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Apparently some people are dumb enough to STILL be asking for it, so let's make things clear:

Do NOT ask for re-streams, and do NOT post re-streams.

Do not come here and muddle the thread by bitching about PPV.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 21:26:12
February 26 2012 21:25 GMT
#1581
that phoenix upgrade has really changed how mutas in pvz are battled. base trades just aren't effective anymore. i do agree with artosis that the this weekend has really showed the upgrade is too strong-_- nony was definitely proven wrong.

jkjk.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 26 2012 21:25 GMT
#1582
Mutas make for great games. Love base trades....
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10095 Posts
February 26 2012 21:25 GMT
#1583
=/ so hard to defend vs muta transitions and muta openers if u open with robo + collo into a 3rd
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
February 26 2012 21:25 GMT
#1584
On February 27 2012 06:24 freetgy wrote:
man 1.4.3. changed so much ..................


we can see how the phoenix buff is really effective.
I've got moves like Jagger
Spaceneil8
Profile Joined February 2011
United States317 Posts
February 26 2012 21:25 GMT
#1585
On February 27 2012 06:22 Tigerlily wrote:
MLG is seriously the worst piece of shit ever


Never ever have I seen the MLG stream work for more than an hour without lagging, even now when they ask for money they can't get a decent stream working

It is twitchtv. Twitch is known to have problems with europe.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
February 26 2012 21:25 GMT
#1586
On February 27 2012 06:24 mvtaylor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 06:23 Drazerk wrote:
On February 27 2012 05:51 Drazerk wrote:
On February 27 2012 05:50 Drazerk wrote:
Game Two on Daybreak

In the botto mleft is DRG

In the top right is Oz

2:10


Pool first for DRG

Pylon block then a forge for Oz

3:00


Cannon first for Oz

5:00


Natural and third on the way for DRG

Oz getting his natural and his core

6:10


Warp tech and melee +1 for Oz

DRG just droning and taking his gas

8:00


Overlord scouts the main but doesn't see anything before dying.

After the overlord dies Three gateways starts along with his robo finishing and starting a warp prism.

Lair and ling speed for DRG along with an evo chamber

9:10


Robo bay and an immortal for Oz while a ling scouts the warp prism allowing DRG to counter it perfectly

11:00


Thermal lance and more gateways for Oz

The drop goes into the natural and kills a queen and a few drones before picking back up

Spire on the way for DRG


12:00


Oz lagging out T_T

00:00


Game restarts

Same positions

3:00

Forge then nexus for Oz with the pylon block

DRG goes 6 zerglings

4:20

Both players basically doing the same as they originally did but with the +1 a bit earlier

7:10


Robo for Oz again

8:20


Roach warren - evo chamber - lair and ling speed for DRG

Robo bay - armour +1 and multiple gates for Oz


9:30


Warp prism goes for the natural this time rather than the main first


10:30


Thermal lance and colossus for Oz

Warp prism does a lot of damage

Third for Oz on the way

Spire for DRG starts

13:30

Blink and +2 for Oz with more gateway

Huge attack from DRG with a muta roach ball


16:30


Natural of Oz falls to the attack but he holds it off and now counter attacks the main of DRG

Base trade scenario


18:10


Oz being revealed

DRG has a base building in thebottom right


19:30


A pylon being built

DRG being really careful


FTFY


A pylon in the main

A pylon in the third

That is all over the map is it not?
ThomasR
Profile Joined January 2012
764 Posts
February 26 2012 21:26 GMT
#1587
What took DRG so long to realize that he has to base trade.....I can't believe he even flew his mutas and brought his lings out of Oz's base before going back
InternalSync
Profile Joined December 2011
176 Posts
February 26 2012 21:26 GMT
#1588
Build Nexus and win? .... really strange
JackDT
Profile Joined January 2012
724 Posts
February 26 2012 21:26 GMT
#1589
On February 27 2012 06:19 goto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 06:17 JackDT wrote:
On February 27 2012 06:08 goto wrote:
Slightly OT... but is there a RTS that has some "realistic" qualities? As in, floating buildings could land on Zerglings or deliberately set to crash on armies. Or buildings and terrain that hinder the shooting path. I always thought it's retarded that a 4 marines inside a bunker could shoot at an army even though there was a Barracks between the bunker and the attacking army.


