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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
January 20 2012 00:49 GMT
#2781
On January 20 2012 08:43 scur2d2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 06:28 Naniwa wrote:
On January 20 2012 06:25 aidosae wrote:
I'm actually quite disappointed after that day:
First of all there were many problems with the games, therefore the drama
about Naniwa began. Just don't know why Naniwa can play the games versus WhiteRa
and Titan after forfeiting his spot in the Tournament.
I don't know what I should think about this... and Naniwa played quite disappointing,
not the mechanics but in fact that he was using every single game in his PvPs the
2 Gate Blink aggression. Of course it worked out very well but it was a bit boring to watch
in my opinion.


i play to win not for your entertainment

'

ignorant post.

without "entertaining" us, you wouldnt have a job.


Ignorant post. The onus is on the game developer not the players to make sure that winning gameplay and entertaining gameplay are not mutually exclusive.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
January 20 2012 00:52 GMT
#2782
Kas is just so strong...
¯\_(シ)_/¯
LION`
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden19 Posts
January 20 2012 01:07 GMT
#2783
Kas you fucking boss. Keep it going. Is nani gonna keep playing by the way?
trust your instincts!
Dayvx
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden92 Posts
January 20 2012 01:17 GMT
#2784
On January 20 2012 06:28 Naniwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 06:25 aidosae wrote:
I'm actually quite disappointed after that day:
First of all there were many problems with the games, therefore the drama
about Naniwa began. Just don't know why Naniwa can play the games versus WhiteRa
and Titan after forfeiting his spot in the Tournament.
I don't know what I should think about this... and Naniwa played quite disappointing,
not the mechanics but in fact that he was using every single game in his PvPs the
2 Gate Blink aggression. Of course it worked out very well but it was a bit boring to watch
in my opinion.


i play to win not for your entertainment


Ofc you'll win. Crush them Nani!
LoNeLyTrOoPeR
Profile Joined June 2011
United States32 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 01:35:09
January 20 2012 01:34 GMT
#2785
On January 20 2012 06:28 Naniwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 06:25 aidosae wrote:
I'm actually quite disappointed after that day:
First of all there were many problems with the games, therefore the drama
about Naniwa began. Just don't know why Naniwa can play the games versus WhiteRa
and Titan after forfeiting his spot in the Tournament.
I don't know what I should think about this... and Naniwa played quite disappointing,
not the mechanics but in fact that he was using every single game in his PvPs the
2 Gate Blink aggression. Of course it worked out very well but it was a bit boring to watch
in my opinion.


i play to win not for your entertainment


Well unfortunately if you don't entertain us this thing called e-sports would simply die
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
January 20 2012 01:36 GMT
#2786
On January 20 2012 10:34 LoNeLyTrOoPeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 06:28 Naniwa wrote:
On January 20 2012 06:25 aidosae wrote:
I'm actually quite disappointed after that day:
First of all there were many problems with the games, therefore the drama
about Naniwa began. Just don't know why Naniwa can play the games versus WhiteRa
and Titan after forfeiting his spot in the Tournament.
I don't know what I should think about this... and Naniwa played quite disappointing,
not the mechanics but in fact that he was using every single game in his PvPs the
2 Gate Blink aggression. Of course it worked out very well but it was a bit boring to watch
in my opinion.


i play to win not for your entertainment


Well unfortunately if you don't entertain us this thing called e-sports would simply die


Probe rushing isn't pure entertainment? :p
Pokemon Master
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
January 20 2012 01:38 GMT
#2787
On January 20 2012 10:34 LoNeLyTrOoPeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 06:28 Naniwa wrote:
On January 20 2012 06:25 aidosae wrote:
I'm actually quite disappointed after that day:
First of all there were many problems with the games, therefore the drama
about Naniwa began. Just don't know why Naniwa can play the games versus WhiteRa
and Titan after forfeiting his spot in the Tournament.
I don't know what I should think about this... and Naniwa played quite disappointing,
not the mechanics but in fact that he was using every single game in his PvPs the
2 Gate Blink aggression. Of course it worked out very well but it was a bit boring to watch
in my opinion.


i play to win not for your entertainment


Well unfortunately if you don't entertain us this thing called e-sports would simply die
Stop acting as if he has to please you. Anyone who thinks for a while realises that.
#freeshauni
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
January 20 2012 01:40 GMT
#2788
On January 20 2012 10:34 LoNeLyTrOoPeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 06:28 Naniwa wrote:
On January 20 2012 06:25 aidosae wrote:
I'm actually quite disappointed after that day:
First of all there were many problems with the games, therefore the drama
about Naniwa began. Just don't know why Naniwa can play the games versus WhiteRa
and Titan after forfeiting his spot in the Tournament.
I don't know what I should think about this... and Naniwa played quite disappointing,
not the mechanics but in fact that he was using every single game in his PvPs the
2 Gate Blink aggression. Of course it worked out very well but it was a bit boring to watch
in my opinion.


