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Paraiba
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil217 Posts
February 08 2012 20:55 GMT
#1441
At least it wasn't our (Brazilian people) fault this time.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
February 08 2012 20:55 GMT
#1442
On February 09 2012 05:49 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 05:46 RJGooner wrote:
On February 09 2012 05:45 Eurekastreet wrote:
On February 09 2012 05:41 Jakkerr wrote:
On February 09 2012 05:37 ZeromuS wrote:
On February 09 2012 05:36 kju wrote:
bunker salvage lost him the game


O.O oh man explain please i cant watch this sounds kind of intense.


Feast went 4gate blink stalker all in vs marauder expand from demu
He blinked passed the bunker and kiled a lot of stuff but demu was able to hold.
But then Demu overextended and his units got picked off while he salvaged his remaining bunker, he prolly was confident he held it.
After that Feast could just run in.


*3 gate blink stalkers

*And not all in since he expanded even though the first attack didn't kill demuslim.


He expanded because he did massive enough economic damage to where it evened up the game. If he hadn't killed 25 scv's the game would have been pretty over for him.

An all-in is NOT a bad thing and it's part of the game. Props to Feast for pulling it off but it was an all-in.


What Demuslim could have done to not lose 25 SCV ?

There were times where he could've microed better(such as scvs blocking the stalkers from entering the main, forcing them to blink and be easier to kill), but the 25 workers lost wasn't really the issue. When he pushed out and lost like 700 resources worth of unit for pretty much nothing _AND_ salvaging the bunker, that made him not able to hold his natural and lost a couple of more rines. After stim is done and when medivacs come out, he creams blink stalkers and zlots(without the losses he took, he'd have been able to push out faster, before chargelots)
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13426 Posts
February 08 2012 20:55 GMT
#1443
On February 09 2012 05:55 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 05:52 mTwTT1 wrote:
pls find that kid


and then?


Put his picture on reddit so the pitchforks can get pulled out obviously.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
February 08 2012 20:56 GMT
#1444
On February 09 2012 05:54 Mohdoo wrote:
LA community - You now have a duty to bring this man to justice.


LA and US servers have been merged for the last couple of months.

Shit like this happens, they handled it well.
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
February 08 2012 20:56 GMT
#1445
Man, that guy is seriously a douche. I can't believe people still do that. It must be so shitty having your special map build be ruined by something like that.

It's awesome though that DeMusliM and Feast are making the best of it. I hope this game continues on to be awesome. Go DeMusliM! Go Feast!
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
February 08 2012 20:56 GMT
#1446
On February 09 2012 05:51 RJGooner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 05:50 Eurekastreet wrote:
On February 09 2012 05:47 Jakkerr wrote:
On February 09 2012 05:45 Eurekastreet wrote:
On February 09 2012 05:41 Jakkerr wrote:
On February 09 2012 05:37 ZeromuS wrote:
On February 09 2012 05:36 kju wrote:
bunker salvage lost him the game


O.O oh man explain please i cant watch this sounds kind of intense.


Feast went 4gate blink stalker all in vs marauder expand from demu
He blinked passed the bunker and kiled a lot of stuff but demu was able to hold.
But then Demu overextended and his units got picked off while he salvaged his remaining bunker, he prolly was confident he held it.
After that Feast could just run in.


*3 gate blink stalkers

*And not all in since he expanded even though the first attack didn't kill demuslim.


hmm 3 gate then sure.
But it was an all in :p, Demuslim lost cuz he screwed up overextending otherwise he wouldn't have taken all that damage and just crushed Feast.
Anyway, I guess there is no point in discussing what could have happened etc, it's pretty pointless.


So it's all in if the opponent screws up, I keep on learning about the definition of all-in every day.


6-pool is about as all-in as it gets right? However, you can still expand and tech after 6 pooling a protoss if you kill enough of his probes. That doesn't make it NOT an all-in.


I thought all-in was 6 pool plus probes ? I don't see how all-inish can an all-in be if you have an easy way out of it (as feast did), not that I care much about semantics but I don't think at such a high level of play a gate blink stalkers is putting all your cards on the table...
"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
Flanq
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom2694 Posts
February 08 2012 20:56 GMT
#1447
On February 09 2012 05:54 ZasZ. wrote:
This is why tournaments require players to put themselves on busy...something like this happens it should be an automatic DQ. Would suck for Feast but that's the way it goes.

