's pretty standard seeing mkp lose a TvP due to col and lack of vikings though.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
NateTron
Profile Joined November 2011
United States31 Posts
March 03 2012 02:49 GMT
#97
Prime didn't want to use Creator vs P if they didn't have to...but now they have to haha
act.hero
Profile Joined April 2011
United States205 Posts
March 03 2012 02:49 GMT
#98
oGsVines aka oGsMC^2 lets goooooo
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 03:00:06
March 03 2012 02:57 GMT
#99
Looks like creator should have this ezpz

edit: unless these DTs ruin his day D:
LiquidDota Staff
TL+ Member
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
March 03 2012 03:00 GMT
#100
Vines so good
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Monday
00:00
#48
SteadfastSC160
davetesta80
rockletztv 15
EnkiAlexander 10
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 160
Nina 106
RuFF_SC2 63
CosmosSc2 58
ProTech56
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 941
sSak 36
yabsab 35
NaDa 27
Dota 2
monkeys_forever809
League of Legends
Cuddl3bear2
Counter-Strike
fl0m1478
Fnx 1005
taco 92
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox285
Other Games
summit1g7608
tarik_tv3857
Day[9].tv983
C9.Mang0477
Maynarde105
ViBE64
fpsfer 2
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1957
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Psz 5
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• Ler42
Other Games
• Scarra1022
• Day9tv983
Upcoming Events
Kung Fu Cup
11h 2m
ByuN vs HeRoMaRinE
MaxPax vs Creator
TBD vs Classic
OSC
15h 2m
Moja vs Babymarine
Solar vs TBD
sOs vs goblin
Nice vs INexorable
sebesdes vs Iba
Nicoract vs TBD
NightMare vs TBD
OSC
23h 2m
ReBellioN vs PAPI
Spirit vs TBD
Percival vs TBD
TriGGeR vs TBD
Shameless vs UedSoldier
Cham vs TBD
Harstem vs TBD
RSL Revival
1d 9h
Cure vs SHIN
Reynor vs Zoun
Kung Fu Cup
1d 11h
The PondCast
1d 12h
RSL Revival
2 days
Classic vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Maru
Online Event
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
[ Show More ]
BSL Team Wars
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
ShoWTimE vs Classic
Clem vs herO
Serral vs Bunny
Reynor vs Zoun
Cosmonarchy
3 days
Bonyth vs Dewalt
[BSL 2025] Weekly
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Snow vs Sharp
Jaedong vs Mini
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Light vs Speed
Larva vs Soma
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Copa Latinoamericana 4
SEL Season 2 Championship
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
EC S1
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.