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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
February 20 2012 22:21 GMT
#41
He only played once in GCPL, against Liquid. It was fairly soon after he signed for them, so I suppose they felt a need to show off or something.

Hasn't played any team game since.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 20 2012 22:22 GMT
#42
HuK has really slipped under the radar since he switched teams. I imagine he is still really good, but it's hard to tell.
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
February 20 2012 22:27 GMT
#43
EG is the better team overall, I think, but Liquid have done a lot better lately so I think it will be close. 5-4 EG.
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Robson13
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom248 Posts
February 20 2012 22:28 GMT
#44
On February 21 2012 07:20 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 07:13 Bagration wrote:
On February 21 2012 07:02 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On February 21 2012 06:25 Bagration wrote:
On February 21 2012 06:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
2:1 ratio for TL? Figured the poll would be more even.

Hoping for the ace match ^^

gogogogo EG :D


People tend to look very heavily, probably too heavily on the most recent results. I think and hope that it will be close this time.

well considering EG has failed in ever team aspect in the last 2 months I think it has some merrit


It does have a lot of merit, but we also cannot overlook the fundamental strength of the team. Puma, JYP, Huk and even Idra are still strong players, and will not fall easily. It will be close, and that is why it is especially worth watching in my opinion.

For comparison, Slayers did horribly in the last GSTL, but people still think that they have a good shot to win this season's GSTL because the team is still so strong, despite not winning a GSTL since May 2011.

go through those 4 players you just named I dont think Huk has ever play for eg in team league maybe once JYP so unproven, Idra well put a T and he will give up. But Puma is amazing for sure. Im just saying in a team league aspect they have performed so horribly to watch they should have


Idra favourite match-up is ZvT ? JYP could play very well here since Jinro is the only T and JYP could still beat Jinro even though his PvT is poor.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
February 20 2012 22:30 GMT
#45
Just looking at TL's roster makes me facepalm at the number of zergs. Even though they've been struggling lately, I've got a feeling EG will take it 5-3 or 5-4
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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 20 2012 22:32 GMT
#46
The thing is, tl doesn't really ever have to play Jinro. He's good, but they have significant other options, and nobody on EG has an Achilles heel in XvT
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 20 2012 22:33 GMT
#47
On February 21 2012 07:20 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 07:13 Bagration wrote:
On February 21 2012 07:02 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On February 21 2012 06:25 Bagration wrote:
On February 21 2012 06:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
2:1 ratio for TL? Figured the poll would be more even.

Hoping for the ace match ^^

gogogogo EG :D


People tend to look very heavily, probably too heavily on the most recent results. I think and hope that it will be close this time.

well considering EG has failed in ever team aspect in the last 2 months I think it has some merrit


It does have a lot of merit, but we also cannot overlook the fundamental strength of the team. Puma, JYP, Huk and even Idra are still strong players, and will not fall easily. It will be close, and that is why it is especially worth watching in my opinion.

For comparison, Slayers did horribly in the last GSTL, but people still think that they have a good shot to win this season's GSTL because the team is still so strong, despite not winning a GSTL since May 2011.

go through those 4 players you just named I dont think Huk has ever play for eg in team league maybe once JYP so unproven, Idra well put a T and he will give up. But Puma is amazing for sure. Im just saying in a team league aspect they have performed so horribly to watch they should have


Yes, I agree that EG has performed horrendously. Still, I think the match could be close, and I certainly hope for it to be. I would not exactly call JYP unproven, as he does have GSL experience and various other appearances at other LANs. Idra is a very mentally weak player, but EG does not need for him to get several kills like they would have a year ago. EG and Liquid both have similar depth in talent, and while results for the 2 teams this year has been very different, I still hope for a close match.

I am not really invested too much in who wins, only hoping for a great series between two rivals.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 20 2012 22:33 GMT
#48
On February 21 2012 07:32 Froadac wrote:
The thing is, tl doesn't really ever have to play Jinro. He's good, but they have significant other options, and nobody on EG has an Achilles heel in XvT


JYP does
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weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
February 20 2012 22:34 GMT
#49
On February 21 2012 07:22 Froadac wrote:
HuK has really slipped under the radar since he switched teams. I imagine he is still really good, but it's hard to tell.

