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wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 22:58:37
February 02 2012 22:58 GMT
#41
On February 03 2012 02:51 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 02:38 Empire.Beastyqt wrote:
On February 03 2012 02:35 00Visor wrote:
On February 03 2012 01:48 Poopi wrote:
Since it's cross-server Empire may have a chance.
I just hope that Prime will win, but cross-server results are always disappointing

It`s played on NA. Eastern Europe may have even worse latency than Korea sometimes.


When I said it (somewhere) people thought im saying that EU > NA is worse than KR > NA, I didnt mean that, but that east EU > NA got worse lag than KR > NA and this was tested when Kas and me were at WCG.

But saying Empire might have a chance because of that is funny since we lag more

I didn't say it like whoever lags the most will Be the most likely team to win, rather since there is lag for both the outcome can be kinda random. And depending of the teamhouse the lag isn't the same for koreans, so it's hard to figure how much somebody from KR lag.


Yea, it depends on internet connection and day to day too. And more importantly IMO, play style because some players tend to do builds that are so damn more micro-intensive sometimes.
Gameplay > Personality
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
February 02 2012 23:06 GMT
#42
On February 02 2012 23:34 turamn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 23:31 Talin wrote:
There's somebody called GhostKingPrime?

I want to watch him play. xD


It is Byun.

Also -- WTF Empire was actually leading the poll? People are really starting to get delusional.

Have you seen Kas, Beasty or viOLet play? Plus, I'm assuming that these games were played on NA or EU, which means that the connection to KR will favor Empire. Prime is certainly favored, but you're not delusional if you think that Empire has a chance. viOLet is more than capable of taking out a few Prime guys as is Kas. Beasty, Welmu, and Happy all have a game in them if the build orders/spawns go their way. I'm hoping for a 5-4 victory for Empire with Kas winning the ace match.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
February 02 2012 23:08 GMT
#43
On February 03 2012 07:29 IGNProLeague wrote:
Tonight we'll be doing something slightly different for the broadcast! CatsPajamas, Doa, and our Operations Manager Frank Fields will be going on an hour early (4 p.m. PST / 7 p.m. EST) to do a general discussion about some SC2 current events, as well as to unveil a new feature/application of IGN Pro League! Go to http://www.ign.com/ipl in about 90 minutes to see what it's all about!



Doh! Gonna still be at work
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 02 2012 23:38 GMT
#44
On February 03 2012 08:06 The Final Boss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 23:34 turamn wrote:
On February 02 2012 23:31 Talin wrote:
There's somebody called GhostKingPrime?

I want to watch him play. xD


It is Byun.

Also -- WTF Empire was actually leading the poll? People are really starting to get delusional.

Have you seen Kas, Beasty or viOLet play? Plus, I'm assuming that these games were played on NA or EU, which means that the connection to KR will favor Empire. Prime is certainly favored, but you're not delusional if you think that Empire has a chance. viOLet is more than capable of taking out a few Prime guys as is Kas. Beasty, Welmu, and Happy all have a game in them if the build orders/spawns go their way. I'm hoping for a 5-4 victory for Empire with Kas winning the ace match.


Empire has a chance to win, but looking at the past results, the Korean teams have simply overwhelmed the foreign teams through their depth (Last night was essentially Liquid vs Col, not col-MVP, and we saw how that went when col-MVP did not deploy the Koreans, ouch).

Empire lacks the depth to finish the entire Bo9. They have strong players, but do they have 5 strong players that can consistently take games off of the Koreans? I am not so sure. MKP is a strong player, but CreatorPrime and BBoongBBoongPrime are also very strong in the team leagues, and just look at Prime's listed roster. It's huge and full of talent and snipers.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
February 02 2012 23:38 GMT
#45
I really hope they up their game with the casting tonight. Last time was just downright sad, and either painuser was sick or he was on something.
loliologist
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7 Posts
February 02 2012 23:39 GMT
#46
I honestly don't expect MKP to do all that well, or even end up playing.

However, I have to give Prime the edge because of Creator and c0re, since Empire doesn't have any depth in protoss and thus lacks strong protoss practice partners. I wouldn't be surprised if either Creator or c0re win 2+ games, especially since both have strong T, and to a less extent Z, practice partners. Also, it doesn't hurt that protoss is performing strong again terran since the emp nerf.

