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[NASTL] Mouz vs Liquid

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NASL.tv
Profile Joined April 2011
699 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 03:50:47
January 29 2012 02:43 GMT
#1
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North American Star Team League
(Wiki)North American Star Team League
Week 2 Day 4


Date: Monday, Jan 30 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

EU Rebroadcast: Monday, Jan 30 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)


Watch It Live!




Format
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- Best of 5
-- 4 BO1 1v1s
-- If tied after all 4 games there is a BO3 Ace Match
- Players are picked before the match is started and picked based on the given map
- 7 Week Season
- Top 4 are seeded into Playoffs



Full Schedule
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http://nasl.tv/News/Article/20120113nasl-team-league-schedule




Map Pool
The Shattered Temple
TPW Artifice
ESV Ohana
TPW Damage Inc
TPW Odyssey
NASL Antiga Shipyard
GSL Daybreak
Bel'Shir Beach Winter
Tal'Darim Altar





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Mouz (1-0) vs Liquid (1-0)


Match 1

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[image loading] (Z)biGs < TPW Artifice > [image loading] (Z)Sheth
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[image loading] (Z)biGs < TPW Artifice > [image loading] (Z)Sheth




Match 2

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[image loading] (P)MaNa < Tal'Darim Altar > [image loading] (Z)Zenio
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[image loading] (P)MaNa < Tal'Darim Altar > [image loading] (Z)Zenio




Match 3

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[image loading] (T)MorroW < Bel'Shir Beach Winter > [image loading] (Z)Ret
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[image loading] (T)MorroW < Bel'Shir Beach Winter > [image loading] (Z)Ret





Match 4

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[image loading] (T)ThorZaIN < Antiga Shipyard > [image loading] (P)HerO
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[image loading] (T)ThorZaIN < Antiga Shipyard > [image loading] (P)HerO




Ace Match (If Applicable)

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(T)ThorZaIN < ESV Ohana RE > (Z)Ret
(T)ThorZaIN < Loser's Pick > (Z)Ret
(T)ThorZaIN < Loser's Pick > (Z)Ret (If needed)
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(T)ThorZaIN < ESV Ohana RE > (Z)Ret
(T)ThorZaIN < Antiga Shipyard > (Z)Ret
(T)ThorZaIN < Bel'Shir Beach Winter > (Z)Ret

(T)ThorZaIN 1-2 (Z)Ret



Final Results

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[image loading] (Z)biGs < TPW Artifice > [image loading] (Z)Sheth
[image loading] (P)MaNa < Tal'Darim Altar > [image loading] (Z)Zenio
[image loading] (T)MorroW < Bel'Shir Beach Winter > [image loading] (Z)Ret
[image loading] (T)ThorZaIN < Antiga Shipyard > [image loading] (P)HerO
Ace Match
(T)ThorZaIN < ESV Ohana RE > (Z)Ret
(T)ThorZaIN < Antiga Shipyard > (Z)Ret
(T)ThorZaIN < Bel'Shir Beach Winter > (Z)Ret

mouz 2-3 Liquid




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fineshed
Profile Joined April 2011
43 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 03:06:51
January 29 2012 03:06 GMT
#2
probably some of the closest and most potentially exciting matchups i've ever seen
KicKDoG
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden765 Posts
January 29 2012 03:10 GMT
#3
This will be just great !!! Thorzain vs HerO will be epic for sure
http://www.twitter.com/KicKDoG_LoL baylife plox?
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
January 29 2012 03:11 GMT
#4
Does Morrow still TvZ?

Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
January 29 2012 03:13 GMT
#5
TL got some good matchups, but still looks like this is going to ace
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Hulavuta
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1252 Posts
January 29 2012 03:16 GMT
#6
On January 29 2012 12:11 Talin wrote:
Does Morrow still TvZ?



Yeah he does, I think whoever wrote up the post just forgot to do it.
Done with Team Liquid for a while. Don't expect to find me here.
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 03:32:12
January 29 2012 03:16 GMT
#7
(Z)biGs < (Z)Sheth
(P)MaNa > (Z)Zenio
(Z)MorroW < (Z)Ret
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If MorroW gets to play Terran then I would favor him over Ret. Even though Bel'Shir is good for Zerg, I think that as a fairly small two player map it also favors Terrans who are exceedingly aggressive early game (11/11 Rax is ridiculously strong on that map) and Ret is notoriously bad at defending early game aggression. 3-1 if he plays T

(T)ThorZaIN > (P)HerO
ACE:(P)MaNa > (P)HerO

Mouz 3-2


Ironically, I think that ThorZaIN and MaNa have the best shot at winning their matches despite being up against tougher opposition. Plus, the fact that HerO and Zenio will have to deal with the lag from Korea, I think that ThorZaIN and MaNa have a good chance at winning. Basically Liquid got the best match-ups possible for them, but I still don't know if it will be enough. I will be really interested who Liquid will play for their ace if it gets that far, though.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
January 29 2012 03:18 GMT
#8
MorroW vs Ret and ThorZaIN vs HerO will be awesome
courtpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
866 Posts
January 29 2012 03:20 GMT
#9
ZvZ, PvZ, TvZ, TvP? only 1 mirror and 1 of each matchup with 2 of the best foreign teams? is this real life?
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 29 2012 03:23 GMT
#10
Liquid has the definite edge in the series.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
BrassMonkey27
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada616 Posts
January 29 2012 03:23 GMT
#11
On January 29 2012 12:20 courtpanda wrote:
ZvZ, PvZ, TvZ, TvP? only 1 mirror and 1 of each matchup with 2 of the best foreign teams? is this real life?