HuK actually started his domination in EG. He did well when in Liquid going up to code S but he only won his MLG in EG
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
February 20 2012 22:35 GMT
#50
On February 21 2012 07:33 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 07:32 Froadac wrote:
The thing is, tl doesn't really ever have to play Jinro. He's good, but they have significant other options, and nobody on EG has an Achilles heel in XvT


JYP does


On the other hand, Jinro's Achilles heel is probably also TvP.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 20 2012 22:36 GMT
#51
On February 21 2012 07:34 weiliem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 07:22 Froadac wrote:
HuK has really slipped under the radar since he switched teams. I imagine he is still really good, but it's hard to tell.

HuK actually started his domination in EG. He did well when in Liquid going up to code S but he only won his MLG in EG


He won Dreamhack Summer and Homestory Cup 3. But recently there has been strangely little activity from him. Good thing we will get to see him at MLG Winter Arena.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
February 20 2012 22:37 GMT
#52
On February 21 2012 07:34 weiliem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 07:22 Froadac wrote:
HuK has really slipped under the radar since he switched teams. I imagine he is still really good, but it's hard to tell.

HuK actually started his domination in EG. He did well when in Liquid going up to code S but he only won his MLG in EG


He won Dreamhack and HomeStory Cup III in a week on Liquid. Additionally he has stated after MLG Orlando, that he wouldn't have won it without his time on Liquid.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
February 20 2012 22:39 GMT
#53
On February 21 2012 06:37 Brootalbro wrote:
EG is pretty good but as far as skill and shit, TL has more experienced, more skilled better players. Calling a sweep all kill since litetally any of the Liquid players can (and probably will) all kill the EG team even on bad days. Lol this is pretty one sided its hilarious. Calling a hero, ret, Zenio, sheth, or TLO all kill. Probably one of the easiest predictions I've made. But one thing TL, if they send out PuMa first, don't send out a Protoss unless nony or hero is good and consistent at stopping 1/1/1

Hahahahahahahhaha.
TLO would count himself lucky to beat any of the top EG line-up, and neither Sheth or Ret could all-kill EG. Sure, maybe they could take down a couple, but I know that at least Idra's ZvZ is better than both Sheth's and Ret's. PvZ is JYP's best match up, and I tihnk only Zenio would have a great shot at taking him down of the zergs. Hero is sick scary though, I do admit. Puma vs Hero should be great
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Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
February 20 2012 22:40 GMT
#54
On February 21 2012 07:37 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 07:34 weiliem wrote:
On February 21 2012 07:22 Froadac wrote:
HuK has really slipped under the radar since he switched teams. I imagine he is still really good, but it's hard to tell.

HuK actually started his domination in EG. He did well when in Liquid going up to code S but he only won his MLG in EG


He won Dreamhack and HomeStory Cup III in a week on Liquid. Additionally he has stated after MLG Orlando, that he wouldn't have won it without his time on Liquid.

Yeah, the Liquid-oGs deal really helped him out ^^ It's ridiculous to say that he got worse after joining EG though
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
February 20 2012 22:44 GMT
#55
On February 21 2012 07:39 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 06:37 Brootalbro wrote:
EG is pretty good but as far as skill and shit, TL has more experienced, more skilled better players. Calling a sweep all kill since litetally any of the Liquid players can (and probably will) all kill the EG team even on bad days. Lol this is pretty one sided its hilarious. Calling a hero, ret, Zenio, sheth, or TLO all kill. Probably one of the easiest predictions I've made. But one thing TL, if they send out PuMa first, don't send out a Protoss unless nony or hero is good and consistent at stopping 1/1/1

Hahahahahahahhaha.
TLO would count himself lucky to beat any of the top EG line-up, and neither Sheth or Ret could all-kill EG. Sure, maybe they could take down a couple, but I know that at least Idra's ZvZ is better than both Sheth's and Ret's. PvZ is JYP's best match up, and I tihnk only Zenio would have a great shot at taking him down of the zergs. Hero is sick scary though, I do admit. Puma vs Hero should be great

You never know. TLO beat MKP who's better than everyone on both teams, and I'd hesitate to bet on Idra in any match these days. Dude's too volatile.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
February 20 2012 22:50 GMT
#56
I predict an IdrA allkill.
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
February 20 2012 22:50 GMT
#57
On February 21 2012 07:34 weiliem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 07:22 Froadac wrote:
HuK has really slipped under the radar since he switched teams. I imagine he is still really good, but it's hard to tell.