i play to win not for your entertainment


Well unfortunately if you don't entertain us this thing called e-sports would simply die


Entertainment can be obtained in quite a lot of different ways, I myself find it entertaining when Naniwa crushes other players
Jaedong & Faker
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 01:51:48
January 20 2012 01:43 GMT
#2789
edit: oops, nevermind probably a PBU I'm responding to anyway.



Anyway on another topic, so Zenio didn't want to regame after all? Well I guess after he was dominated so easily by Kas he was keen to keep every game he won after. Tough decision whether to replay the whole bo3 or just the final game eh? ... erm I doubt even Sheth would choose the whole bo3, then again, he probably would ♥
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
January 20 2012 01:54 GMT
#2790
On January 20 2012 10:07 LION` wrote:
Kas you fucking boss. Keep it going. Is nani gonna keep playing by the way?

Yes he is.
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
January 20 2012 01:56 GMT
#2791
On January 20 2012 10:36 Seiniyta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 10:34 LoNeLyTrOoPeR wrote:
On January 20 2012 06:28 Naniwa wrote:
On January 20 2012 06:25 aidosae wrote:
I'm actually quite disappointed after that day:
First of all there were many problems with the games, therefore the drama
about Naniwa began. Just don't know why Naniwa can play the games versus WhiteRa
and Titan after forfeiting his spot in the Tournament.
I don't know what I should think about this... and Naniwa played quite disappointing,
not the mechanics but in fact that he was using every single game in his PvPs the
2 Gate Blink aggression. Of course it worked out very well but it was a bit boring to watch
in my opinion.


i play to win not for your entertainment


Well unfortunately if you don't entertain us this thing called e-sports would simply die


Probe rushing isn't pure entertainment? :p


I dunno what you're talking about that was totally a playing to win strategy.
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
ForlornHope
Profile Joined June 2011
Vietnam111 Posts
January 20 2012 02:00 GMT
#2792
REMATCH FOR NIGHTEND AND ZENIO http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6/kiev/news/182718/
Mass Marine
ICarrotU
Profile Joined February 2011
United States254 Posts
January 20 2012 02:00 GMT
#2793
On January 20 2012 06:28 Naniwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 06:25 aidosae wrote:
I'm actually quite disappointed after that day:
First of all there were many problems with the games, therefore the drama
about Naniwa began. Just don't know why Naniwa can play the games versus WhiteRa
and Titan after forfeiting his spot in the Tournament.
I don't know what I should think about this... and Naniwa played quite disappointing,
not the mechanics but in fact that he was using every single game in his PvPs the
2 Gate Blink aggression. Of course it worked out very well but it was a bit boring to watch
in my opinion.


i play to win not for your entertainment


Amen to that.
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1236 Posts
January 20 2012 02:57 GMT
#2794
On January 20 2012 11:00 ForlornHope wrote:
REMATCH FOR NIGHTEND AND ZENIO http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6/kiev/news/182718/

Wow, gl to Zenio.
Mutation complete.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
January 20 2012 03:36 GMT
#2795
I'm pretty surprised by the rematch. I can't remember the last time a full game was played out and then the rematch was given out after the fact, especially when there was a pause midgame and a chance to ask for something to be done then.

That said I do remember this from an IEM not so long ago:


Why not do the same here? Sure, it'd be a lot of work to set it up with remaining resources, exact army composition, and even unit health, but is there really not 2 free computers for refs to do it while group C is being run? The replay should be around for people to look at it.

Was it even considered to have a regame from right before the major fight and lag spike?
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
box-killa
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia13 Posts
January 20 2012 03:42 GMT
#2796
Any chance on vod's or replays? I'll assume they will be up later.

if not can someone link them?
Thou shalt not pass
Frogsox
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia274 Posts
January 20 2012 04:38 GMT
#2797
On January 20 2012 06:28 Naniwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 06:25 aidosae wrote:
I'm actually quite disappointed after that day:
First of all there were many problems with the games, therefore the drama
about Naniwa began. Just don't know why Naniwa can play the games versus WhiteRa
and Titan after forfeiting his spot in the Tournament.
I don't know what I should think about this... and Naniwa played quite disappointing,
not the mechanics but in fact that he was using every single game in his PvPs the
2 Gate Blink aggression. Of course it worked out very well but it was a bit boring to watch
in my opinion.