Huh? There are two ZvZs, between BiGs/Sheth and Ret/MorroW.
HoneyBadger.784 Diamond KR "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
January 29 2012 03:26 GMT
#12
On January 29 2012 12:23 BrassMonkey27 wrote:
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On January 29 2012 12:20 courtpanda wrote:
ZvZ, PvZ, TvZ, TvP? only 1 mirror and 1 of each matchup with 2 of the best foreign teams? is this real life?


Huh? There are two ZvZs, between BiGs/Sheth and Ret/MorroW.

MorroW TvZs
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
BrassMonkey27
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada616 Posts
January 29 2012 03:27 GMT
#13
On January 29 2012 12:26 Pokebunny wrote:
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On January 29 2012 12:23 BrassMonkey27 wrote:
On January 29 2012 12:20 courtpanda wrote:
ZvZ, PvZ, TvZ, TvP? only 1 mirror and 1 of each matchup with 2 of the best foreign teams? is this real life?


Huh? There are two ZvZs, between BiGs/Sheth and Ret/MorroW.

MorroW TvZs



Riiight I forgot about that. Going to be some sick matches.
HoneyBadger.784 Diamond KR "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
smallTalk
Profile Joined January 2012
Brazil1 Post
January 29 2012 03:31 GMT
#14
On January 29 2012 12:26 Pokebunny wrote:
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On January 29 2012 12:23 BrassMonkey27 wrote:
On January 29 2012 12:20 courtpanda wrote:
ZvZ, PvZ, TvZ, TvP? only 1 mirror and 1 of each matchup with 2 of the best foreign teams? is this real life?


Huh? There are two ZvZs, between BiGs/Sheth and Ret/MorroW.

MorroW TvZs


Though, since teams send their players without knowing which player the other team is sending, maybe MorroW 'has' to ZvZ too. I didn't read the NASTL rules though, but that's what I'm thinking.
neo_sporin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States516 Posts
January 29 2012 03:38 GMT
#15
TL bringing out the zerg, SWARM HWAITING!!!
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
January 29 2012 03:49 GMT
#16
biGs > Sheth

biGs may be able to beat Sheth and I actually think he will. He did beat Snute in the qualifiers for IEM Sao Paulo which is pretty impressive and beat LiveZerg already in this tournament.

MaNa > Zenio

Sure, Zenio beat Naniwa at Kiev. Naniwa also hasn't beat a Zerg in ages. But he also barely beat NightEnd. I think Mana's PvZ is better than both those players. This could be a very close match though.

MorroW < Ret

Doesn't really matter what race Morrow has to play. Pretty sure this is his worst matchup, so Ret should take it fairly easily.

ThorZaIN > HerO

Hero's been slumping at LANs and now he'll have lag to deal with too, while Thorzain is an absolute beast in team leagues.

3-1 Mouz.



"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Hulavuta
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1252 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 03:54:49
January 29 2012 03:52 GMT
#17
On January 29 2012 12:31 smallTalk wrote:
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On January 29 2012 12:26 Pokebunny wrote:
On January 29 2012 12:23 BrassMonkey27 wrote:
On January 29 2012 12:20 courtpanda wrote:
ZvZ, PvZ, TvZ, TvP? only 1 mirror and 1 of each matchup with 2 of the best foreign teams? is this real life?


Huh? There are two ZvZs, between BiGs/Sheth and Ret/MorroW.

MorroW TvZs


Though, since teams send their players without knowing which player the other team is sending, maybe MorroW 'has' to ZvZ too. I didn't read the NASTL rules though, but that's what I'm thinking.


It's not like MorroW decides whether or not to play Terran or Zerg versus zerg. He ALWAYS plays Terran vs Zerg, unless the rules are against it. It's one of his "three" matchups.

It's like if they put in a fulltime zerg. The match will have to be ZvZ. But putting MorroW in, he's gonna be TvZ, Terran is his "zerg" in that matchup. It's just what he always does. So I don't think it breaks any special team rules.


I don't think it will break any general rules either, as they did allow him to be terran when he faced off against IdrA in Season 2.
Done with Team Liquid for a while. Don't expect to find me here.
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
January 29 2012 03:53 GMT
#18
This could definitely go either way. I could see 4-0 for either team but an ace match seems likely.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
JagerGard
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden135 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 04:00:58
January 29 2012 03:57 GMT
#19
Hmm, ThorZaIN will probably win vs HerO if he multi-tasks correctly and micros well. However, HerO can maybe catch ThorZaIN off-guard with a proxy 2 gate or 4 gate. I give ThorZaIN the advantage though, 65% - 35%.

EDIT: Also, Ret > MorroW, Ret pretty good at ZvT.
Sheth > biGs, unless biGs can find a chink in the armor of the Manner Bear, then he might win.
MaNa > Zenio, mostly delay, but MaNa really, really intelligent play lately. (save vs Destiny)

SlayerSThorZaIN F I G H T I N G ! | A BIRD IN THE HAND IS WORTH 2 IN THE BUSH!
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
January 29 2012 04:00 GMT
#20
Sheth>biGs
Zenio<Mana
Ret<Morrow
Hero<ThorZaIN

3-1 Mouz
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