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Apparently some people are dumb enough to STILL be asking for it, so let's make things clear:

Do NOT ask for re-streams, and do NOT post re-streams.

Do not come here and muddle the thread by bitching about PPV.
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
February 26 2012 01:54 GMT
#3581
On February 26 2012 10:51 bLooD. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 10:48 ComplexConf wrote:
One thing I don't understand is that Nani don't see this coming? And how the hell does he have 4 probes chasing one drone? with 600 minerals and not putting up a cannon or a nexus... What.. the.. BLEEP!!!

Not true..... Artosis was wrong it was leenock that was floating around 600-700 mins
Nani had barely enugh cause he pulled probes so early.

yeah that was frustrating he said it like 3 times and naniwa was poor as fuck that whole time.
a big mistake nani made was when the first hatch cancel came up I think he looked away (probably putting up that pylon in zerg natural) and didnt have probes chasing the drone.
if he a moved the drone then leenock wouldn't have put up another building.
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
February 26 2012 01:54 GMT
#3582
On February 26 2012 10:50 KroN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 10:47 Musicus wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:42 Hakanfrog wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:39 nihlon wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:38 KroN wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:34 magnaflow wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:32 MattyClutch wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:30 magnaflow wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:26 MattyClutch wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:26 magnaflow wrote:
[quote]


I am getting my money back, I don't give a fuck what they say. I want a refund or a free gold membership. This is pathetic. I pay to help support, and people are still able to watch for free, I am fucking pissed. Paid for my pass over a week ago.


I don't get this... You got exactly what you payed for and you are somehow mad at MLG? Wut?



Other people are getting exactly what I paid for without having to pay. Fucking rights i'm mad at MLG.


And people steal cars. You don't go to the car dealership and go "HEY someone stole a car, I want my money back! It is BS that someone got a car for free, I payed for mine! I mean mine didn't get stolen, it is here exactly what I payed for. But someone somewhere got a free car! RAGE!!!!"

I just don't see why you want to demand money back from MLG when they gave you exactly what you payed for.



Because they are giving you the exact same thing without having to pay for it. I have every right to be pissed off.


I think you missunderstand... they are not giving it away, people are taking it.

When all you have to do is open the stream, they are giving it away...


Agreed, I just opened the stream thinking I would get an hour or so free, when ti then continued to be free the rest of the night I simply held it open, because why not?


In addition not everyone knows abot MLG being ppv, while everyone knows that cars belong to someone and you can't just take them wheter the key is there or not. Random people browsing on twitch.tv will just stumble upon the mlg streams.

Man i feel dumb right now, bought the ticket 1 hour ago and after reading all this i just googled twitch.tv mlg and there they are, all streams in 1080p for free... no restreams, but the official MLG channel...


Sorry but do you even understand the system? of course the streams are all on twitch, MLG is just using twitch to sho the streams, even for their live page,.... but even on those direct links on twitch there is a subscription check. If you dont get this check and dont have to log on, then you are lucky and stumbled onto the bworser glitch which lets you watch for free. The MLG streams on twitch are not free for everyone


if you can use google you can watch it for free...i mean, not rocket science, but just putting it out there for those who really want to watch a couple of games but refuse to pay 20 bucks for that
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
skatbone
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1005 Posts
February 26 2012 01:54 GMT
#3583
Some dude tried to tell me I was inventing the drama in the Leenock v Nani series. Nice micro by Nani with those probes.
Mercurial#1193
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
February 26 2012 01:54 GMT
#3584
On February 26 2012 10:53 Swede wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 10:51 MattyClutch wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:44 Swede wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:40 MattyClutch wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:38 Myles wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:36 MattyClutch wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:34 magnaflow wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:32 MattyClutch wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:30 magnaflow wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:26 MattyClutch wrote:
[quote]

I don't get this... You got exactly what you payed for and you are somehow mad at MLG? Wut?



Other people are getting exactly what I paid for without having to pay. Fucking rights i'm mad at MLG.


