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DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
February 23 2012 13:46 GMT
#401
Well it seemed like this showmatch was going to be a disaster when Dimaga didnt show up but it turned out pretty great! Really cool to listen to Dimaga and Ret talk strategy, and to see both of them play iNcontrol.
SafeWord
Profile Joined February 2010
United States522 Posts
February 23 2012 13:57 GMT
#402
Is there an MP3?
Who needs players when you have God?
Critta.Magowen
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3 Posts
February 23 2012 14:02 GMT
#403

if you didn't think those games were over early then you're out of your mind.


It's not that the average fan doesn't know those games are over early. It is that it's your job as a caster to make the games both informative and interesting. When you watch traditional sports they don't spend the whole second half of a blowout tearing down the other team or speculating when that team is going to mentally throw in the towel. They use that time to constructively show how the winning team is doing something that the losing team can't counter.

I don't mean this post to be a bashing of casters/casting. 99% of people couldn't do as well as you at this and I really appreciate the high quality of casting. Just be accepting of criticsm that will help you grow in your profession.

I generally like your style of casting and really appreciate matches like this, but I think that criticism was pretty fair and something a lot of casters (even the best) can work on. Didn't catch the last few matches (east coast time) so hopefully these will be on VOD's somewhere?

Cheers
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 14:19:19
February 23 2012 14:19 GMT
#404
What's the end score? Couldn't find it in the op nor in the last couple of pages.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 14:26:05
February 23 2012 14:25 GMT
#405
On February 23 2012 23:19 JustPassingBy wrote:
What's the end score? Couldn't find it in the op nor in the last couple of pages.


VOD
+ Show Spoiler +

(P)iNcontroL < 0 - 3 > (Z)Ret
(P)iNcontroL < 2 - 3 > (Z)DIMAGA

Thank God and gunrun.
ChapatiyaqPTSM
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1887 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 14:26:39
February 23 2012 14:25 GMT
#406
On February 23 2012 23:19 JustPassingBy wrote:
What's the end score? Couldn't find it in the op nor in the last couple of pages.

Page 19:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 23 2012 17:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Final scores:

Ret > iNcontroL 3-0
Dimaga > iNcontroL 3-2

3:30 AM here x.x I'm done.

Night guys ^^
LiquipediaBoy, these pretzels are makin' me thirsty.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
February 23 2012 14:28 GMT
#407
On February 23 2012 18:36 Durn wrote:
Geoff has nothing to be ashamed of. A few key mistakes for him cost him the game, not like he was just getting run over. I think he has some learning to do but he is shaping up in a good way. Taking 2 games off a dude like Dimaga is awesome.

That being said, great games by Dimaga. Really showing how the PvZ matchup needs to be played against a style like iNcontroL's. Ling runby + aggressive expanding.

AAAAAAAAAAND, inevitably... Gretorp's casting... the dude needs to learn to be less critical. My goodness. I get that he has some good game knowledge but calling decisions "incorrect" and spending 5 minutes trying to guess when the gg will be called feels so awkward.


gretorp has gotten better imo, if anything i prefer casters to be critical as opposed to just saying "oh well he played well but got unlucky" or some bullshit
Prime Directive
Profile Joined December 2011
United States186 Posts
February 23 2012 15:28 GMT
#408
On February 23 2012 19:16 Gretorp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 18:36 Durn wrote:
Geoff has nothing to be ashamed of. A few key mistakes for him cost him the game, not like he was just getting run over. I think he has some learning to do but he is shaping up in a good way. Taking 2 games off a dude like Dimaga is awesome.

That being said, great games by Dimaga. Really showing how the PvZ matchup needs to be played against a style like iNcontroL's. Ling runby + aggressive expanding.

AAAAAAAAAAND, inevitably... Gretorp's casting... the dude needs to learn to be less critical. My goodness. I get that he has some good game knowledge but calling decisions "incorrect" and spending 5 minutes trying to guess when the gg will be called feels so awkward.


if you didn't think those games were over early then you're out of your mind.


Just want to point out that felt the same way as Durn here. Enjoyed the event though! Appreciate putting it together.
Gretorp
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States586 Posts
February 23 2012 17:41 GMT
#409
On February 23 2012 23:02 Critta.Magowen wrote:
Show nested quote +

if you didn't think those games were over early then you're out of your mind.


It's not that the average fan doesn't know those games are over early. It is that it's your job as a caster to make the games both informative and interesting. When you watch traditional sports they don't spend the whole second half of a blowout tearing down the other team or speculating when that team is going to mentally throw in the towel. They use that time to constructively show how the winning team is doing something that the losing team can't counter.

I don't mean this post to be a bashing of casters/casting. 99% of people couldn't do as well as you at this and I really appreciate the high quality of casting. Just be accepting of criticsm that will help you grow in your profession.

I generally like your style of casting and really appreciate matches like this, but I think that criticism was pretty fair and something a lot of casters (even the best) can work on. Didn't catch the last few matches (east coast time) so hopefully these will be on VOD's somewhere?

Cheers


But this isn't NASL. I don't have to do that. I'm not appealing to that audience. if you don't like it don't watch it. (not actually you)

In this showmatch where it's mine and I can do whatever I want, I choose to not go that route. If you watch my other stuff then yes I do exactly that. I'm not going to fake anything for the sake of super low level people not understanding that the game is over. if people don't get that then the majority of things I say in the cast is compeltely useless to them anyway and they shouldn't be watching.
I am Unheard Change
Eshra
Profile Joined April 2011
France1009 Posts
February 23 2012 21:39 GMT
#410
On February 24 2012 02:41 Gretorp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 23:02 Critta.Magowen wrote:

if you didn't think those games were over early then you're out of your mind.


It's not that the average fan doesn't know those games are over early. It is that it's your job as a caster to make the games both informative and interesting. When you watch traditional sports they don't spend the whole second half of a blowout tearing down the other team or speculating when that team is going to mentally throw in the towel. They use that time to constructively show how the winning team is doing something that the losing team can't counter.

I don't mean this post to be a bashing of casters/casting. 99% of people couldn't do as well as you at this and I really appreciate the high quality of casting. Just be accepting of criticsm that will help you grow in your profession.

I generally like your style of casting and really appreciate matches like this, but I think that criticism was pretty fair and something a lot of casters (even the best) can work on. Didn't catch the last few matches (east coast time) so hopefully these will be on VOD's somewhere?

Cheers


But this isn't NASL. I don't have to do that. I'm not appealing to that audience. if you don't like it don't watch it. (not actually you)

In this showmatch where it's mine and I can do whatever I want, I choose to not go that route. If you watch my other stuff then yes I do exactly that. I'm not going to fake anything for the sake of super low level people not understanding that the game is over. if people don't get that then the majority of things I say in the cast is compeltely useless to them anyway and they shouldn't be watching.


He's not talking about you needing to fake anything. He's just stating that your job as a caster is to come up with something that could be interesting as well as informative even though the game is over ( and we know it's over ).
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