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ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
February 29 2012 19:38 GMT
#301
On March 01 2012 04:36 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 04:35 eYeball wrote:
On March 01 2012 04:34 IMoperator wrote:
Isn't it 4:30 am in Korea?

Yeah but does it have to be live? Couldn't it be replays?


Stephano streamed his games + Polt was laddering before his match against Stephano.

Doubt it affects polt at all anyhow, he plays so many european cups its absurd(Winning ESET summer qualifier yesterday as well)
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
February 29 2012 19:46 GMT
#302
4gate is such a bad build
yo
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
February 29 2012 19:47 GMT
#303
It was a good effort Adel!
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
February 29 2012 19:48 GMT
#304
On March 01 2012 04:46 Killmouse wrote:
4gate is such a bad build

It's not that bad, but thorzain went for 4 rax which is close to the optimal counter. Also, you really need sentries to break the bunker.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
February 29 2012 19:52 GMT
#305
On March 01 2012 04:34 IMoperator wrote:
Isn't it 4:30 am in Korea?

Polt's so good, he 2-0s Stephano while sleeping.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
February 29 2012 19:54 GMT
#306
Polt is 6-1 vs. Stephano, and have now eliminated him from two separate tournaments.

I wonder if Stephano will start taking ZvT more seriously now. His opinion a week or two ago was still that he's not practicing ZvT that much because he doesn't like it, but with Polt playing in every EU tournament these days it can't be good for Stephano's bank to not work on this MU.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 20:05:06
February 29 2012 19:58 GMT
#307
1-2 MSI Cup #5
3-2 Eizo Cup #2
1-4 Assembly Winter 2012
0-2 MSI Cup #7

5-10 total. It's not like losing to Polt means Stephano's ZvT is weak. Polt still has MMA's number and MMA is one of the best TvT players in the world. This happens all the time: Shine vs Bisu, Shuttle vs Flash last year, Cloud vs Goody.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
February 29 2012 19:59 GMT
#308
On March 01 2012 04:54 Azarkon wrote:
Polt is 6-1 vs. Stephano, and have now eliminated him from two separate tournaments.

I wonder if Stephano will start taking ZvT more seriously now. His opinion a week or two ago was still that he's not practicing ZvT that much because he doesn't like it, but with Polt playing in every EU tournament these days it can't be good for Stephano's bank to not work on this MU.


His ZvT isnt bad he did 3-0 puma like less then a week ago and the same Puma 3-0 Idra last time they meet. And everyone says Idra´s ZvT is godlike. I think it has alot todo with styles. Just like Polt beat MMA everytime they meet he seems to have Stephanos numbers also.

Game 1 was amasing and it was incredible high skill lvl by both players i was so sure Stephano was dead at the start but some amasing defence saved him.

As a Stephano fan I think we just need to avoid him abit until Stephano learns how to deal with polt style.

ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 20:05:18
February 29 2012 19:59 GMT
#309
On March 01 2012 04:58 CosmicSpiral wrote:
2-1 MSI Cup #6
2-3 Eizo Cup #2
1-4 Assembly Winter 2012
0-2 MSI Cup #7

5-10 total. It's not like losing to Polt means Stephano's ZvT is weak.

They didnt meet in MSI cup #6(He lost to thorzain). He won the Eizo cup #2 tho(Played on EU server)


On March 01 2012 04:59 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2012 04:54 Azarkon wrote:
Polt is 6-1 vs. Stephano, and have now eliminated him from two separate tournaments.

I wonder if Stephano will start taking ZvT more seriously now. His opinion a week or two ago was still that he's not practicing ZvT that much because he doesn't like it, but with Polt playing in every EU tournament these days it can't be good for Stephano's bank to not work on this MU.


His ZvT isnt bad he did 3-0 puma like less then a week ago and the same Puma 3-0 Idra last time they meet. And everyone says Idra´s ZvT is godlike. I think it has alot todo with styles. Just like Polt beat MMA everytime they meet he seems to have Stephanos numbers also.

Game 1 was amasing and it was incredible high skill lvl by both players i was so sure Stephano was dead at the start but some amasing defence saved him.

As a Stephano fan I think we just need to avoid him abit until Stephano learns how to deal with polt style.


