• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:08
CEST 03:08
KST 10:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16
Community News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results1Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !11Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results MaNa leaves Team Liquid Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! $5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026 SC2 INu's Battles#16 <BO.9> Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes Mutation # 523 Firewall
Brood War
General
Pros React to: TvT Masterclass in FlaSh vs Light ASL21 Strategy, Pimpest Plays Discussions vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Flashes ASL S21 Ro8 Review BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals B [ASL21] Semifinals A [BSL22] RO8 Bracket Stage + Another TieBreaker Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1714 users

MSI Pro Cup #7 by Millenium - Page 16

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 19 Next All
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
February 29 2012 19:38 GMT
#301
On March 01 2012 04:36 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 04:35 eYeball wrote:
On March 01 2012 04:34 IMoperator wrote:
Isn't it 4:30 am in Korea?

Yeah but does it have to be live? Couldn't it be replays?


Stephano streamed his games + Polt was laddering before his match against Stephano.

Doubt it affects polt at all anyhow, he plays so many european cups its absurd(Winning ESET summer qualifier yesterday as well)
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
February 29 2012 19:46 GMT
#302
4gate is such a bad build
yo
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
February 29 2012 19:47 GMT
#303
It was a good effort Adel!
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
February 29 2012 19:48 GMT
#304
On March 01 2012 04:46 Killmouse wrote:
4gate is such a bad build

It's not that bad, but thorzain went for 4 rax which is close to the optimal counter. Also, you really need sentries to break the bunker.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
February 29 2012 19:52 GMT
#305
On March 01 2012 04:34 IMoperator wrote:
Isn't it 4:30 am in Korea?

Polt's so good, he 2-0s Stephano while sleeping.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
February 29 2012 19:54 GMT
#306
Polt is 6-1 vs. Stephano, and have now eliminated him from two separate tournaments.

I wonder if Stephano will start taking ZvT more seriously now. His opinion a week or two ago was still that he's not practicing ZvT that much because he doesn't like it, but with Polt playing in every EU tournament these days it can't be good for Stephano's bank to not work on this MU.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 20:05:06
February 29 2012 19:58 GMT
#307
1-2 MSI Cup #5
3-2 Eizo Cup #2
1-4 Assembly Winter 2012
0-2 MSI Cup #7

5-10 total. It's not like losing to Polt means Stephano's ZvT is weak. Polt still has MMA's number and MMA is one of the best TvT players in the world. This happens all the time: Shine vs Bisu, Shuttle vs Flash last year, Cloud vs Goody.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
February 29 2012 19:59 GMT
#308
On March 01 2012 04:54 Azarkon wrote:
Polt is 6-1 vs. Stephano, and have now eliminated him from two separate tournaments.

I wonder if Stephano will start taking ZvT more seriously now. His opinion a week or two ago was still that he's not practicing ZvT that much because he doesn't like it, but with Polt playing in every EU tournament these days it can't be good for Stephano's bank to not work on this MU.


His ZvT isnt bad he did 3-0 puma like less then a week ago and the same Puma 3-0 Idra last time they meet. And everyone says Idra´s ZvT is godlike. I think it has alot todo with styles. Just like Polt beat MMA everytime they meet he seems to have Stephanos numbers also.

Game 1 was amasing and it was incredible high skill lvl by both players i was so sure Stephano was dead at the start but some amasing defence saved him.

As a Stephano fan I think we just need to avoid him abit until Stephano learns how to deal with polt style.

ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 20:05:18
February 29 2012 19:59 GMT
#309
On March 01 2012 04:58 CosmicSpiral wrote:
2-1 MSI Cup #6
2-3 Eizo Cup #2
1-4 Assembly Winter 2012
0-2 MSI Cup #7

5-10 total. It's not like losing to Polt means Stephano's ZvT is weak.

They didnt meet in MSI cup #6(He lost to thorzain). He won the Eizo cup #2 tho(Played on EU server)


On March 01 2012 04:59 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 04:54 Azarkon wrote:
Polt is 6-1 vs. Stephano, and have now eliminated him from two separate tournaments.

I wonder if Stephano will start taking ZvT more seriously now. His opinion a week or two ago was still that he's not practicing ZvT that much because he doesn't like it, but with Polt playing in every EU tournament these days it can't be good for Stephano's bank to not work on this MU.


His ZvT isnt bad he did 3-0 puma like less then a week ago and the same Puma 3-0 Idra last time they meet. And everyone says Idra´s ZvT is godlike. I think it has alot todo with styles. Just like Polt beat MMA everytime they meet he seems to have Stephanos numbers also.

Game 1 was amasing and it was incredible high skill lvl by both players i was so sure Stephano was dead at the start but some amasing defence saved him.

As a Stephano fan I think we just need to avoid him abit until Stephano learns how to deal with polt style.


Idras ZvT is not godlike, then he wouldnt be manhandled by taeja and Alive like he did. Puma is a bit of a hit and miss TvZ wise. But Stephano still have very good ZvT compaired to foreigners. I just belive its very hard to practice a matchup when foreign terrans just seems weaker than koreans at TvZ. So finding players to play against can be very hard
ydeer1993
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom569 Posts
February 29 2012 20:03 GMT
#310
how were the stephano - polt games, 1 sided? if someone could be kind enough to give a map by map run thro :D
**MMA** - MVP - Seed !
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
February 29 2012 20:03 GMT
#311
On March 01 2012 04:54 Azarkon wrote:
Polt is 6-1 vs. Stephano, and have now eliminated him from two separate tournaments.

