EPT[IPL] TAC2: Liquid vs TSL LR3 (Day 23) - Page 23
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GreyArrow
United States157 Posts
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Yamulo
United States2096 Posts
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Derity
Germany2952 Posts
congratz! | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On March 01 2012 14:36 Falconblade wrote: Lying where? And Alive showed that he was damn good. Sick MMA or not. Hero's TvP is touch and go. And Bling did beat Polt 2-0 in the group stages, Polt played Hero who has have low rates against T. I thought he played JYP (the other protoss I meant to point out but I was wrong there, its been a ton of games and I mixed up who played Taeja and who played JYP since I missed that round of games). But accusing me of lying in regards to Bling, is unfounded? I take rather offense to that allegation that I am lying. Check the stats, Bling has a 2-0 record against Polt overall, having only played him once. This was meant to highlight the previous bloke's love of comparing people on the matchup between them as opposed to overall skill. The only thing I claimed was that Bling beat Polt, and that is true is it not? Supernova may have been disappointing at IEM but still got 2nd despite it, but why should you justify fortunate or not? Shit happens, and end of the day, Supernova beat him. Polt's road was Phoenix, TLO, Bling, Taeja, Hero, Lucky, and Stephano. There are only two protosses there, Hero and Bling. Bling is known as one of the better PvT players in Europe and his PvT record is above 60% (he did beat Polt, but that was not what I was accusing you about). Hero's KR PvT record since July 2011 in 7-4; I don't know why you bother to include his losses from a year ago to measure the state of his PvT now. Everyone knows JYP is crap at PvT. He lost to Diestar for God's sake. It means that Alive played well enough to beat a sick MMA, not necessarily that Alive played brilliantly. He played more aggressive than what we are used to seeing from him, but it's nonsense to say he is a top-level Terran because he advanced to RoX in a single tournament. You want to use his other recent results and how those played out to make a qualitative statement. Supernova's gameplay at IEM was far below his usual standard, but he managed to get 2nd because the field at San Paulo was exceptionally weak. So the placing does not reflect his skill at the event at all. If you only saw Supernova play at IEM you would think he was much worse than the games he showed in the Ro32. Shit happens like a fakeout based on intimate knowledge of MC's thought processes. It certainly showed when Supernova got absolutely smoked in the Ro16 by protosses he didn't know. The Ro16 showed that Supernova's TvP was dependent on early mindgames and crumbled when it was forced into a macro game. | ||
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Derity
Germany2952 Posts
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Results only get you so far, use your eyes whenever you can and make judgements like that. Both are world class players. | ||
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GoSuChicken
Germany1726 Posts
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michielbrands
Netherlands1146 Posts
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Igaryu85
Germany195 Posts
On March 01 2012 01:48 ydeer1993 wrote: 5-2 for TSL, Sorry but dont think TL will take this, but feel free to name and shame me if they do :D Named and shamed ;-) | ||
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
Liquid ` Fighting! | ||
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chambertin
United States1704 Posts
On March 01 2012 15:26 tree.hugger wrote: This is a silly and long argument. Both HerO and Polt are elite players. Both top ten of their races. For my money, Polt is outside the top five terrans and HerO is in the top five protosses, but given how much deeper T is than P, Polt may still be better. He's certainly still a better performer under pressure. Results only get you so far, use your eyes whenever you can and make judgements like that. Both are world class players. Layin' down the truth... | ||
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Farone
Netherlands1219 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On March 01 2012 15:26 tree.hugger wrote: This is a silly and long argument. Both HerO and Polt are elite players. Both top ten of their races. For my money, Polt is outside the top five terrans and HerO is in the top five protosses, but given how much deeper T is than P, Polt may still be better. He's certainly still a better performer under pressure. Results only get you so far, use your eyes whenever you can and make judgements like that. Both are world class players. Good post. For a while I thought Polt was falling off after his big win, but he's looking really scary again lately. Unclear if Polt is top 5 terran, but as you say its only because the terran line is so insanely deep now. I do think Polt MIGHT have a stylistic weakness where he struggles a little vs the absolute, absolute top tier but I dont really have anything to back that up, it's just an impression I get from how he plays. | ||
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Farone
Netherlands1219 Posts
 and ye, statistics means nothing, both are great players, whoever has the the better day wins | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4753 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On March 01 2012 16:15 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Good post. For a while I thought Polt was falling off after his big win, but he's looking really scary again lately. Unclear if Polt is top 5 terran, but as you say its only because the terran line is so insanely deep now. I do think Polt MIGHT have a stylistic weakness where he struggles a little vs the absolute, absolute top tier but I dont really have anything to back that up, it's just an impression I get from how he plays. I called you out to be the one to beat Polt but HerO didn't give you the chance T_T | ||
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LeLfe
France3160 Posts
On March 01 2012 16:45 Farone wrote: nice avatar I got today I just noticed and ye, statistics means nothing, both are great players, whoever has the the better day wins happy bday! ^^ Congratz TL! pretty sexy results lately, keep it up | ||
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JustPassingBy
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