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OutofmymindSC2
Profile Joined January 2012
Bulgaria80 Posts
February 01 2012 02:23 GMT
#361
I've never seen HuK play for EG....why is that?
Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
February 01 2012 02:23 GMT
#362
On February 01 2012 11:21 Dexington wrote:
Machine lol so Huk isn't playing.


who is the last player of eg?
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
February 01 2012 02:23 GMT
#363
On February 01 2012 11:23 Strela wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 11:21 Dexington wrote:
Machine lol so Huk isn't playing.


who is the last player of eg?


JYP
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
February 01 2012 02:24 GMT
#364
On February 01 2012 11:23 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 11:23 Strela wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:21 Dexington wrote:
Machine lol so Huk isn't playing.


who is the last player of eg?


JYP


For sure.
Rabbet
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada404 Posts
February 01 2012 02:24 GMT
#365
ForGG should have all killed these scrubs.
jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
February 01 2012 02:24 GMT
#366
On February 01 2012 11:04 mvtaylor wrote:
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On February 01 2012 11:01 SC2NeCro wrote:
On February 01 2012 10:59 mvtaylor wrote:
On February 01 2012 10:53 SC2NeCro wrote:
On February 01 2012 10:52 blade55555 wrote:
On February 01 2012 10:51 SC2NeCro wrote:
On February 01 2012 10:49 blade55555 wrote:
On February 01 2012 10:47 SC2NeCro wrote:
On February 01 2012 10:45 blade55555 wrote:
On February 01 2012 10:44 kubiks wrote:
[quote]

It's not a matter of if the game was over or not, but it's a teamleague, not a single player series. Stay just to make illusion tired is worth the shot, and with good control he could have won maybe


He could have tried tiring him out sure wouldn't have worked due to how much koreans play anyway but no he could not have won maybe. He had 0 chance unless illusion went AFK. That turtle style he was doing with mass tanks + ghosts and idra having ultra's trust me it gets raped really really really really really badly and idra just getting his 4'th when his terran opponent had been on a 4'th like forever.

Let alone him making 3 more CC's. If idra came back it would be because zerg is OP (which their not) or he is hacking (which he's not)


If he's going to turtle IdrA would have had time to bank resources and tech switch to Blords right away after getting rid of Ultras.

Saying he had no chance is pure ignorance.


I guess you don't realize how good ghosts are vs broodlords and ultra's. The fact you don't know what you are talking about shows when you think broodlords (with his limited 3 base gas after having a ton of ultra's out so he would have had 5 broodlords maybe) that you don't know zvt late game very well especially vs a terran of illusions caliber.

On February 01 2012 10:48 kubiks wrote:
On February 01 2012 10:45 blade55555 wrote:
On February 01 2012 10:44 kubiks wrote:
[quote]

It's not a matter of if the game was over or not, but it's a teamleague, not a single player series. Stay just to make illusion tired is worth the shot, and with good control he could have won maybe


He could have tried tiring him out sure wouldn't have worked due to how much koreans play anyway but no he could not have won maybe. He had 0 chance unless illusion went AFK. That turtle style he was doing with mass tanks + ghosts and idra having ultra's trust me it gets raped really really really really really badly.


Actually I think I saw a dimaga vs empireHappy with Happy going for tank/ghost, and dimaga still going ultra and win (after a 1h++ game :D).
But obviously you want to have zerling/baneling (maybe more than ultras) with it, and engage properly the ennemy army. Not sure Irda is capable of that :D.



I imagine if Dimaga won that he also wasn't down bases for the whole game am I correct in that?


IdrA had already secured a 4th by the time he GG'd. Broodlords are THE end game unit vs Terran. That's why you have Queen+Infestor support which he already had, it would have been a proper switch.

You are ignorant and clueless. You need to stop talking now.

I am NOT defending IdrA.


lol... Sigh again you showed me you have no idea how tvz works in the late game when the terran is actually good. ^^


Troll more? If you want to show me how it's done then go ahead. Problem is you aren't backing up anything and have been wrong so far in what you say (he had a 4th).