Idras ZvT is not godlike, then he wouldnt be manhandled by taeja and Alive like he did. Puma is a bit of a hit and miss TvZ wise. But Stephano still have very good ZvT compaired to foreigners. I just belive its very hard to practice a matchup when foreign terrans just seems weaker than koreans at TvZ. So finding players to play against can be very hard
ydeer1993
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom569 Posts
February 29 2012 20:03 GMT
#310
how were the stephano - polt games, 1 sided? if someone could be kind enough to give a map by map run thro :D
**MMA** - MVP - Seed !
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
February 29 2012 20:03 GMT
#311
On March 01 2012 04:54 Azarkon wrote:
Polt is 6-1 vs. Stephano, and have now eliminated him from two separate tournaments.

I wonder if Stephano will start taking ZvT more seriously now. His opinion a week or two ago was still that he's not practicing ZvT that much because he doesn't like it, but with Polt playing in every EU tournament these days it can't be good for Stephano's bank to not work on this MU.


Overall Stephano is 5-10 vs Polt. And at Assembly every game was very close, Stephano lead in several games, despite the 1-4.
But I agree, its obv ZvT is his weakest MU and he should train it. Problem is that korean terrans are way better than foreign terrans (doesnt apply to other races so much).
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 20:10:27
February 29 2012 20:06 GMT
#312
No, I don't think it shows that his ZvT is weak. But the thing with professional SC 2 is that if there's one person or MU that you have a hard time beating, then your tournament results will suffer disproportionately even if you're awesome at everything else.

Take Grubby, for example. He's been eliminated more times by Stephano than one wants to count. Without Stephano Grubby could have made it to many more finals and gotten more wins, at which point his career would skyrocket and he'd be much more successful than he is now.

MKP is another example. His TvMVP has cost him a lot of wins and a lot of money. This MLG, if MVP wasn't wrist injured, he could've done the same thing.

A lot of foreigner pros, I think, have this problem, in the sense that they can beat Koreans but not all of them, and those that they cannot beat invariably cost them their tournament wins, leading to the impression that foreigners suck because they can't win tournaments.

If Stephano falls into that boat then it's going to be hard to make a stand out performance. His record before these two tournaments vs. Polt were catapulting him to the top of the world. Now I think the hype is dying down and the going in any tournament Polt enters will be tough.
Dark supplydepo
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden103 Posts
February 29 2012 20:10 GMT
#313
The MSI pro cup is all about thorzain losing the finals 3-0 to polt. step aside adel
Supreme exellence is deafeting your opponent without fighting. It is also boring
gwixter
Profile Joined January 2011
Slovakia336 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-29 20:14:22
February 29 2012 20:13 GMT
#314
On March 01 2012 05:03 ydeer1993 wrote:
how were the stephano - polt games, 1 sided? if someone could be kind enough to give a map by map run thro :D

On first map (taldarim) polt went for helion marauder push, which stephano barely held (lost hatch) and then it went to late game but with equal bases and polts' crazy macro he was able to trade with stephano very well and finally beat his ultra ling infestor compostion with tanks and marines

On shattered stephano tried baneling bust and it failed hard against polts marines and helions. Stephano stayed in game for a little longer but it was basically over right there.
"If you can chill, chill" - Liquid`Tyler || <3 Kiira Korpi :D
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
February 29 2012 20:17 GMT
#315
MSI cup should rename it self to Thorzain vs Polt showmatch
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
February 29 2012 20:19 GMT
#316
On March 01 2012 05:17 ragnorr wrote:
MSI cup should rename it self to Thorzain vs Polt showmatch

Haha. True. 3rd time in a row now
ramask2
Profile Joined June 2011
Thailand1024 Posts
February 29 2012 20:19 GMT
#317
Ok Thorzain, 3rd time is the charm! (or actually 4th if you actually count all the MSI finals he's gotten into in a row)
KillAudio
Profile Joined October 2010
1364 Posts
February 29 2012 20:21 GMT
#318
wow, stephano's kryptonite.
From a scale of sheth to idra, how mad are you?
Huragius
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
February 29 2012 20:35 GMT
#319
Oh my god, if he is actually going to get dropped :/...
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
February 29 2012 20:38 GMT
#320
battlenet itself can't handle anymore Polt vs Thorzain finals
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