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TheBB
Switzerland5133 Posts
On February 10 2012 05:45 Arc1 wrote: Yes you're right. I don't get it why MrBitter always has problem with this. Eh, it's not hard to understand that mental arithmetic is hard in certain situations. I was on a national talk show in prime time (no foolin') and I managed to confuse myself over whether 10^18 was a billion billions or not. | ||
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FreudianTrip
Switzerland1983 Posts
Theres only 3 people in the Mumble Channel. Phil and 2 other people. What game are they playing where it's 3v3 and they have to manually find opponents? #justsayin | ||
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Vadrigar
Bulgaria2379 Posts
On February 10 2012 05:47 MrCash wrote: Again, people still don't understand how this silly group stages go, this needs to go away. There is still a chance slivko and snute both have a better score than ret, even though slivko already lost to ret. Then it boils down to what is more important, map score or who beat who? If slivko goes 5-3 and Ret ends up 4-3, SHOULD slivko still go down? If so, why should he even try vs dakkon? If not, how the hell is that fair to Ret that he beat someone, but they advanced because he won vs Dakkon, he actually had no incentive to try either? Silly group system is silly. lol wut? If Snute beats Ret, Ret beat Slivko, Slivko beat Snute, how would you like that to be settled? The system isn't silly. People are. | ||
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Aela
97 Posts
I'll proably will watch SuperNova vs ZergX in the Grand Finals, but the 200 ZvZ before that .... NO! | ||
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Arc1
Poland849 Posts
On February 10 2012 05:49 FreudianTrip wrote: I've been watching the IEMs for a while now and I always have a problem with the 'Phil have you found us opponents yet?' ad. Theres only 3 people in the Mumble Channel. Phil and 2 other people. What game are they playing where it's 3v3 and they have to find opponents? #justsayin Bloodline Champions, or 3v3 in LoL. | ||
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FreudianTrip
Switzerland1983 Posts
Both have Match-making. | ||
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MrCash
United States1504 Posts
On February 10 2012 05:48 TheBB wrote: Eh, it's not hard to understand that mental arithmetic is hard in certain situations. I was on a national talk show in prime time (no foolin') and I managed to confuse myself over whether 10^18 was a billion billions or not. The confusion is that it is NOT based purely of map score. It's a 5 step process, which no one can ever remember. Who beat who, match score, set score, it matters who has more wins, win/lose ratio doesn't count, bark bark bark On February 10 2012 05:49 Vadrigar wrote: lol wut? If Snute beats Ret, Ret beat Slivko, Slivko beat Snute, how would you like that to be settled? The system isn't silly. People are. Again, who beat who alone doesn't seem to matter. That's how hero got knocked out at Kiev. | ||
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Devise
Canada1131 Posts
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Trentelshark
Canada385 Posts
On February 10 2012 05:49 FreudianTrip wrote: I've been watching the IEMs for a while now and I always have a problem with the 'Phil have you found us opponents yet?' ad. Theres only 3 people in the Mumble Channel. Phil and 2 other people. What game are they playing where it's 3v3 and they have to manually find opponents? #justsayin And yet the beginning of the ad is filled filled with so much promise...  | ||
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00Visor
4337 Posts
On February 10 2012 05:47 MrCash wrote: Again, people still don't understand how this silly group stages go, this needs to go away. There is still a chance slivko and snute both have a better score than ret, even though slivko already lost to ret. Then it boils down to what is more important, map score or who beat who? If slivko goes 5-3 and Ret ends up 4-3, SHOULD slivko still go down? If so, why should he even try vs dakkon? If not, how the hell is that fair to Ret that he beat someone, but they advanced because he won vs Dakkon, he actually had no incentive to try either? Silly group system is silly. tl;dr: Double elimination group stages ala GSL not silly at all if snute beats Ret its Snute > Ret > Slivko > Snute So every player beat another one, but one has to go down. Why is mapscore not fair then? | ||
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FreudianTrip
Switzerland1983 Posts
On February 10 2012 05:52 Trentelshark wrote: And yet the beginning of the ad is filled filled with so much promise... Im always fantasising about that dudes girlfriend for sure. | ||
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SASBC
Brazil101 Posts
On February 10 2012 05:13 SASBC wrote: I would like to do that. Just give a few minutes and I`ll pm you (I hope the admins don`t ban me before..). Now it`s only a matter to get the right post, won`t take too long. Done | ||
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HydraFucaZ
104 Posts
Groupstage Top 2 of each group advance to the playoffs. In StarCraft II the first ranked players of each group will face a random second ranked player from another group in the first round of the playoffs. In League of Legends and Counter-Strike the first ranked team of Group A will face the second ranked team of Group B and so on. If two or more players are tied by points and round/map difference after the groupstage the final ranking will be decided by ... 1. points among tied participants 2. map difference among tied participants 3. number of won maps among tied participants 4. overall map difference 5. overall number of won maps | ||
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MrCash
United States1504 Posts
On February 10 2012 05:53 00Visor wrote: not silly at all if snute beats Ret its Snute > Ret > Slivko > Snute So every player beat another one, but one has to go down. Why is mapscore not fair then? Because it's not Snute > Ret > Slivo > Snute, but rather Slivko > Ret because he beat Dakkon 2-0 who's results didn't matter anymore (even though Slivko might win 2-0 if he played earlier just as easily). Assuming Ret gets 2-0ed by Snute. | ||
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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Trentelshark
Canada385 Posts
On February 10 2012 05:53 FreudianTrip wrote: Im always fantasising about that dudes girlfriend for sure. ^^ Winner LOL! | ||
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
if he loses to snute 2-0 and slivko beats dakkon (which he should do) then ret is out and i dont even think that its very unlikely that snute beats ret... slivko outplayed in game 1 and in game 2 he was too indecisive with his spines but that was probably because he was nervous and the third game slivko was a bit too greedy vs ret's pretty all-in-ish push.. would have been happy about an upset and i really like slivko actually and i like snute as well so i actually hope that he beats ret and both of them move on eventhough i like ret as well thats the problem with zerg groups i realld dont know who to root for | ||
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Vadrigar
Bulgaria2379 Posts
On February 10 2012 05:52 MrCash wrote: The confusion is that it is NOT based purely of map score. It's a 5 step process, which no one can ever remember. Who beat who, match score, set score, it matters who has more wins, win/lose ratio doesn't count, bark bark bark Again, who beat who alone doesn't seem to matter. That's how hero got knocked out at Kiev. omfg... you're hopeless. It's a 3- WAY TIE. If 2 people are tied head to head is first. | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
On February 10 2012 05:55 MCDayC wrote: I wish all tournaments would adopt the group stage format GOM uses, its far better than the confusing mess that 99% of foreign tournaments use. ^This With GOM's format, there is no controversy, no three-way-ties, no mapscore or math to go by. It's straight-up, simple, and makes sense. | ||
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Tarotis
Germany1931 Posts
On February 10 2012 05:55 sVnteen wrote: why does liquipedia show that ret is already through? if he loses to snute 2-0 and slivko beats dakkon (which he should do) then ret is out and i dont even think that its very unlikely that snute beats ret... slivko outplayed in game 1 and in game 2 he was too indecisive with his spines but that was probably because he was nervous and the third game slivko was a bit too greedy vs ret's pretty all-in-ish push.. would have been happy about an upset and i really like slivko actually and i like snute as well so i actually hope that he beats ret and both of them move on eventhough i like ret as well thats the problem with zerg groups i realld dont know who to root for Liquipedia isnt always correct because everybody can edit it and people do make mistakes  | ||
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