People who keep arguing because their ego is hurt are annoying.


IdrA had ONLY just got his fourth up, illusion was already getting extra OC's to start killing workers for supply and was getting ghosts.

Along with his main force in the centre able to do nothing about the tanks and planetary fortress he was about to be reset to hatch tech by the triple drop just arriving in his main. EVEN if he had miraculously defended it and SOMEHOW got a greater spire out there would have been enough ghosts to EMP every queen and infestor with enough energy left to then snipe every brood lord out of the sky.

Could IdrA have kept playing? Yes
Should IdrA have kept playing for the team to tire illusion out a bit mentally? Yes
Should IdrA have kept playing to allow the viewers a massive engagement and to get to see things blow up? Yes

Could IdrA have won that game? 99.9% No


IdrA WAS behind. The point of my post was to show that he had a chance, however small (99.9% that's ridiculous, stop throwing out statistics please), not to show how he could win the game confidently. I don't like that he gave up and GG'd, that's what I'm defending.


What realistic chance?!

When you have only just built your fourth and haven't even begun mining from it yet, are about to lose all your tech in the main while your army in the centre on the map can't attack his army while he is also about to start saccing workers and is already producing ghosts what can you do as zerg?

Even if somehow magically the drop from illusion got cleared up without major loss he could have instantly remaxed, took the centre tower and cut IdrA off from his fourth, killed it and starved him.


There is always a chance because this is not a game that you play by yourself. There isn't such a thing as 100% guarantee.
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
February 01 2012 02:24 GMT
#367
On February 01 2012 11:21 Dexington wrote:
Machine lol so Huk isn't playing.



Maybe something is going on with HuK. not playing in this, staying at the oGs house, little to no interaction with EG players... hmmm.... drama inc?
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
February 01 2012 02:24 GMT
#368
Anyways...this is going to be a stomp lol.
NipponBanzai
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada518 Posts
February 01 2012 02:25 GMT
#369
On February 01 2012 11:22 Olinimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 11:18 dragonborn wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:15 Olinimm wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:13 dragonborn wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:11 Olinimm wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:10 dragonborn wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:03 McFeser wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:00 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
On February 01 2012 10:50 Olinimm wrote:
On February 01 2012 10:49 zefreak wrote:
EG has no chance with ForGG, Supernova, Nada and Inca for JP

why use inca against JYP? JYP has pretty good vP, whereas any terran on oGs will rape his face.

While I agree, Inca's PvP is one of the best in the world.

It's top three. It's between either MC or Oz, but JYP is not slouch in vP either. It'd be interesting to see how it would stack up against Inca, especially when JYP hasnt faced a protoss of Inca's caliber.

JYP vs MC was very close match in HomeStoryCup.

its between Oz,InCa and Inori.


MC has positive records vs both Inca and inori. In fact he is like 5-2 vs inori. Inori beat him just that one time, MC is a better pvper overall. MC and Oz have the best pvp.

PvP is MC's worst match up...

Oz,InCa and Inori definitely better than MC at PvP.

How is inori better at PvP than MC? He is 2-8 in PvP and lost to MC like 3 times. MC also has basically the same win % as Inca but has more games than Inca and beat him. Inori is so overrated at that matchup it's not even funny.

tlpd records isnt everything. FXOz %41 against Terran but i can say his PvT is top 3 in Korea.

also you should look latest tournaments MC played,he always out of tournament because of PvP.

Even if you disregard the fact MC has an insane winrate, Inori is still immensely overrated in PvP. He beat MC once, every other time MC owned him. And his stats are fucking awful.