And people steal cars. You don't go to the car dealership and go "HEY someone stole a car, I want my money back! It is BS that someone got a car for free, I payed for mine! I mean mine didn't get stolen, it is here exactly what I payed for. But someone somewhere got a free car! RAGE!!!!"

I just don't see why you want to demand money back from MLG when they gave you exactly what you payed for.



Because they are giving you the exact same thing without having to pay for it. I have every right to be pissed off.



No some people found a way to exploit the system. MLG didn't 'give' them that. I highly doubt someone at MLG is going "YES THEY FOUND THE SECRET LOOPHOLE I LEFT FOR THEM!". Much more likely they are working to shut it down now. Do you also get mad at game developers because people pirate games that you payed for? Or movie producers because people BitTorrent movies?

There's no exploit, unless you consider opening the stream like any other an exploit. I'm not even using adblock.


... I think it is very obvious MLG didn't intend for everyone to be able to view it for free. It was obviously an oversight. With a quick search I can find most any software, music, or video product I want for free. It originally came from the developer, that doesn't mean that is how they wanted it to be offered.


How are you still defending them? It doesn't matter that it was an oversight. If you pay for a product then you have every right to expect that oversights of this degree won't happen. It would be considerably better if an exploit was required on the viewers side, but there isn't.

Tell me, how hard could MLG have worked to prevent people from freely accessing the stream if people with no Adblock, no exploit - nothing at all - can open a regular browser and view the stream at no charge?


If you want to be mad that you got exactly what you payed for, go crazy. I can still think you are silly. I have pointed out what an absurd argument this is, you can reread my other posts on the matter if you want. I am content to let angry people be angry as they just ignore all logic in the first place.

Don't expect to get your money back. "I got exactly what I payed for, now give me my money back" is not a logical argument.


But you didn't get exactly what you paid for. Like it or not, getting what you paid for is reliant on other people not getting what they didn't pay for.

Not only that, MLG made it very clear that this was to be a PPV only event. It's ridiculous that a person with no workaround at all and a completely regular browser can just open the stream and get it for free.


if they dont do anything about this their pay for anything will be dead as hell heh
Chun-li since ST
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 26 2012 01:54 GMT
#3585
On February 26 2012 10:53 Swede wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 10:51 MattyClutch wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:44 Swede wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:40 MattyClutch wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:38 Myles wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:36 MattyClutch wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:34 magnaflow wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:32 MattyClutch wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:30 magnaflow wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:26 MattyClutch wrote:
[quote]

I don't get this... You got exactly what you payed for and you are somehow mad at MLG? Wut?



Other people are getting exactly what I paid for without having to pay. Fucking rights i'm mad at MLG.


And people steal cars. You don't go to the car dealership and go "HEY someone stole a car, I want my money back! It is BS that someone got a car for free, I payed for mine! I mean mine didn't get stolen, it is here exactly what I payed for. But someone somewhere got a free car! RAGE!!!!"

I just don't see why you want to demand money back from MLG when they gave you exactly what you payed for.



Because they are giving you the exact same thing without having to pay for it. I have every right to be pissed off.



No some people found a way to exploit the system. MLG didn't 'give' them that. I highly doubt someone at MLG is going "YES THEY FOUND THE SECRET LOOPHOLE I LEFT FOR THEM!". Much more likely they are working to shut it down now. Do you also get mad at game developers because people pirate games that you payed for? Or movie producers because people BitTorrent movies?

There's no exploit, unless you consider opening the stream like any other an exploit. I'm not even using adblock.


... I think it is very obvious MLG didn't intend for everyone to be able to view it for free. It was obviously an oversight. With a quick search I can find most any software, music, or video product I want for free. It originally came from the developer, that doesn't mean that is how they wanted it to be offered.


How are you still defending them? It doesn't matter that it was an oversight. If you pay for a product then you have every right to expect that oversights of this degree won't happen. It would be considerably better if an exploit was required on the viewers side, but there isn't.