A DQ for feast would be ridiculous in this situation, he made a mistake and forgot something, he's prepping for a very important game, it's easy to overlook the details like busy settings, he owned up to it, asked demu what he wanted to do and they came to an agreement, about as fair as you can make it really.
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
February 08 2012 20:56 GMT
#1448
On February 09 2012 05:55 qbs wrote:
haha Rob drops the Blizz knowledge bombs : " can u change to busy during the gam ? " O.o


Most Blizzard employees have no real reason to use busy considering no one knows their accounts outside of friends and family.
Dandy_Moustachu
Profile Joined July 2010
France422 Posts
February 08 2012 20:56 GMT
#1449
On February 09 2012 05:53 mizU wrote:
SO MANNER :D


Ultra manner Feast would have give the win to Demu
Pif Paf Pouf
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
February 08 2012 20:56 GMT
#1450
On February 09 2012 05:53 mvtaylor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 05:51 mvtaylor wrote:
On February 09 2012 05:48 mvtaylor wrote:
On February 09 2012 05:46 mvtaylor wrote:
Game 2 on Shakuras Plateau

DeMusliM in the bottom left as the blue Terran
Feast in the top right as the red Protoss


DeMu opens 1 rax gasless FE
Feast goes 1 gate FE

DeMu adds 3 more rax and a tech lab to grab combat shields
Feast adds two more gates and a robo


Feast pauses the game with a "wtffff"


Feast doesn't put himself on busy and someone decided to whisper him with what demu is doing. They then just tell each other exactly what they have in game so they both know and.... my stream dies


My stream finally reloads and DeMu does a combat shield timing and kills all the sentries of Feast. Feast adds two forges and a third nexus while DeMu floats a CC over to his third.

Feast getting +1 / +1 and charge and templar archives.
Demu getting 1/1, has stim and conc shells, blindly making vikings...
@followMVT
Blueblister
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden321 Posts
February 08 2012 20:57 GMT
#1451
This is how you behave proffessionally, props to both of them!
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
February 08 2012 20:57 GMT
#1452
Yes, hosts should have ensured they were indeed on busy, but it all turned out ok, and it was really funny
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 20:58:00
February 08 2012 20:57 GMT
#1453
On February 09 2012 05:56 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 05:53 mizU wrote:
SO MANNER :D


Ultra manner Feast would have give the win to Demu
Beyond retarded Feast would do that. That's not being mannered, it's just being a full-on tool.
#freeshauni
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
February 08 2012 20:57 GMT
#1454
Demuslim overstims really often :/
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
February 08 2012 20:58 GMT
#1455
On February 09 2012 05:56 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 05:53 mizU wrote:
SO MANNER :D


Ultra manner Feast would have give the win to Demu


Ultra manner 16 guys at IEM Brazil would all forfeit and give me the prizemoney.
KNICK
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Germany248 Posts
February 08 2012 20:58 GMT
#1456
Props to both for handling this situation very calmly and mannered. And screw that guy whispering to Feast.
I close one eye, and I see half. I close both, and I see everything.
iAmBiGbiRd
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia1029 Posts
February 08 2012 20:58 GMT
#1457
No Rotti that would have been bad because then the Zealots would have had a full area to attack the bio
Hello friends:)
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
February 08 2012 20:58 GMT
#1458
On February 09 2012 05:56 mvtaylor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 05:53 mvtaylor wrote:
On February 09 2012 05:51 mvtaylor wrote:
On February 09 2012 05:48 mvtaylor wrote:
On February 09 2012 05:46 mvtaylor wrote:
Game 2 on Shakuras Plateau

DeMusliM in the bottom left as the blue Terran
Feast in the top right as the red Protoss


DeMu opens 1 rax gasless FE
Feast goes 1 gate FE

DeMu adds 3 more rax and a tech lab to grab combat shields
Feast adds two more gates and a robo


Feast pauses the game with a "wtffff"


Feast doesn't put himself on busy and someone decided to whisper him with what demu is doing. They then just tell each other exactly what they have in game so they both know and.... my stream dies


My stream finally reloads and DeMu does a combat shield timing and kills all the sentries of Feast. Feast adds two forges and a third nexus while DeMu floats a CC over to his third.

Feast getting +1 / +1 and charge and templar archives.
Demu getting 1/1, has stim and conc shells, blindly making vikings...


Feast getting Psi Storm, DeMu charges in to Feast's third and picks off a fair few units but doesn't manage to get the nexus down, loses all his army. 2/2 coming for both. DeMu ghost academy just finished as psi storm is already done.
@followMVT
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
February 08 2012 20:58 GMT
#1459
Gotta hand it to Feast for being honest.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 20:59:10
February 08 2012 20:58 GMT
#1460
On February 09 2012 05:58 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
No Rotti that would have been bad because then the Zealots would have had a full area to attack the bio

Would've still been a lot better, he could've fx. moved behind the mineral line

Edit: Or get it down closer and finish it with the last few units
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