Honestly, you are right if you think about it for the past year, inoris stats are bad. The past three months though, I see him wreck protoss. Doesn't really matter who they are. I think his pvp is really top notch lately.
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
February 01 2012 02:25 GMT
#370
Machine comes in and kills every OGS member.... MIND =BLOWN!!!!!!

on a real note... who do you cheer for when your favorite teams are playing against eachother?
No Artosis, you are robin
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
February 01 2012 02:25 GMT
#371
lol eg machine for the ace.
expect rape
can i get my estro logo back pls
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 02:26:10
February 01 2012 02:25 GMT
#372
On February 01 2012 11:22 Olinimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 11:18 dragonborn wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:15 Olinimm wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:13 dragonborn wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:11 Olinimm wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:10 dragonborn wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:03 McFeser wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:00 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
On February 01 2012 10:50 Olinimm wrote:
On February 01 2012 10:49 zefreak wrote:
EG has no chance with ForGG, Supernova, Nada and Inca for JP

why use inca against JYP? JYP has pretty good vP, whereas any terran on oGs will rape his face.

While I agree, Inca's PvP is one of the best in the world.

It's top three. It's between either MC or Oz, but JYP is not slouch in vP either. It'd be interesting to see how it would stack up against Inca, especially when JYP hasnt faced a protoss of Inca's caliber.

JYP vs MC was very close match in HomeStoryCup.

its between Oz,InCa and Inori.


MC has positive records vs both Inca and inori. In fact he is like 5-2 vs inori. Inori beat him just that one time, MC is a better pvper overall. MC and Oz have the best pvp.

PvP is MC's worst match up...

Oz,InCa and Inori definitely better than MC at PvP.

How is inori better at PvP than MC? He is 2-8 in PvP and lost to MC like 3 times. MC also has basically the same win % as Inca but has more games than Inca and beat him. Inori is so overrated at that matchup it's not even funny.

tlpd records isnt everything. FXOz %41 against Terran but i can say his PvT is top 3 in Korea.

also you should look latest tournaments MC played,he always out of tournament because of PvP.

Even if you disregard the fact MC has an insane winrate, Inori is still immensely overrated in PvP. He beat MC once, every other time MC owned him. And his stats are fucking awful.

Inori has beaten HerO, HuK, Sase, and Puzzle multiple times. He seriously only sucks in GSL for some unknown reason, but roflstomps all other Protosses in foreign tournaments. It helps that he's got that insane 3gate pressure build that gets more units than a regular 4gate...
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
February 01 2012 02:25 GMT
#373
On February 01 2012 11:23 iGswOrd wrote:
I've never seen HuK play for EG....why is that?


Huk played for them in the EGMC. My guess is that because he recently went on vacation, these games were played during that time period.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
SC2NeCro
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada507 Posts
February 01 2012 02:25 GMT
#374
Lmao Machine?

This is over.
Fav Terran: forGG, aLive, Jinro ||| Fav Zerg: Moon, TLO, DRG ||| Fav Protoss: Genius, Grubby, ToD
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
February 01 2012 02:26 GMT
#375
On February 01 2012 11:24 magnaflow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 11:21 Dexington wrote:
Machine lol so Huk isn't playing.



Maybe something is going on with HuK. not playing in this, staying at the oGs house, little to no interaction with EG players... hmmm.... drama inc?


Staying at the the oGs house?! That is interesting... Source?
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
February 01 2012 02:26 GMT
#376
On February 01 2012 11:25 aRyuujin wrote:
lol eg machine for the ace.
expect rape


He's not the last player. Its a bo9 so there is 1 more player after machine.
When I think of something else, something will go here
PeaCeR
Profile Joined June 2011
57 Posts
February 01 2012 02:26 GMT
#377
This game gonna be very very painful t watch.
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
February 01 2012 02:26 GMT
#378
Machine? Really? Are they trying to lose? May as well throw out Incontrol next.
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
February 01 2012 02:26 GMT
#379
STC giving machine a chance in a billion by not rallying his scv.
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 02:27:09
February 01 2012 02:26 GMT
#380
Wait wtf...
Machine...?
Why not Huk or JYP?
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
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