Tell me, how hard could MLG have worked to prevent people from freely accessing the stream if people with no Adblock, no exploit - nothing at all - can open a regular browser and view the stream at no charge?


If you want to be mad that you got exactly what you payed for, go crazy. I can still think you are silly. I have pointed out what an absurd argument this is, you can reread my other posts on the matter if you want. I am content to let angry people be angry as they just ignore all logic in the first place.

Don't expect to get your money back. "I got exactly what I payed for, now give me my money back" is not a logical argument.


But you didn't get exactly what you paid for. Like it or not, getting what you paid for is reliant on other people not getting what they didn't pay for.

Not only that, MLG made it very clear that this was to be a PPV only event. It's ridiculous that a person with no workaround at all and a completely regular browser can just open the stream and get it for free.

it is very ridiculous. but you gotta sk8 dude. going to have a heart attack.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
February 26 2012 01:54 GMT
#3586
this is a straight up game. 6 pool did exactly what it should and no more. even from here. no lead for nani b/c auto drone after 6 pool
bouhko
Profile Joined January 2012
193 Posts
February 26 2012 01:54 GMT
#3587
Wow nice defense by nani
u sixpoll ?
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
February 26 2012 01:55 GMT
#3588
On February 26 2012 10:53 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 10:52 ceaRshaf wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:51 shabby wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:51 ceaRshaf wrote:
WHY ARE THEY ALL RUSHING NANWA??>?


Because he is the most greedy person in the entire universe.


But if you rush him all the time you lose that advantage cause he will use that info he gives you to his advantage.


Didn't understand your sentence. If you can punish a greedy player, you should. Doesn't matter if Naniwa sees it coming or not if he goes 17 nexus with 1 cannon.


Naniwa knows that you know that he goes FFE. So in a way you become predictable as well since you are tempted to choose something to punish that.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Whiteman103
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1070 Posts
February 26 2012 01:55 GMT
#3589
On February 26 2012 10:52 ComplexConf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 10:50 Glam wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:48 ComplexConf wrote:
One thing I don't understand is that Nani don't see this coming? And how the hell does he have 4 probes chasing one drone? with 600 minerals and not putting up a cannon or a nexus... What.. the.. BLEEP!!!

Come on Nani, don't disappoint.. Get your revenge!!! Crush this kid!


Artosis fucked us both up on this. It was leenock floating that high.


Ah okay, I mustve been looking at leenocks minerals when artosis said it.. thanks for clearing that up


best thing to do is look at the players color (on map not overlay) and then look at that players color in the top right
ElectricWizard
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway200 Posts
February 26 2012 01:55 GMT
#3590
Naniwa - FE or Die Tryin'
mouzThorZaIN / EmpireviOLet / BboongBboongPRIME / xSixSleep / TSLSymbol
Flanq
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom2694 Posts
February 26 2012 01:55 GMT
#3591
Oh shit son!
Kira__
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
February 26 2012 01:56 GMT
#3592
what a crazy day of sc2
The truth is, Yagami-kun, I suspect that you may in fact be Kira.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
February 26 2012 01:56 GMT
#3593
My stream, she lags! D:
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 01:57:29
February 26 2012 01:56 GMT
#3594
On February 26 2012 10:51 Lennient wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 10:49 MuseMike wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:48 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:46 Almtom wrote:
Korean zergs are soo cheesy whats up with that cant they play macro games?


Seriously? Naniwa was the one who tried to play greedy each and every game and attempted to get away with that. He's the one who tried to eco-cheese every single time. It's not Leenock's fault to punish it.