I wonder if Stephano will start taking ZvT more seriously now. His opinion a week or two ago was still that he's not practicing ZvT that much because he doesn't like it, but with Polt playing in every EU tournament these days it can't be good for Stephano's bank to not work on this MU.


Overall Stephano is 5-10 vs Polt. And at Assembly every game was very close, Stephano lead in several games, despite the 1-4.
But I agree, its obv ZvT is his weakest MU and he should train it. Problem is that korean terrans are way better than foreign terrans (doesnt apply to other races so much).
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 20:10:27
February 29 2012 20:06 GMT
#312
No, I don't think it shows that his ZvT is weak. But the thing with professional SC 2 is that if there's one person or MU that you have a hard time beating, then your tournament results will suffer disproportionately even if you're awesome at everything else.

Take Grubby, for example. He's been eliminated more times by Stephano than one wants to count. Without Stephano Grubby could have made it to many more finals and gotten more wins, at which point his career would skyrocket and he'd be much more successful than he is now.

MKP is another example. His TvMVP has cost him a lot of wins and a lot of money. This MLG, if MVP wasn't wrist injured, he could've done the same thing.

A lot of foreigner pros, I think, have this problem, in the sense that they can beat Koreans but not all of them, and those that they cannot beat invariably cost them their tournament wins, leading to the impression that foreigners suck because they can't win tournaments.

If Stephano falls into that boat then it's going to be hard to make a stand out performance. His record before these two tournaments vs. Polt were catapulting him to the top of the world. Now I think the hype is dying down and the going in any tournament Polt enters will be tough.
Dark supplydepo
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden103 Posts
February 29 2012 20:10 GMT
#313
The MSI pro cup is all about thorzain losing the finals 3-0 to polt. step aside adel
Supreme exellence is deafeting your opponent without fighting. It is also boring
gwixter
Profile Joined January 2011
Slovakia336 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 20:14:22
February 29 2012 20:13 GMT
#314
On March 01 2012 05:03 ydeer1993 wrote:
how were the stephano - polt games, 1 sided? if someone could be kind enough to give a map by map run thro :D

On first map (taldarim) polt went for helion marauder push, which stephano barely held (lost hatch) and then it went to late game but with equal bases and polts' crazy macro he was able to trade with stephano very well and finally beat his ultra ling infestor compostion with tanks and marines

On shattered stephano tried baneling bust and it failed hard against polts marines and helions. Stephano stayed in game for a little longer but it was basically over right there.
"If you can chill, chill" - Liquid`Tyler || <3 Kiira Korpi :D
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
February 29 2012 20:17 GMT
#315
MSI cup should rename it self to Thorzain vs Polt showmatch
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
February 29 2012 20:19 GMT
#316
On March 01 2012 05:17 ragnorr wrote:
MSI cup should rename it self to Thorzain vs Polt showmatch

Haha. True. 3rd time in a row now
ramask2
Profile Joined June 2011
Thailand1024 Posts
February 29 2012 20:19 GMT
#317
Ok Thorzain, 3rd time is the charm! (or actually 4th if you actually count all the MSI finals he's gotten into in a row)
KillAudio
Profile Joined October 2010
1364 Posts
February 29 2012 20:21 GMT
#318
wow, stephano's kryptonite.
From a scale of sheth to idra, how mad are you?
Huragius
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
February 29 2012 20:35 GMT
#319
Oh my god, if he is actually going to get dropped :/...
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
February 29 2012 20:38 GMT
#320
battlenet itself can't handle anymore Polt vs Thorzain finals
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 19 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Amantes de StarCraft 2 #44
CranKy Ducklings90
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ROOTCatZ 67
Ketroc 35
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 10503
GuemChi 4940
Aegong 101
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm123
League of Legends
summit1g11334
Doublelift10264
Counter-Strike
taco 326
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox530
AZ_Axe87
Other Games
gofns15416
tarik_tv10227
C9.Mang0417
JimRising 362
monkeys_forever305
Artosis296
Maynarde161
PiGStarcraft135
ViBE117
Livibee108
CosmosSc2 35
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta43
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP13
• Adnapsc2 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21326
League of Legends
• Scarra880
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
8h 52m
Classic vs Solar
herO vs SHIN
OSC
11h 52m
Big Brain Bouts
14h 52m
sebesdes vs Iba
Percival vs YoungYakov
Reynor vs GgMaChine
Korean StarCraft League
1d 1h
RSL Revival
1d 8h
Clem vs Rogue
Bunny vs Lambo
IPSL
1d 14h
Dewalt vs nOmaD
Ret vs Cross
BSL
1d 17h
Bonyth vs Doodle
Dewalt vs TerrOr
GSL
2 days
Cure vs herO
SHIN vs Maru
IPSL
2 days
Bonyth vs Napoleon
G5 vs JDConan
BSL
2 days
OyAji vs JDConan
DragOn vs TBD
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
GSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-13
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
Escore Tournament S2: W7
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.