Anyways, I think Prime will take it 5-3 (with 4 of the wins from protoss players).

McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
February 02 2012 23:51 GMT
#47
On February 03 2012 08:38 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 08:06 The Final Boss wrote:
On February 02 2012 23:34 turamn wrote:
On February 02 2012 23:31 Talin wrote:
There's somebody called GhostKingPrime?

I want to watch him play. xD


It is Byun.

Also -- WTF Empire was actually leading the poll? People are really starting to get delusional.

Have you seen Kas, Beasty or viOLet play? Plus, I'm assuming that these games were played on NA or EU, which means that the connection to KR will favor Empire. Prime is certainly favored, but you're not delusional if you think that Empire has a chance. viOLet is more than capable of taking out a few Prime guys as is Kas. Beasty, Welmu, and Happy all have a game in them if the build orders/spawns go their way. I'm hoping for a 5-4 victory for Empire with Kas winning the ace match.


Empire has a chance to win, but looking at the past results, the Korean teams have simply overwhelmed the foreign teams through their depth (Last night was essentially Liquid vs Col, not col-MVP, and we saw how that went when col-MVP did not deploy the Koreans, ouch).

Empire lacks the depth to finish the entire Bo9. They have strong players, but do they have 5 strong players that can consistently take games off of the Koreans? I am not so sure. MKP is a strong player, but CreatorPrime and BBoongBBoongPrime are also very strong in the team leagues, and just look at Prime's listed roster. It's huge and full of talent and snipers.

Well if Prime sends out some of their weak players (Korean teams have a precadence for doing this) then Empire has a chance. I do feel like Empire and Prime are pretty similiar in their respective scenes. They are both teams that are often overlooked but manage to be a force to be reckoned with. But yeah, Prime is still really favored.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4553 Posts
February 02 2012 23:58 GMT
#48
I have faith in Empire.

Can't wait to see violet in action again, and of course the amazing empire terrans!

Though I don't see how they will get past Creator..
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
February 03 2012 00:06 GMT
#49
Hmm scanner sweep or MLG online qualifiers till TAC? Tough call... goin MLG
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
February 03 2012 01:14 GMT
#50
core vs beasty, good opening match.
Stealth.
Profile Joined October 2011
United States115 Posts
February 03 2012 01:15 GMT
#51
Oh how i missed you DOA and CatsPajamas <3
vileStealth - TeamVile.net - VileGaming.com
rOse_PedaL
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Korea (South)450 Posts
February 03 2012 01:23 GMT
#52
MKP ALL KILL ANYONE?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ MKP HWAITING ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
February 03 2012 01:25 GMT
#53
On February 03 2012 10:23 rOse_PedaL wrote:
MKP ALL KILL ANYONE?


I doubt that MKP can all kill Empire, Kas and ViOlet both have winning records against him iirc gogo Empire!
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 03 2012 01:25 GMT
#54
ugh, you can see the lag for beasty
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 03 2012 01:26 GMT
#55
Great building placement to create walls for the zealots.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 01:32:30
February 03 2012 01:27 GMT
#56
sometimes i ask myself if the caster ever played this game.

-say ghost push shoudl wait 3 min.
-ask why protoss atack when hes total commited to allin allready
-question a upgrade not done when you atack oO
-wonder that a 3 comes late after a ghost push that killed many worker ... and so on and so on

Its one point to do mistake in casting and dont understand the builds and whats going on,
but question obvious good moves from pros and act like you know better is really strange.
Save gaming: kill esport
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 03 2012 01:30 GMT
#57
Yeah Beasty! Great TvP
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
February 03 2012 01:31 GMT
#58
Nicely done, gogo Beasty ^^, ooooooh calm, he has his work cut out for him >.> ofc calm's gonna come out LOL
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
February 03 2012 01:32 GMT
#59
Woohoo, beasty!

Going to have a hard time on Calm Before the Storm, though.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
February 03 2012 01:32 GMT
#60
i definitely expecting MKP,BBoongBBoong and Creator in this match.

Empire is reallllllllly strong.
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