i play to win not for your entertainment


Pretty much all you need to say. Also, seeing someone use a 2 gate build to destroy his opponents higher gate build is a thing of beauty. The precision control and timing is absolutely excellent. Considering PvP has always been somewhat of a monobuild battle I don't understand what aidosae is complaining about.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
January 20 2012 05:52 GMT
#2798
On January 20 2012 06:28 Naniwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 06:25 aidosae wrote:
I'm actually quite disappointed after that day:
First of all there were many problems with the games, therefore the drama
about Naniwa began. Just don't know why Naniwa can play the games versus WhiteRa
and Titan after forfeiting his spot in the Tournament.
I don't know what I should think about this... and Naniwa played quite disappointing,
not the mechanics but in fact that he was using every single game in his PvPs the
2 Gate Blink aggression. Of course it worked out very well but it was a bit boring to watch
in my opinion.


i play to win not for your entertainment


Just remember that if you're not entertaining someone, you're not going to make any money.
ahbeez
Profile Joined February 2010
56 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 06:04:37
January 20 2012 06:03 GMT
#2799
On January 20 2012 09:09 scur2d2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 09:06 Flonomenalz wrote:
On January 20 2012 09:02 scur2d2 wrote:
On January 20 2012 08:55 Flonomenalz wrote:
On January 20 2012 08:47 scur2d2 wrote:
On January 20 2012 08:45 Flonomenalz wrote:
On January 20 2012 08:43 scur2d2 wrote:
On January 20 2012 06:28 Naniwa wrote:
On January 20 2012 06:25 aidosae wrote:
I'm actually quite disappointed after that day:
First of all there were many problems with the games, therefore the drama
about Naniwa began. Just don't know why Naniwa can play the games versus WhiteRa
and Titan after forfeiting his spot in the Tournament.
I don't know what I should think about this... and Naniwa played quite disappointing,
not the mechanics but in fact that he was using every single game in his PvPs the
2 Gate Blink aggression. Of course it worked out very well but it was a bit boring to watch
in my opinion.


i play to win not for your entertainment

'

ignorant post.

without "entertaining" us, you wouldnt have a job.

oh hey look

im going to respond to a pro belligerently

in the hopes that he F5's this thread as much as I am and responds to it

thus causing unnecessary drama!

kekeke


oh look, someone bit!



ah

get called out and pretend to be joking/trolling?

smart move! =)


I wouldnt say I am joking or trolling.
I feel that when players play to win that that is entertaining, however when there is nothing to win (refer to nani's GSL match), it is still their responsiblity to show good games. Why is there almost universal love for WhiteRa? Because he plays to win, but also to entertain. He realizes that the fans make the scene what it is, without the fans he would not have a job, without this being a job he would not be able to support himself as well as play a GAME for a living that he loves.
He needs to show a little humility at least in his interactions with fans on TL or other mediums.

YOU think he needs to show humility, his fans aren't complaining.

Neither are Idra fans.

Why are you bringing up his GSL match when he's already apologized for it and admitted it was wrong?

smh.


Apologizing for something does not erase the fact that it happened.

And YOU arent complaing, are you all his fans? -- Just taking the opposite side of what you just said... still committing the same logical fallacy that you did.






The fact that this whole arguement is based on him posting that he prioritizes winning in a competition is hilarious.

Just stop watching his matches and stream if it bothers you that much, you don't actually pay him any money directly, so stop giving him attention, when you sit here and argue about him you just end up giving him more attention.

edit: to the guy above me - yeah man hes not gonna make money..lol..trust me theres a lot of fans that are entertained by...you know...winning
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 06:19:25
January 20 2012 06:12 GMT
#2800
Naniwa showing whos boss again. Too bad blizzard are to caught up in counting their money to implement LAN into the game. Maybe this tournament would have been decent then.
On January 20 2012 10:34 LoNeLyTrOoPeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 06:28 Naniwa wrote:
On January 20 2012 06:25 aidosae wrote:
I'm actually quite disappointed after that day:
First of all there were many problems with the games, therefore the drama
about Naniwa began. Just don't know why Naniwa can play the games versus WhiteRa
and Titan after forfeiting his spot in the Tournament.
I don't know what I should think about this... and Naniwa played quite disappointing,
not the mechanics but in fact that he was using every single game in his PvPs the
2 Gate Blink aggression. Of course it worked out very well but it was a bit boring to watch
in my opinion.


i play to win not for your entertainment


Well unfortunately if you don't entertain us this thing called e-sports would simply die

He entertain me and many others so what you personally think is actually completly irrelevant.
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