He put a hatch outside his base. That is cheese, regardless of the reason.

it was not an auto-lose, watch his game in GSL, MC even beat him and let the hatch finish

Exactly, you need to put only 4 probes on the hatch. Not only you don't lose too much mining, but the probes kill the hatch (so no cancel no money for the zerg) just before the queen pops.
MattyClutch
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States711 Posts
February 26 2012 01:57 GMT
#3595
On February 26 2012 10:53 Swede wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 10:51 MattyClutch wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:44 Swede wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:40 MattyClutch wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:38 Myles wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:36 MattyClutch wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:34 magnaflow wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:32 MattyClutch wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:30 magnaflow wrote:
On February 26 2012 10:26 MattyClutch wrote:
[quote]

I don't get this... You got exactly what you payed for and you are somehow mad at MLG? Wut?



Other people are getting exactly what I paid for without having to pay. Fucking rights i'm mad at MLG.


And people steal cars. You don't go to the car dealership and go "HEY someone stole a car, I want my money back! It is BS that someone got a car for free, I payed for mine! I mean mine didn't get stolen, it is here exactly what I payed for. But someone somewhere got a free car! RAGE!!!!"

I just don't see why you want to demand money back from MLG when they gave you exactly what you payed for.



Because they are giving you the exact same thing without having to pay for it. I have every right to be pissed off.



No some people found a way to exploit the system. MLG didn't 'give' them that. I highly doubt someone at MLG is going "YES THEY FOUND THE SECRET LOOPHOLE I LEFT FOR THEM!". Much more likely they are working to shut it down now. Do you also get mad at game developers because people pirate games that you payed for? Or movie producers because people BitTorrent movies?

There's no exploit, unless you consider opening the stream like any other an exploit. I'm not even using adblock.


... I think it is very obvious MLG didn't intend for everyone to be able to view it for free. It was obviously an oversight. With a quick search I can find most any software, music, or video product I want for free. It originally came from the developer, that doesn't mean that is how they wanted it to be offered.


How are you still defending them? It doesn't matter that it was an oversight. If you pay for a product then you have every right to expect that oversights of this degree won't happen. It would be considerably better if an exploit was required on the viewers side, but there isn't.

Tell me, how hard could MLG have worked to prevent people from freely accessing the stream if people with no Adblock, no exploit - nothing at all - can open a regular browser and view the stream at no charge?


If you want to be mad that you got exactly what you payed for, go crazy. I can still think you are silly. I have pointed out what an absurd argument this is, you can reread my other posts on the matter if you want. I am content to let angry people be angry as they just ignore all logic in the first place.

Don't expect to get your money back. "I got exactly what I payed for, now give me my money back" is not a logical argument.


But you didn't get exactly what you paid for. Like it or not, getting what you paid for is reliant on other people not getting what they didn't pay for.

Not only that, MLG made it very clear that this was to be a PPV only event. It's ridiculous that a person with no workaround at all and a completely regular browser can just open the stream and get it for free.


As I mentioned several times before - in the world of entertainment EVERYONE GETS THINGS YOU PAYED FOR WITHOUT PAYING. If you buy video games, people already pirated those. If you watch TV or movies or sporting events - people pirated those. If you buy software - tons of people get that for free via piracy. If you buy a car or a house, several people probably got much better deals that you did.

In none of those situations is it logical to demand your money back. A service was offered and you thought it was at a fair price and bought it. They delivered on their promise to you. I really cannot fathom how this isn't understandable Do you guys just not buy anything digital (or can be made digital) at all?
Nihn'kas Neehn
Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
February 26 2012 01:57 GMT
#3596
mlg needs to cut out this lag, seriously.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
February 26 2012 01:57 GMT
#3597
I love naniwas play. He is like a giant that these zergs try to fall and then he comes and steps on them -))
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
February 26 2012 01:57 GMT
#3598
On February 26 2012 10:54 skatbone wrote:
Some dude tried to tell me I was inventing the drama in the Leenock v Nani series. Nice micro by Nani with those probes.

what drama? its typical ZvNaniwa
skatbone
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1005 Posts
February 26 2012 01:57 GMT
#3599
Serious micro by both these dudes.
Mercurial#1193
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
February 26 2012 01:57 GMT
#3600
Mutas calling it.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
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