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On January 17 2012 10:41 IMoperator wrote:
Koreans clowning the foreigners. I was starting to think the gap was getting pretty close with stephano, huk, thorzain and idra performing well in the second half of last year, but now it seems like foreigners are getting dominated harder than ever.
It's more like we're starting to see just how good the B-team tier of Korean players can be. When a bench-warmer on IM can defeat a GSL champion you know the internal skill gap is quite small.
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Meh, the year is still long, but now I don't know whether foreigners going to Korea is a good idea. Aside from HuK, seems like most foreigners do better when they train outside of Korea than in it. The practice environment is not paying off.
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On January 17 2012 10:39 Tachion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 10:37 Sabu113 wrote:
And the mass muta. x.x
Think Nani's philosophy of PvZ is spot on.
bleh. Match left a bad taste. what's his philosophy?
Forge FE 2base timing. It seems to be the most effective style.
Wonder if the days of double robo are over. The muta decision looked very robust so I would think in a decision tree *fast* double robo must be dead as a Toss should always be getting blink relatively quickly to account for a muta switch.
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On January 17 2012 10:46 Sabu113 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 10:39 Tachion wrote:On January 17 2012 10:37 Sabu113 wrote:
And the mass muta. x.x
Think Nani's philosophy of PvZ is spot on.
bleh. Match left a bad taste. what's his philosophy? Forge FE 2base timing. It seems to be the most effective style. Wonder if the days of double robo are over. The muta decision looked very robust so I would think in a decision tree *fast* double robo must be dead as a Toss should always be getting blink relatively quickly to account for a muta switch.
works ok for MC too ;o
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On January 17 2012 10:46 Sabu113 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 10:39 Tachion wrote:On January 17 2012 10:37 Sabu113 wrote:
And the mass muta. x.x
Think Nani's philosophy of PvZ is spot on.
bleh. Match left a bad taste. what's his philosophy? Forge FE 2base timing. It seems to be the most effective style. Wonder if the days of double robo are over. The muta decision looked very robust so I would think in a decision tree *fast* double robo must be dead as a Toss should always be getting blink relatively quickly to account for a muta switch.
So basically he's playing PvZ from January 2011? No wonder it's his weakest matchup. >_>
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Immortal VS hyrda.....
EDIT: WTF just happened
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On January 17 2012 10:52 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 10:46 Sabu113 wrote:On January 17 2012 10:39 Tachion wrote:On January 17 2012 10:37 Sabu113 wrote:
And the mass muta. x.x
Think Nani's philosophy of PvZ is spot on.
bleh. Match left a bad taste. what's his philosophy? Forge FE 2base timing. It seems to be the most effective style. Wonder if the days of double robo are over. The muta decision looked very robust so I would think in a decision tree *fast* double robo must be dead as a Toss should always be getting blink relatively quickly to account for a muta switch. So basically he's playing PvZ from January 2011? No wonder it's his weakest matchup. >_>
It killed Nestea, while Crazymoving's mutas murdered PvZ champion hero on taldarim. Still feel that 2base play to kill or neuter that third is the best option.
I will say PvZ's evolutions have been pretty interesting. Double stargate looking very popular today though.
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On January 17 2012 10:56 Sabu113 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 10:52 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 17 2012 10:46 Sabu113 wrote:On January 17 2012 10:39 Tachion wrote:On January 17 2012 10:37 Sabu113 wrote:
And the mass muta. x.x
Think Nani's philosophy of PvZ is spot on.
bleh. Match left a bad taste. what's his philosophy? Forge FE 2base timing. It seems to be the most effective style. Wonder if the days of double robo are over. The muta decision looked very robust so I would think in a decision tree *fast* double robo must be dead as a Toss should always be getting blink relatively quickly to account for a muta switch. So basically he's playing PvZ from January 2011? No wonder it's his weakest matchup. >_> It killed a slumping Nestea and got crushed by every competent Zerg since that time, while Crazymoving's mutas murdered PvZ champion hero (who happens to look kinda mediocre in Korea when he's not crushing scrubby foreigners) on taldarim. I will say PvZ's evolutions have been pretty interesting. Double stargate looking very popular today though.
FTFY
2 base timings to kill the third are not necessary. Korean Protosses have already shown us that.
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Great phoenix micro from Tassadar.
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To everyone asking why Korea is so dominant: imagine a culture where playing video games doesn't have the social stigma like it does in our societies. Kids can take starcraft in school like a regular sport! No wonder they're animals in competition. They're also the most highly-connected and technologically-obsessed culture on earth. I've been to Japan as well, and I'm pretty sure the Koreans are crazier about technology than they are.
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This tournament and the KSL deserve so much more recognition!
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On January 17 2012 11:03 lowercase wrote:
To everyone asking why Korea is so dominant: imagine a culture where playing video games doesn't have the social stigma like it does in our societies. Kids can take starcraft in school like a regular sport! No wonder they're animals in competition. They're also the most highly-connected and technologically-obsessed culture on earth. I've been to Japan as well, and I'm pretty sure the Koreans are crazier about technology than they are.
people look down upon videogames in korea and most of east asia. don't be delusional.
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On January 17 2012 11:21 GreyKnight wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 11:03 lowercase wrote:
To everyone asking why Korea is so dominant: imagine a culture where playing video games doesn't have the social stigma like it does in our societies. Kids can take starcraft in school like a regular sport! No wonder they're animals in competition. They're also the most highly-connected and technologically-obsessed culture on earth. I've been to Japan as well, and I'm pretty sure the Koreans are crazier about technology than they are. people look down upon videogames in korea and most of east asia. don't be delusional.
Yeah. Almost all the korean exchange students I've talked to like soccer and think starcraft is boring / for nerds.
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On January 17 2012 11:19 Sroobz wrote:
This tournament and the KSL deserve so much more recognition!
Glad you feel that way! I'm working hard to make it so, as are many of the tournament organizers 
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Wow, nice viewer count today! Grats to ESV, they deserve it!
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Someone inform Cezzane that Zerg can get a Hive...
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Cezanne still with the terribad control. sC looked a little shaky but thank GOD he's okay. The collapsed lung didn't eat into his performance as much as I feared.
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Some Zergs seem to hate infestors.... or hive :s
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EPT