Tons. Company of Heroes, Men of War (very cool physics!) are two of my favorites.

In a lot of ways Starcraft 2 seems like Blizzard never played another modern RTS in the last 10 years. It's great but very retro. Line of sight considerations are just one cool things they could add. I always wish units had orientation so that facing mattered (turrets took time to swivel around, etc). Also, everything is either a binary 'in range or not' rather than being a more interesting dynamic.


I actually bought Company Of Heroes at a sale but it crashed all the time on my PC. Last great RTS I played was Rise Of Nations. It didn't have any advanced physics but was interesting as it incorporated elements from turn based strategy games such as Civilization.


Rise of Nations did reall cool things economically: national borders, supply lines and attrition, etc.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
February 26 2012 21:26 GMT
#1590
Welp, it seems I have to bump it down a notch. Now at 360 p

T_T
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Hamdemon
Profile Joined September 2011
United States348 Posts
February 26 2012 21:26 GMT
#1591
On February 27 2012 06:25 Spaceneil8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 06:22 Tigerlily wrote:
MLG is seriously the worst piece of shit ever


Never ever have I seen the MLG stream work for more than an hour without lagging, even now when they ask for money they can't get a decent stream working

It is twitchtv. Twitch is known to have problems with europe.


I'm on the west coast in the US having issues with lag too.
"All warfare is based on deception." - Sun Tzu
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
February 26 2012 21:26 GMT
#1592
On February 27 2012 06:25 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 06:24 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On February 27 2012 06:22 Tigerlily wrote:
MLG is seriously the worst piece of shit ever


Never ever have I seen the MLG stream work for more than an hour without lagging, even now when they ask for money they can't get a decent stream working

no problems here ever

Its Twitch.tv standard issues with europe. Quite a decent ammount of people have it atm

then raging on mlg doesnt make much sense to me
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
February 26 2012 21:26 GMT
#1593
On February 27 2012 06:25 ssg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 06:24 windsupernova wrote:
I don't think Oz noticed he had a probe left

He did because he did build one pylon. Should have built about 5 and turtled them.

why?
DRG had a base and 20 odd drones you cant just sit with your oponent mining
SarkON
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation117 Posts
February 26 2012 21:26 GMT
#1594
On February 27 2012 06:25 LittLeD wrote:
Shouldn't have to be told but Grubby is pretty much a God reincornated in human form, who decided to become a progamer.

His casting is SPOT ON.


The part about "god" is a slight overstatement. Other than that i totally agree
Who Dares Wins...
mtvacuum
Profile Joined January 2010
United States979 Posts
February 26 2012 21:26 GMT
#1595
what is up with revealing buildings? Base trades are so much more exciting without it.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 21:27:27
February 26 2012 21:26 GMT
#1596
Please stop complaining about the base trade. Oz could have easily won that if he just did what Genius does and made like 10 extra cannons at his third.

Edit: He even had a ton of time to do it since DRG was being really indecisive.
kvn4444
Profile Joined September 2010
1510 Posts
February 26 2012 21:26 GMT
#1597
not suprising strat by drg, given how much he hates ff's. think all his vs P's i've seen him do this muta style base trading. didn't work against genius though because he got phoenixes along with cannons.
HowardRoark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
1146 Posts
February 26 2012 21:26 GMT
#1598
Oz actually threw away the game. WTH?
"It is really good to get the double observatory if you want to get the speed and sight range for the observer simultaneously. It's a little bit of an advanced tactic, and by advanced, I mean really fucking bad."
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
February 26 2012 21:26 GMT
#1599
On February 27 2012 06:26 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2012 06:25 ragnorr wrote:
On February 27 2012 06:24 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On February 27 2012 06:22 Tigerlily wrote:
MLG is seriously the worst piece of shit ever


Never ever have I seen the MLG stream work for more than an hour without lagging, even now when they ask for money they can't get a decent stream working

no problems here ever

Its Twitch.tv standard issues with europe. Quite a decent ammount of people have it atm

then raging on mlg doesnt make much sense to me

It does. They partnered with twitch. Could have partnered with own3d for example
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
February 26 2012 21:27 GMT
#1600
Had one pylon, but moved his whole army away from it AND didn't build a Nexus. Wth was Oz doing there?
Long live the King of Wings
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