HuK actually started his domination in EG. He did well when in Liquid going up to code S but he only won his MLG in EG


It would be smart to check stuff before you write anything.

He won his first MLG in Millenium. He won two major European tournaments right before MLG while on Liquid.

Not to mention that his "EG" MLG win and the last high-ranking Code S season were both less than a month after he got signed and the only thing EG had to do with that win was get him on an airplane both ways.

The only thing that started with him going to EG was his decline. As many predicted it would.

Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
February 20 2012 22:52 GMT
#58
On February 21 2012 07:44 Redmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 07:39 Aocowns wrote:
On February 21 2012 06:37 Brootalbro wrote:
EG is pretty good but as far as skill and shit, TL has more experienced, more skilled better players. Calling a sweep all kill since litetally any of the Liquid players can (and probably will) all kill the EG team even on bad days. Lol this is pretty one sided its hilarious. Calling a hero, ret, Zenio, sheth, or TLO all kill. Probably one of the easiest predictions I've made. But one thing TL, if they send out PuMa first, don't send out a Protoss unless nony or hero is good and consistent at stopping 1/1/1

Hahahahahahahhaha.
TLO would count himself lucky to beat any of the top EG line-up, and neither Sheth or Ret could all-kill EG. Sure, maybe they could take down a couple, but I know that at least Idra's ZvZ is better than both Sheth's and Ret's. PvZ is JYP's best match up, and I tihnk only Zenio would have a great shot at taking him down of the zergs. Hero is sick scary though, I do admit. Puma vs Hero should be great

You never know. TLO beat MKP who's better than everyone on both teams, and I'd hesitate to bet on Idra in any match these days. Dude's too volatile.

Let's just say most of the TL and EG members are inconsistent.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
February 20 2012 22:52 GMT
#59
On February 21 2012 07:44 Redmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 07:39 Aocowns wrote:
On February 21 2012 06:37 Brootalbro wrote:
EG is pretty good but as far as skill and shit, TL has more experienced, more skilled better players. Calling a sweep all kill since litetally any of the Liquid players can (and probably will) all kill the EG team even on bad days. Lol this is pretty one sided its hilarious. Calling a hero, ret, Zenio, sheth, or TLO all kill. Probably one of the easiest predictions I've made. But one thing TL, if they send out PuMa first, don't send out a Protoss unless nony or hero is good and consistent at stopping 1/1/1

Hahahahahahahhaha.
TLO would count himself lucky to beat any of the top EG line-up, and neither Sheth or Ret could all-kill EG. Sure, maybe they could take down a couple, but I know that at least Idra's ZvZ is better than both Sheth's and Ret's. PvZ is JYP's best match up, and I tihnk only Zenio would have a great shot at taking him down of the zergs. Hero is sick scary though, I do admit. Puma vs Hero should be great

You never know. TLO beat MKP who's better than everyone on both teams, and I'd hesitate to bet on Idra in any match these days. Dude's too volatile.

TLO beat MKP on cross-server with some whacky shit no one has ever seen before, didn't he? Love TLOs creativety :D

Idra has had a problem actually caring the last few official matches, I do agree >_< Hopefully someone talked to him after throwing that game against Thorzain, so he'll actually try this time though.
Both Idra and Huk despise playing cross-server, and Huk outright refuses as far as I know, so maybe we won't see them at all
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
February 20 2012 22:54 GMT
#60
On February 21 2012 07:50 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 07:34 weiliem wrote:
On February 21 2012 07:22 Froadac wrote:
HuK has really slipped under the radar since he switched teams. I imagine he is still really good, but it's hard to tell.

HuK actually started his domination in EG. He did well when in Liquid going up to code S but he only won his MLG in EG


It would be smart to check stuff before you write anything.

He won his first MLG in Millenium. He won two major European tournaments right before MLG while on Liquid.

Not to mention that his "EG" MLG win and the last high-ranking Code S season were both less than a month after he got signed and the only thing EG had to do with that win was get him on an airplane both ways.

The only thing that started with him going to EG was his decline. As many predicted it would.


Yeah, it didn't have anything AT ALL to do with the excessive travelling -.- Why the hell would his skill level decline? He still practice in the oGs house I think. As far as I know, he has yet to move in with SlayerS with the rest of EG-Korea
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